Cumulus
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You started it and I told you that I do not wish to restart the discussion about this godawful disappointment. I just want to forget this game exists.
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ResetEraVetVIP
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Who says? LOL. There are no rules to art or writing.
CowboyLou
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I'm sure it does, but I hated the overall vibe from the start and I did not finish it. I was exaggerating for comedy above but it's really just not for me. But that's ok.
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ResetEraVetVIP
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Hyperbole.
Cumulus
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ResetEraVetVIP
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This.
ResetEraVetVIP
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Okay, back on topic guys. DERAILMENT ovah!
CowboyLou
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Hey to be fair, I wouldn't say TLOUII is much different, I just found it a little more palatable. E33 made me feel like a cat being pet the wrong way, but at least TLOUII gameplay was like getting my grundle tweezed (in a good way).
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
give it a shot in a couple of years if you are in the mood to see what the fuss was all about. the ending is absolutely incredible. Just peak storytelling. Best ending in a game since TLOU1.
ResetEraVetVIP
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There is a reason why some games have the most awards like TLOU 2 and 33 and it isn't for no reason at all...I understand that everyone will not like all games, but there is literally unjust, blind, coordinated hatred for TLOU 2 unlike other games, the unjust hate was mentioned in two Forbes articles. The anti TLOU 2 bots and haters, go into a blind trance like rage against it while ignoring everything else great about this milestone in gaming, they ignore the sound, bang for buck length, controls, motion animation, ambition, visuals etc. and just go "TLOU 2 iz da worst gaem eva made!!! becuz we say soooo!!2@!"
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March Climber
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No.
There's nothing feel good or comfortable about the ending I just described. Everyone still loses something in the end, as they should, and Ellie and Abby just lose more.
The ending I described should completely break Ellie mentally.
Also No.
Both can be bad.
Edit: I'm not even arguing for Joel to be alive or anything like some posters above, that was one of the things I was okay with. I'm literally just saying a minor, minor change to the very end of the game would improve it.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
well you can do that but as you saw, if you do that then everyone will fucking hate it and detest playing the game.
CowboyLou
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Hey man I know what it's like being an oppressed gamer, Marathon is my most hyped game of the generation after all. Really though most of these narrative-heavy, cinematic style games appeal to me less than ever, whether they're RPGs or action-adventures. I'm not exactly the biggest fan of the original TLOU either. Felt like I was playing a mediocre HBO show. Not a bad game at all but hardly some high-water mark for the medium.
Somewhat back on topic here's some Marathon shots from the Bungie site. Obviously this game isn't pushing any boundaries, but for a competitive PvP title it's the right call and for an upgraded version of the ancient Destiny engine it looks damn good. It's going to look a lot cleaner on the consoles than ARC Raiders. The art style won't be for everyone but I've been creaming my pants over it since the very first reveal. Stunning stuff. There's something about the environments and materials that makes things look very "real" despite looking very "unreal".
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
the game wouldnt have won the most goty awards if those haters ignored everything about the game. There are many like me who gave it their goty despite having some serious issues with the story. People still clearly love Naughty Dog, but are sick of Neil because of his writing choices.
TLOU1 was one of the first games that made youtube streaming reactions for games a thing. Entire youtube channels were created because people saw how popular those reaction videos were. Soon every girl had a channel and they all chose TLOU1 as their first game. Those same channels then just straight up hated the direction Neil took the story. Call it coordinated if you want, I call it a complete rejection of Neil's creative vision.
this happens to every writer.
March Climber
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TLOU 2 sits right next to The Last Jedi for me in terms of being a 'Beautiful Mess'.
Gorgeous visuals with interesting story beats that are just executed in a bad way.
Luke Skywalker experiencing a moment of doubt and darkness as a mentor and teacher of light to where he failed a student who is also his best friend's son, has so many cool implications and places it can go.
Rian Johnson told the least-good version of that tale, with a bonus casino side story.
