ResetEraVetVIP
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One of the best looking games this whole generation.Bunch of screenshots of Fable have been uploaded to Steam, far too much post-process (thankfully I'm playing on PC) but the game is gorgeous in my opinion:
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ResetEraVetVIP
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LOL yep as usual.
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FalconPunch
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What Forza Horizon 6 looks like is exactly like Forza Horizon 5. From art direction to rendering, there's minimal difference. Based on the actual gameplay in the trailer, it looks nothing like this hyper real artstyle.What we wanted Forza horizon 6 to look like:
What it looks like:
Buggy Loop
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Yup. Only GTA 6 will probably make jaws drop on the floor after this
Mhmmm 2077
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I think The Witcher 4 will too, but that might come out in 2028, sadly.
MidGenRefresh
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What we wanted Forza horizon 6 to look like:
What it looks like:
The bottom picture looks way more appealing to me. I've never been a fan of that blurred early-2000s pre-rendered cinematic vaseline look with excessive post-processing.
Make it 29-30.
Pharaoh 117
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I kinda knew Square would took the easy route and keep the third chapter in UE4 but even then it sucks. I will not support this shit with my money.
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My blind guess is 2029 and next-gen.
Cumulus
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No chance a 3rd party game with that kind of budget will be next gen only around that time. That would be economic suicide.
MidGenRefresh
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I expect another Cyberpunk 2077 type situation, though not as extreme. A clearly next gen game barely running on last gen hardware. Hopefully, they've learned their lesson.
Bojji
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They already shown it running 60fps on PS5. And it's running on PS5 generation engine - UE5.
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Sorry, I've been following game industry for too long to believe in engine tech demos.
Bojji
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Sure, I don't deny that. But they have different strategy this time, for TW2, 3 and C2077 they created their games for PC hardware and then ported to consoles. Now they design TW4 around PS5 and will upgrade it on PC (and PS6 etc.).
rsouzadk
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First Epic's "Uncanny Valley" demo, now CDPR's "The Witcher 4" PS5 video — it's all the same marketing bullshit. No final game has ever looked as good as these tech demos, and after the Cyberpunk 2077 disaster, I don't trust a fucking word from CDPR.
kevboard
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they also made clear that this was not in fact The Witcher 4. it was a tech demo showcasing what they are targeting.
but even so, it ran at an extremely low internal resolution and looked fuzzy as hell in motion.
so being 60fps isn't a huge achievement when you render sub-1080p from the looks of it.
Bojji
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Epic demo was 1440p 30fps. I would say Hellblade 2 represents quality like that.
TW4 demo was 800p 60fps, I don't think that it has shown anything impossible to render by this console. And remember that between UE5 1.0 (VotA tech demo) and 5.6 (TW4 tech demo) engine got many big performance upgrades.
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rsouzadk
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Hellblade 2 looks like that demo, but it doesn't come close to matching what was shown.
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Bojji
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What that means?
When it comes to visuals UE5 absolutely delivered on all promises, performance was the biggest problem so far.
Also nextgen then.
AeonGaidenRaiden
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I agree with that but overall Im a lil underwhelmed, though this was a teaser and not a full trailer as far as I understood. Is it just me or did it feel pretty tame the way they showed off Japan? Sure nice vistas and all but I thought they would play more into the whole neon lights, kawaii mascots, some maid cafe staff...I donno, like a bit more bombastic lol. With FH5 they really went all out. I do like that they added the life-size Gundam in the end considerign there is one in Tokyo and Yokohama.
March Climber
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It's less about the 'vaseline look' nor is it about the 'rain effects' like someone else mentioned above. It's more about the artstyle itself. It's missing a hint of grit and liveliness.
Like this:
Or even Forza Horizon 1, their own game:
Night racing (especially in Tokyo) should just feel a bit more lively in a video game, that's all. There's barely even any neon lights under the cars. That's what me and
SlimySnake
are pointing out.
