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[Chittagong]

Too late Microsoft!!! I made my own!
Today, after a lot of fucking around forcing Xbox Full Screen experience , auto log on, Steam access and GPU tweaks I just did what Microsoft clearly wants us to do and just did it my damn self.

My 5800 x3D w/ a 5070TI is now my next gen console.

Boots directly into full screen Xbox and plays the 360 startup sound from 2005. Runs Steam big picture directly from that. Microsoft has integrated Spotify and other functionality into full screen as well.

Out of interest, how does a setup like this compare to a PS5 Pro?

 

[Sohurmk833]

I think a 2027 release of a high end Magnus is the best play Xbox has, and a PS6 delay would give Xbox a real niche in the market. As PS6 looks (thankfully) delayed, say to 2028-2029, a meaningful bump over PS5 Pro could make Magnus the go to for the more hardcore niche.

A meaningful bump over pro would make this thing 2000 bucks.

 

[Shogmaster]

Going by leaks they aren't aiming for the same market anymore. Xbox Magnus will be a step above regular consoles. It's for an enthusiast group more interested in PC gaming who think even Pro variants are too weak but aren't interested in building their own living room PC. Expect a $1500 price point or higher. It'll effectively go head to head with Steam Machine in a new PC-in-a-console-shell segment targeting the living room, but the Xbox is a big step above that one.

Steam Machine would better have at least $800 gap with this thing by then. This thing will make Steam Machine performance look like Steam Deck's...

 

[yurinka]

I think you were drunk and it will an Asus PC shaped as a home console and will be announced in the first half of 2027 and -like PS6- will be released November 2027.

I think this and PS6 will feature different RDNA 5 + Zen 6 custom APUs, but PS6 would have a better price (still way above the PS5 release price) because of signing >100M units and having huge software sales to compensate selling at a loss.

I think its total lifetime sales including low end Xbox next gen 'consoles' (consolized PCs, let's say MS has a 'Series X' minimum specs and 'Series S' specs to the 3rd party manufactures who want to make PCs that can get the Xbox sticker) will end being somewhere between Steamdeck and OG Xbox levels. Maybe around WiiU levels.

And this is assuming MS doesn't completely cancel their hardware plans including to license the Xbox brand to third party manufacturers as did wit Asus Rog Ally or Meta Quest.

 

[Shogmaster]

A meaningful bump over pro would make this thing 2000 bucks.

Fun facts: Steam Machine's CPU and GPU die size combined (382mm²) is bigger than PS5 Pros (280mm²). Magnus die size (408mm²) is only 45% bigger than PS5 Pro's, and only 13% bigger than Series X die size (360mm²).

What's this all mean? No fucking idea.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

For all intents and purposes, they can reveal it tomorrow just to create hype, expectations, and make the illusion that "something will definitively" be coming. But everything will be empty words... A paper lunch doesn't count

 

[Fess]

Steam Machine would better have at least $800 gap with this thing by then. This thing will make Steam Machine performance look like Steam Deck's...

True. But things don't always make sense, I expect a $900 launch price for Steam Machine, early 2026, Steam Controller included.
It'll sting but it'll play games from all systems either through regular Steam releases or emulators, so you get more for your money than any traditional console.

 

[AGRacing]

Out of interest, how does a setup like this compare to a PS5 Pro?

I was curious and used Fortnite and Robocop because I own on both platforms and it's UE5.

I use DLSS override to use up to date versions of their upscaler.

Higher or equivalent graphics settings than Pro, higher rendering resolution than Pro, MUCH higher perceived resolution thanks to DLSS (pin sharp), no upscaling noise and double the frame rate without trouble.

 

[Shogmaster]

True. But things don't always make sense, I expect a $900 launch price for Steam Machine, early 2026, Steam Controller included.
It'll sting but it'll play games from all systems either through regular Steam releases or emulators, so you get more for your money than any traditional console.

Valve already said controller is not coming with the box, no?

 

[Zacfoldor]

Right move for them?

Is that happening?

I may be actually drunk but fuck it I'm with this man.

 

[Shogmaster]

Out of interest, how does a setup like this compare to a PS5 Pro?

According to Tech Powerup, RTX 5070Ti is about 2.7x performance of PS5's GPU portion just on raster performance. Add to that probably 3x RT performance and its just a massacre. Thank goodness you get some performance clawed back with console games being tailored coded for them.

