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Highguard Launch Showcase - January 26th (10am PT / 1pm ET / 6pm UK)
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Johnny Concrete
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Highguard |OT| The higher they guard, the farther they fail
thief183
Member
I don't understand the hateboner for this game, if it was for neogaf there would be only 1 type of game, a corridor cinematic experience using a generic big ass woman.
We got a shooter from the ppl that made some of the best one around but we need to hate on it cause it took the last spot in a stupid award show.
We got a shooter from the ppl that made some of the best one around but we need to hate on it cause it took the last spot in a stupid award show.
Luipadre
Member
Haters are gonna have a rude awekening with this and marathon
clarky
Gold Member
Amazing how out of touch a supposed enthusiast videogame forum is at times.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Even if it does fail, it won't be nearly as bad as the Concord situation. Concord was suppose to be a big 1st party Sony release in a gen where we have a major drought of their titles. I think that's what added weight to the failure. It was the market completely rejecting what was suppose to be a high profile game from a publisher that typically don't miss with their in-house studios.
Faltherion
Member
I can't tell if you are agreeing with him or the opposite lol
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Highguard OT | it's over Blizzard, Geoff has the highguard
clarky
Gold Member
I see what you mean but I'm obviously agreeing with him.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
PectacularOz
Member
Maybe because its 10 years past the already over-loaded genres prime?
Its entirely uninteresting.
If you asked a group of 5 year old to design a game, this would be the result.
It might turn out entirely competent but you can't deny thay they willingly made a game that NOBODY was asking for. They're deliberately chasing (OLD) trends to try and steal someone elses marketshare INSTEAD of just making a game people WANT.
If you JUST made Titanfall 3, and not release it to compete with Battlefield/Cod - you'd make money! But they'd rather a tiny chance at MORE money (spoiler, they wont get it)
Rant over.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
We must protect Mr Dring at all cost.
icecold1983
Member
It isn't a coinkydink that they only invited a bunch of no name streamers to play the game.
icecold1983
Member
He isnt entirely wrong. The overwhelming majority of the community for hero shooters are sub 50 IQ retards incapable of even discerning what is and isnt good gameplay. They can enjoy pretty skins though.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Faltherion
Member
I hope it does not actually. Gameplay is think could be fun I just wish it had better character designs.
LegendOfKage
Member
No name streamers? They invited a bunch of Apex Legends content creators, which easily makes the most sense for their studio and who would be interested in their game.
icecold1983
Member
How many hours of hero shooters have you played?
icecold1983
Member
Which big ones?
near
Gold Member
It's weird how this argument is frequently used with hero shooters. Not remotely as saturated as RPGs yet this is the rhetoric when it comes to hero shooters. A load of nonsense. I wonder why?
icecold1983
Member
Did you even attempt any critical thinking before posting this? People play RPGs and move on. Live service games require a ton of permanence.
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
27 hours away!!!
PectacularOz
Member
Because you're comparing an antire genre to sub-genre.
The Genre - RPGs (Witcher 3 vs Fallout vs Final Fantasy) differ far, far more than hero shooters. Which is why it can be broken down to sub-genres - (western rpg, eastern, turn based, narrative, action etc.)
Shooters can be broken down too - and one sub-genre is Hero Shooter. Its way oversaturated as a SUB genre. I'd love more shooters - Give me a new QUAKE, instead of another uninspired hero shooter.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
Concord had like the most polished gameplay on Earth . . .
near
Gold Member
That's exactly why this saturation argument doesn't hold. Live service competition isn't unique to hero shooters, it's dominant across genres. Treating hero shooters as uniquely zero sum is more about how players feel than actual market saturation.
LegendOfKage
Member
Macro, TenZ, Lululuvely, Staycation, etc.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Polished doesn't mean good.
icecold1983
Member
It does hold. People will bounce from RPG to RPG as they complete them. RPG fans will play many over the span of a year. People tend to pick their hero shooter and stay with it.
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
It's as good as any other hero shooter as far as I can tell.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Even if that were true, which I don't believe it was, they were selling it for $40 when all of it's peers were free.
You can only charge 40 if you're significantly better than the free offerings.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
and yet there's far far far FAR more of these types of games than what you have described, its almost like there's too many. I can see this appealing to the 3 tours in Iraq ex military vet that got big into wolves and tattoo's when they left the service though.
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near
Gold Member
So? You can't claim hero shooters are oversaturated and then give every other genre a pass just because they don't share the same business model. At that point you're not describing the market as it is, you're arguing for an arbitrary cap. Yes, it's a competitive space and only a few can really coexist, but that's not the same thing as saturation.
clarky
Gold Member
I hope its successful so i can see you eat your own shit.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
The hate hero shooters get on the internet is absolutely wild to see.
Readable asymmetry in PvP is just good design. It's like hating on Chess because the Rook has a different moveset than the Bishop.
Readable asymmetry in PvP is just good design. It's like hating on Chess because the Rook has a different moveset than the Bishop.
SmokSmog
Member
He can't say much because of NDA, but comparing it to Apex Legends season 0 and saying Titanfall fans would enjoy it is honestly a great sign.
Dynasty8
Member
It's just Internet outrage and hate culture. It's become more and more amplified in recent years and has become a total echo chamber.
Most gamers don't ever come across all the hate and just play games if something looks cool or if their friends are playing it. They don't live on social media... That's why CoD games are always top sellers. You'd think based on the online negativity and discourse that the game will fail. It never does.