AeonGaidenRaiden
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March Climber
Exactly. I mean the trailer and song looked so pedestrian, as if I was watching a Gran Turismo trailer. They should of made it more hype and wild, I mean its freakin Japan and FH is anything but a serious sim racer. They needed a better song for it too like for the Wangan Midnight games:
Msamy
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One have cost of the 2 billion dollars using next gen rage engine and other have cost of 800 million dollars alongside using ue5, they clearly will have the best visuals this gen and early next gen
Xtib81
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That $800M budget seems way overblown.
CowboyLou
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It's less about the 'vaseline look' nor is it about the 'rain effects' like someone else mentioned above. It's more about the artstyle itself. It's missing a hint of grit and liveliness.
Like this:
Or even Forza Horizon 1, their own game:
Night racing (especially in Tokyo) should just feel a bit more lively in a video game, that's all. There's barely even any neon lights under the cars. That's what me and
Yeah, I was joking before but I agree. FH5 and now this are super sterile looking.
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Cumulus
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the word you are looking for is crossgen.
Let´s hope CDPR doesn`t forget to include goodies for high end PCs with their new console centric approach.
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Mhmmm 2077
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I feel like maybe 20% of both of these budgets will be put into actual making of the game and the rest is marketing, sadly.
Cumulus
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Am I crazy or does this Crimson Desert material not look good at all? Sure there is scale, but the lighting is at best inconsistent often times plain flat, the pop in for lod, shadows and even NPCs is very visible and the iceskating/rubberbanding in the combat animations is terrible.....
wasn`t this supposed to be a technological showcase at some point or is my memory playing tricks on me here?
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archangelmorph
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Bring it to PS5 and I'd love to.
Luipadre
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1.0 will come to consoles, hopefully this year
Gonzito
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Luipadre
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Its a special one. I always go back and try the new updates, but only for an hour or 2 max. I need to force myself to stop playing everytime, because im saving the full experience for 1.0
BlownUpRich
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They showed it around this console generation's launch, it looked unbelievable back then, now it looks great still, but you can tell it isn't as showstopper as before, even though the final build looks to have better graphics than the reveal trailer. It's just newer games got a lot better looking throughout this gen so far. Also 99% of games look rather outdated without Path Tracing like we see with High-end PC games.
PeteBull
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That epic demo looked doable-ish in its first sequences, but endsequence with fast travel defo wasnt done on ps5, hell we had matrix demo run well below 1080p with dips under 30, yet this particular epic demo could hold stable 1440p30 durning that fastmovement sequence on base ps5?
Look at it urself:
Back then 5,5 years ago we could be deceived it was real gameplay on base ps5, now we are older/smarter and saw how games look on it- definitely not possible to be 1440p30 on base ps5, it has cgi quality
For comparision matrix demo:
It doesnt hold stable 30 at all despite being below 1080p in native res, there is no way ending sequence of eu5 ps5 demo did hold stable 1440p30 on actual base ps5, it did coz it either was pre-rendered or was running on much more powerful hardware, simple as that
Witcher4 techdemo according to the cdpr devs runs 800p60 on base ps5 but we can clearly see game is very blurry(still looks next gen af, and ps6/highend pc will bump the res/iq anyways so 0 worries here) and definitely looks above anything we saw in first ue5 ps5 techdemo, hell it looks more impressive by matrix demo if we count in that 60fps, like many stated only gta6 trailers look better.
Here same ue5 demo, running on pc rtx 3090(which is roughly 2x stronger from base ps) in 1440p and only manages 40-50fps durning a walk with barely anything happening:
Durning bossfight it has dips under 40, and again even that bossfight is 5x less impressive from ending sequence of ue5 ps5 techdemo we saw back in may 2020
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Exactly. I mean the trailer and song looked so pedestrian, as if I was watching a Gran Turismo trailer. They should of made it more hype and wild, I mean its freakin Japan and FH is anything but a serious sim racer. They needed a better song for it too like for the Wangan Midnight games:
It's less about the 'vaseline look' nor is it about the 'rain effects' like someone else mentioned above. It's more about the artstyle itself. It's missing a hint of grit and liveliness.