 

[Baemono]

I was about to buy an Xbox, I'll wait then

 

[Shogmaster]

I was about to buy an Xbox, I'll wait then

Don't be payin' $800 for 2020 tech in 2026 omg

 

[J Required]

Given Sony just announced they're extending the PS5 generation

When did Sony announce it?

 

[Team Andromeda]

I was hoping for the hardware to launch this year, but that dream is gone.

Can't wait to see what Xbox has planned in November. I'll expect it will drop the Halo remake in that month, maybe along with the new Gears and maybe some more OG Xbox or 360 games added to the BC program. Expect Xbox will show off the part of the motherboard of the new console in the summer showcase. I also expect Xbox to do a little PR and some Black Friday deals to sell a few Series consoles.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Too late Microsoft!!! I made my own!
Today, after a lot of fucking around forcing Xbox Full Screen experience , auto log on, Steam access and GPU tweaks I just did what Microsoft clearly wants us to do and just did it my damn self.

My 5800 x3D w/ a 5070TI is now my next gen console.

Boots directly into full screen Xbox and plays the 360 startup sound from 2005. Runs Steam big picture directly from that. Microsoft has integrated Spotify and other functionality into full screen as well.

Nice setup, BTW I expected Lions to have done much better this season . I bet those bloody Patriots will win the Super Bowl now

 

[Insanemaelstrom]

Personally I can see that. Here are my predictions:

1. MS will announce the next Xbox for next year just a few weeks around gta6 release, drumming up hype.

2. Magnus will be extremely focused on AI( like tvtvtv was for xbox one).

3. There will be astro turfing about consumer friendly Xbox is for not delaying next gen and how it is an open system( also that Sony and nintendo should follow suit and that ms is just ahead of the curve).

4. Sony will adopt a wait and see approach and see how magnus performs. It will give them an idea about the market situation and will give a clearer picture of when to launch the ps5.

5. This will be an excellent year for games, especially in the later half.

 

[Darsxx82]

Microsoft isn't making an announcement 9 or so months before launch.

MS was making an annuouncement 12 or so months before launch with XBO X (Project Scorpio) and with XSX (Project Scarlett)....

This year they could very well announce "Project Magnus" and offer a glimpse into its specs and the type of product it aims to be (which all indications suggest will be a hardcore niche product). In other words, if they've done it before, the current situation and prospects could be considered even more opportune.

PS. In another thread on the same topic, I already mentioned that I think the Xbox 25th anniversary celebration would feel "orphaned" if it weren't accompanied by the announcement of new hardware, even though the lineup of first-party games is strong with great classic IPs.

 

[Radical_3d]

It wouldn't be the first time that Xbox predates the market for a whole year so I'm going to say: announced this spring-summer, released to coincide with the 25th anniversary!!

BAM! PS5 Pro Fable is no longer the best version by a mile.

 

[PeteBull]

Fun facts: Steam Machine's CPU and GPU die size combined (382mm²) is bigger than PS5 Pros (280mm²). Magnus die size (408mm²) is only 45% bigger than PS5 Pro's, and only 13% bigger than Series X die size (360mm²).

What's this all mean? No fucking idea.

It simply means steam machine is not only weak(below base ps5 lvls) but on top its not custom tech, they use laptop parts to reduce any R&D cost
Gabe just bought his 500m usd yacht in november to pick up mad bitches, cant waste cash on some useless stuff like making steam machine more advanced

Thread 'Big Gabe takes delivery of his 500M superyacht. 363 ft long. 15 gaming PCs. Full race simulator setups.'

Nov 15, 2025

Valve co-founder and games industry man of mystery Gabe Newell put consoles on notice Wednesday, and has now ended the week by taking delivery of his new custom-designed superyacht, the Leviathan. The vessel was built by Oceanco, a firm that's done such a good job that Newell just decided to up and buy it outright in August: apparently because he "respects the sea."

The news comes via Boat International, "the global authority on superyachting," which has Oceanco CEO Marcel Onkenhout waxing lyrical about the glories of the Gabenboat. Leviathan is 111 meters long and...

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[Shogmaster]

It simply means steam machine is not only weak(below base ps5 lvls) but on top its not custom tech, they use laptop parts to reduce any R&D cost
Gabe just bought his 500m usd yacht in november to pick up mad bitches, cant waste cash on some useless stuff like making steam machine more advanced

Thread 'Big Gabe takes delivery of his 500M superyacht. 363 ft long. 15 gaming PCs. Full race simulator setups.'