Gorgeous visuals with interesting story beats that are just executed in a bad way.
Luke Skywalker experiencing a moment of doubt and darkness as a mentor and teacher of light to where he failed a student who is also his best friend's son, has so many cool implications and places it can go.
Rian Johnson told the least-good version of that tale, with a bonus casino side story.
ResetEraVetVIP
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the game wouldnt have won the most goty awards if those haters ignored everything about the game. There are many like me who gave it their goty despite having some serious issues with the story. People still clearly love Naughty Dog, but are sick of Neil because of his writing choices.
TLOU1 was one of the first games that made youtube streaming reactions for games a thing. Entire youtube channels were created because people saw how popular those reaction videos were. Soon every girl had a channel and they all chose TLOU1 as their first game. Those same channels then just straight up hated the direction Neil took the story. Call it coordinated if you want, I call it a complete rejection of Neil's creative vision.
this happens to every writer.
Posted URL again for people who didn't see it.
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GymWolf
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Look a bit shit on my end, but to maintain 4k dlss quality i have to play with a mix of very high-high-medium.It's heavy as fuck! And can go up to 14GB VRAM allocation (12 usage), rare for UE5 games (memory leak?)
But it looks decent:
But those SW lumen reflections...
But i left all the important stuff maxed out, i doubt lights on high and shadow on medium can radically change the look of the game...
Like rift apart run circles around this one, this doesn't even feel like a ue5 game, it's super inconsistent and i saw a looooot of poor geometry.
How detailed the guns are is the highlight for now.
Most of the aliens are very low poly for a ue5 game, and the human models are straight trash like the dude you can pet or the sister.
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GymWolf
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Dude is the biggest graphic whore in here even if i'm usually the more demanding dude.
I could not bother myself even trying trash like hb2 or anal wake 2 just for the graphic
March Climber
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Yes. The Last Jedi is a visually gorgeous film.
It is also a narrative mess.
Both can be true.
GymWolf
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It's the interesting story bits that fucking kills me...Yes. The Last Jedi is a visually gorgeous film.
It is also a narrative mess.
Both can be true.
If by interesting you mean toddler head "destroying the expectations with retarded shit" then sure, interesting bits indeed...
March Climber
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Because good writing and scenario design execution could work with some of the ideas in that movie.
Rian Johnson did not execute. He's better off not touching sci-fi and sticking to murder mysteries.
This is why I bring up writing so much every time I criticize something. It is the foundation of the building and there are certain teams out there who keep building pretty-looking buildings with weak foundations. It's almost an insult to the visual effects teams who have to work their asses off to help those above shots look so good.
To bring things back around to the thread itself, the same goes for video games.
GymWolf
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I don't think there was much to salvage in term of ideas in that movie but like you said, this is not the right place.
BlownUpRich
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I wonder what Neural Rendering tech demos Nvidia will show at GDC 2026, it's happening on March 9th, they've been teasing that quite heavily for 2 weeks now. I wonder what game support they'll announce during GDC.
Here's hoping we'll get something tasty & tantalizing from them.
Here's hoping we'll get something tasty & tantalizing from them.
Bitstream
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This was like injecting nostalgia directly into my veins. Wow.
March Climber
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While I don't see Capcom ever going back to fixed camera, this is what some other fixed camera indie devs should try to do with UE5 in the future.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
High on Life 2 looks last-gen and runs like shit. The game itself feels derivative and uninspired compared to the first game as well. Big disappointment.
ResetEraVetVIP
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Games that want to look like animated CGI movies never have enough geometric density to back it up, there are polygonal and rough edges everywhere destroying the look, even Ratchet - Rift Apart had this issue, but much much less, engines like UE5 are needed to fix this.It's heavy as fuck! And can go up to 14GB VRAM allocation (12 usage), rare for UE5 games (memory leak?)
But it looks decent:
But those SW lumen reflections...
Bojji
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In theory with nanite this shouldn't be the case (near infinite meshes) but here we are...