Like this:
Or even Forza Horizon 1, their own game:
Night racing (especially in Tokyo) should just feel a bit more lively in a video game, that's all. There's barely even any neon lights under the cars. That's what me and
You know what's funny? SmashJT, a YouTube grifter posted a screenshot of fable devs showing a vast majorly of them being women. Turns out the photo was not accurate and the studio is mostly men but i legit laughed at how this guy looked at these two games and thought oh let me make fun of the fable team which has a gorgeous art style, beautiful environments and a near cg look and feel.
Another funny thing is that these grifters spent decades shitting on women for doing art majors instead of computer science and now they are upset that they are being offered jobs in the gaming industry which is literally creating art from scratch. As games get bigger, more and more artists are needed while the programming jobs remain mostly the same.
If that picture was accurate then id be like great, hire more women in the forza team too. Its a very sterile looking world that looks like it was created by guys with programming degrees instead of real artists.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Looks alright to me. Way too heavy on the chromatic aberration and other visual effects though, which muddies the image. Also lets be honest, these consoles are underpowered and the best games are really only going to push the bar forward on the PC side of things at this point. I won't judge the game until I see it maxed out on PC.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That epic demo looked doable-ish in its first sequences, but endsequence with fast travel defo wasnt done on ps5, hell we had matrix demo run well below 1080p with dips under 30, yet this particular epic demo could hold stable 1440p30 durning that fastmovement sequence on base ps5?
Look at it urself:
Back then 5,5 years ago we could be deceived it was real gameplay on base ps5, now we are older/smarter and saw how games look on it- definitely not possible to be 1440p30 on base ps5, it has cgi quality
For comparision matrix demo:
It doesnt hold stable 30 at all despite being below 1080p in native res, there is no way ending sequence of eu5 ps5 demo did hold stable 1440p30 on actual base ps5, it did coz it either was pre-rendered or was running on much more powerful hardware, simple as that
Witcher4 techdemo according to the cdpr devs runs 800p60 on base ps5 but we can clearly see game is very blurry(still looks next gen af, and ps6/highend pc will bump the res/iq anyways so 0 worries here) and definitely looks above anything we saw in first ue5 ps5 techdemo, hell it looks more impressive by matrix demo if we count in that 60fps, like many stated only gta6 trailers look better.
Here same ue5 demo, running on pc rtx 3090(which is roughly 2x stronger from base ps) in 1440p and only manages 40-50fps durning a walk with barely anything happening:
Durning bossfight it has dips under 40, and again even that bossfight is 5x less impressive from ending sequence of ue5 ps5 techdemo we saw back in may 2020
The end of the epic demo was prerendered. Epic was open about it.
But it was using software lumen compared to matrix which was using hardware lumen utilizing the hardware rt cores on consoles. They had revealed the 1440p software lumen, and 1080p hardware like targets several months before the Matrix demo came out.
The reason why the Matrix demo drops before 30 is due to cpu bottlenecks which were later resolved in 5.4. They have also been regularly upgrading hardware lumen performance with each ue5 version and by 5.6 they have now managed to get very close to 1440p 30 fps target of the original software lumen demo.
Bojji
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That epic demo looked doable-ish in its first sequences, but endsequence with fast travel defo wasnt done on ps5, hell we had matrix demo run well below 1080p with dips under 30, yet this particular epic demo could hold stable 1440p30 durning that fastmovement sequence on base ps5?
Look at it urself:
Back then 5,5 years ago we could be deceived it was real gameplay on base ps5, now we are older/smarter and saw how games look on it- definitely not possible to be 1440p30 on base ps5, it has cgi quality
For comparision matrix demo:
It doesnt hold stable 30 at all despite being below 1080p in native res, there is no way ending sequence of eu5 ps5 demo did hold stable 1440p30 on actual base ps5, it did coz it either was pre-rendered or was running on much more powerful hardware, simple as that
Witcher4 techdemo according to the cdpr devs runs 800p60 on base ps5 but we can clearly see game is very blurry(still looks next gen af, and ps6/highend pc will bump the res/iq anyways so 0 worries here) and definitely looks above anything we saw in first ue5 ps5 techdemo, hell it looks more impressive by matrix demo if we count in that 60fps, like many stated only gta6 trailers look better.