Nov 15, 2025

Valve co-founder and games industry man of mystery Gabe Newell put consoles on notice Wednesday, and has now ended the week by taking delivery of his new custom-designed superyacht, the Leviathan. The vessel was built by Oceanco, a firm that's done such a good job that Newell just decided to up and buy it outright in August: apparently because he "respects the sea."

The news comes via Boat International, "the global authority on superyachting," which has Oceanco CEO Marcel Onkenhout waxing lyrical about the glories of the Gabenboat. Leviathan is 111 meters long and...

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Yachts ain't cheap brah.

 

[ZehDon]

When did Sony announce it?

Sorry, not quite an annoucement, I mispoke. There's a thread on their reporting where this detail was surfaced by an analyst.

Ummm.... MS is flush with cash. You are thinking of Open AI. MS aint Open AI brah.

Xbox has been reigned in and must deliver profits; they couldn't even afford a simple end of year wrap up. This marching order stands for every department. Liquid or not, Microsoft is leveraging the profitability of its departments against its all-in on AI. The end result: Microsoft isn't spending.

 

[Shogmaster]

Sorry, not quite an annoucement, I mispoke. There's a thread on their reporting where this detail was surfaced by an analyst.

Xbox has been reigned in and must deliver profits; they couldn't even afford a simple end of year wrap up. This marching order stands for every department. Liquid or not, Microsoft is leveraging the profitability of its departments against its all-in on AI. The end result: Microsoft isn't spending.

Magnus is minimal investment and at the price they will charge, it will meet the minimum margin dictated.

Magnus is just RDNA 5 AT2 chiplet + Zen 6 mobile chiplet. AT2 chiplet is already designed and planned for use in RX10070 XT. Only custom part is the simple Zen 6 chiplet (3x full Z6 + 8x Z6c). This is total opposite of Orion APU in PS6, which is a total custom monolithic die. That's a super expensive investment for Dony. MS is spending tiny fraction of that to get AMD to develope Magnus.

 

[Fess]

Valve already said controller is not coming with the box, no?

Have they said that?? That seems incredibly dumb tbh.

 

[Shogmaster]

Have they said that?? That seems incredibly dumb tbh.

IIRC it was one of those interviews with the two Valve engineers. And the damn controller looks $100 at the very minimum, sooooo....

 

[KyoZz]

It has nothing to do with it being terrible for the industry or not.

???

It WOULD be terrible, just like if Sony was leaving the console market. The more competition the better and I'm surprised that this is so difficult to understand.

Xbox exiting the console and hardware market is literally due dilligence by Microsoft execs to its shareholders.

Who gives a shit about them? I'm speaking from the consumer's POV, I don't have time to cry over these multimillionaires lol.

 

[Bark]

When did Sony announce it?

No, no, let them believe that analysts work for Sony. It makes this more funny

 

[Negotiator101]

The road to 8 million lifetime sales starts in November!

So the Series consoles have sold close to 40m but you come in with this clown post, circus not touring at the moment?

 

[bender]

So the Series consoles have sold close to 40m but you come in with this clown post, circus not touring at the moment?

Your mom sprained her ankle so we've had to postpone the tour for a bit.

 

[mayham2199]

So the Series consoles have sold close to 40m but you come in with this clown post, circus not touring at the moment?

With the price predicted to be near $1200 and that was before the RAM price hike I don't think @10-15 million is crazy. Especially with people having no real reason to upgrade this gen.

 

[Fess]

IIRC it was one of those interviews with the two Valve engineers. And the damn controller looks $100 at the very minimum, sooooo....

That'll bite them in the ass. Odd strategy.
Or are they banking on everybody coming from the console side and having a spare Xbox/PS/NSWPro controller?

 

[Shogmaster]

Personally I can see that. Here are my predictions:

1. MS will announce the next Xbox for next year just a few weeks around gta6 release, drumming up hype.

2. Magnus will be extremely focused on AI( like tvtvtv was for xbox one).

3. There will be astro turfing about consumer friendly Xbox is for not delaying next gen and how it is an open system( also that Sony and nintendo should follow suit and that ms is just ahead of the curve).

4. Sony will adopt a wait and see approach and see how magnus performs. It will give them an idea about the market situation and will give a clearer picture of when to launch the ps5.

5. This will be an excellent year for games, especially in the later half.

Fair points, but 2, 3 and 4 are problematic.

2 - Magnus will launch around same time as Madusa Halo, which will address far more VRAM with decent amount of RDNA 5 CUs (48). Magnus will at most have 48GB of RAM. Madusa Halo could have up to 192GB.