Here same ue5 demo, running on pc rtx 3090(which is roughly 2x stronger from base ps) in 1440p and only manages 40-50fps durning a walk with barely anything happening:
Durning bossfight it has dips under 40, and again even that bossfight is 5x less impressive from ending sequence of ue5 ps5 techdemo we saw back in may 2020
You can see lumen problems and loading distance in that PS5 demo:
Wukong has shown flying in UE5:
Of course I'm not sure original tech demo was running real time on PS5 (confirmed by
SlimySnake
that it's not), but the fact is that performance difference between UE5.0 and UE5.7 is big. Difference in stalker 2 between original release and 5.4 engine version is quite something in CPU bottlenecked areas.
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Huh?
Where?
GymWolf
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Luipadre
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I dont remember. Im playing on my other monitor nowadays without HDR. Still looks stunning
GymWolf
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Always said that this game lack micro-details.
This is not a game you play for texture fidelity, that's for sure.
They said that the game run at 4k60 on mid-gpus, the world is super big, a lot of destruction and those performances? They had to cut corners somewhere...
I mean unless yt compression is not pulling another one...
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GymWolf
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IT looks better in my kinda shitty monitor in sdr than my top of the line tv in hdr so there is something wrong with the settings, ori is stunning in hdr on the same tv...I dont remember. Im playing on my other monitor nowadays without HDR. Still looks stunning
Have you tried dlss 4.5 and profile M on this one?
I have no idea why people say that profile M is just for perf mode because the other 2 are too sharp, i tried quality mode in like 3-4 games and none of them was over-sharpened, if anything the difference between perf and quality is just way way lower compared to before so there is almost no reason to use quality.
Does the pc community keep their fucking monitors with the sharpening slider to 200% or something?
Or oled tv just have a far softer image compared to a pc monitor?
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PeteBull
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Never saw any info of epic admitting it being prerendered, but saw plenty gamers claiming its realtime and pretty sure epic claimed its real time too, hell i thought it was realtime back in mid 2020 before ps5 launch too, but now its obviously cgi/bullshot trailer/prerendered/false advertising.
Look at those fuckers lie tru their teeth straight to our faces:
Hell in video description u got clearly written:
Turns out most impressive part of the demo was cgi aka bullshot
Its like woman claiming she has only 7bodycount, then u find out that number is for 2026 only and resets every year(new year new me bs- im spiritual now- then what happened to last 10 years u were physically fucking all other dudes tho? Their penises were very real and not ghosts
).Really cant wait for gta6 here to actually experience those crazy graphics(even if its 30fps with dips at below 1080p native res ai upscaled to something more reasonable), altho not even sure whats gonna come out sooner, gta6 or witcher4(logically gta6 is likely getting delayed to 2027 coz fuck devs unions, witcher4 no clue here, could be 2027, could be even 2030 ).
Toots
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Its like woman claiming she has only 7bodycount, then u find out that number is for 2026 only and resets every year(new year new me bs- im spiritual now- then what happened to last 10 years u were physically fucking all other dudes tho? Their penises were very real and not ghosts
This sound too accurate to be coincidental. Did you meet someone at a 2026 NYE party in Miami like Topuria ?
mrMUR_96
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New volumetric effects? When was that added? I was super impressed with mafia when I played it. Not sure what you're not seeing with the character models, they look great imo.Here are couple of gifs showing the different lighting conditions that show up late in the game in Mafia. yes, golden hour lighting looks great in every game, but i really like the new volumetric effects. Also, this is perhaps the first UE5 open world game with a dense forest. And it looks really good. Shame how they only briefly take you for a short mission.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I just mean the fog and god rays around the trees. During the mid day lighting that was prevalent through out the first half of the game, those effects weren't there leading to a very sterile look.
Some character models look great. Others don't. Watch the very first trailer. I expected the character models to look like that on ue5.