3 - Sony and Nintendo will never EVER allow open systems. They dont sell OS. They will kill their platforms going "open".

4 - PS6 will launch when costs line up. PS6 is designed to be very cost sensitive for mass market price point. That's only thing delaying PS6.

BTW, while PS6 should delay, PS6 handheld might not. It might launch on time in 2027. Because PS6 HH is primarily designed to play PS5 games at 1080p and 15W, it wouldn't have to wait for "next gen" games anyways.

 

[Shogmaster]

That'll bite them in the ass. Odd strategy.
Or are they banking on everybody coming from the console side and having a spare Xbox/PS/NSWPro controller?

You can buy perfectly fine $25 wireless PC controller from Gamesir, 8bitdo, and others as well as using 1st party console BT conttollers.

 

[Negotiator101]

With the price predicted to be near $1200 and that was before the RAM price hike I don't think @10-15 million is crazy. Especially with people having no real reason to upgrade this gen.

Well firstly the price is pure speculation, secondly the poster I responded to said 8 million and thirdly, well there isn't a third because the first two are good enough.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

When did Sony announce it?

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Out of interest, how does a setup like this compare to a PS5 Pro?

Comparable or maybe even a bit better than a PS6.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Given Sony just announced they're extending the PS5 generation, I'd imagine Microsoft - who are in a worse position on basically everything in comparison - would also need to delay. They might do a Project Scorpio pseduo-announcement - "We're happy to announce that we don't have anything to announce, but here's a bunch of talking heads tell you how great the thing we're not actually announcing is!" - but I wouldn't expect much. As for their 25th, I doubt they have the budget for that. Bond will wear a Conker T-Shirt, talk fondly about things she wasn't there for, and then they'll just drag out Halo's UE5-powered corpse and hope everyone somehow forgot that they let Bonnie Ross fuck that franchise for a decade. If you're expecting anything more, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. Microsoft is betting the farm on AI - they don't have the money for Xbox right now.

Magnus isn't a new console for a new generation, it's a PC with backwards compatability.

Not saying it won't be delayed, but MS is out of the console generation race so can be more flexible.

 

[GHG]

Valve already said controller is not coming with the box, no?

IIRC it was one of those interviews with the two Valve engineers. And the damn controller looks $100 at the very minimum, sooooo....

They've said there will be options both with and without the controller.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Here is a question. Why do you need a console or magnus or whatever you wanna call it this year or next year ? to get your ass fucked with the price of ram alone ? or double fucked with the prices of NVMes as well?

Or are you expecting state of the art technology in the box ? haven't you seen the garbage that is Xbox Rog ally X ?

 

[ZehDon]

Magnus isn't a new console for a new generation, it's a PC with backwards compatability.

Not saying it won't be delayed, but MS is out of the console generation race so can be more flexible.

Unless they've already locked in their hardware spend and manufacturing contracts with bulletproof timelines, Microsoft may not be the one who dictates their delay. They're at the whims of a market drunk on AI spending.

 

[Shogmaster]

Here is a question. Why do you need a console or magnus or whatever you wanna call it this year or next year ? to get your ass fucked with the price of ram alone ? or double fucked with the prices of NVMes as well?

Or are you expecting state of the art technology in the box ? haven't you seen the garbage that is Xbox Rog ally X ?

Magnus specs have already leaked, as well as PS6, and PS6 handheld. So we already know it crushes rehash tech in something like XB ROG Ally X. RDNA 5 is another RDNA 2 like giant leap. If any AMD gen demands a new console gen, RDNA 5 is it. I wouldn't be surprised if there is going to be a Steam Deck 2, that it uses RDNA 5.

As for why MS wants Magnus out, this is their transition device away from console model to PC OS platform model for the living room and desktop. XB ROG Ally X was just a launch device for the Windows big picture mode thingie. Magnus is the 2nd step to bring in the past XB library to the fold.

 

[Shogmaster]

Unless they've already locked in their hardware spend and manufacturing contracts with bulletproof timelines, Microsoft may not be the one who dictates their delay. They're at the whims of a market drunk on AI spending.

This is more for AMD than MS. AMD needs MS to bring out Magnus to make their AT GPU chiplet play work. AT2 will be ready to go. Zen 6 will be ready to go. AMD needs MS to make AT2 a commodity chip to help grow their PC GPU market share. Orion in PS6 will not help them there since it's using totally custom monolithic die that takes away wafers and manufacturing allotment away from TSMC.