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[nial]

Literally a remaster of a remaster.

I can just imagine how shit IQ probably was on the last release, so I guess it's for the better.

 

[cormack12]

Is it just res and fps and the DE new ending?

 

[Baemono]

Literally a remaster of a remaster.

Doesn't seem to be more than unlocked framerate + res boost

 

[nial]

Doesn't seem to be more than unlocked framerate + res boost

'remaster' is just code for 'native port' these days

 

[Baemono]

'remaster' is just code for 'native port' these days

"These days" I'd say it was already the case back during PS3 and PS4 gen.

But the "definitive edition" on Switch 1 would be the real remaster rather than a port.

 

[DarkShadowXI]

Doesn't seem to be more than unlocked framerate + res boost

The loading times seem to be much better, as well. At least it feels that way.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Fucking A!

I know what I'm playing after MGS2/MGS3!

 

[nordique]

NICE

 

[diffusionx]

The loading times seem to be much better, as well. At least it feels that way.

that's because the cpu is much better

 

[DarkShadowXI]

Fucking A!

I know what I'm playing after MGS2/MGS3!

Come join us in the OT! It has been revived lol

 

[kevboard]

"These days" I'd say it was already the case back during PS3 and PS4 gen.

But the "definitive edition" on Switch 1 would be the real remaster rather than a port.

back in the PS360 era people mostly just called them HD ports, or HD Collections .and they often just had that HD added to the name.

but then after that you couldn't do another HD version, we already had HD, and HD as a buzzword didn't work well anymore... so people just started calling every port a remaster, since HD port didn't work anymore, and 1080p port would sound weird.

the only word left for people to use was remaster...

 

[diffusionx]

back in the PS360 era people mostly just called them HD ports, or HD Collections .and they often just had that HD added to the name.

but then after that you couldn't do another HD version, we already had HD, and HD as a buzzword didn't work well anymore... so people just started calling every port a remaster, since HD port didn't work anymore, and 1080p port would sound weird.

the only word left for people to use was remaster...

yea, the MGS4 is a port pretty obviously, but I am pedantic like this

 

[Hyet]

I'll give this game another chance I guess.
Gameplay was too complicated IMO and the story was barely there. The world is amazing visually but that by itself isn't enough for me. Let's see if the extra performance carries me to a point I like it more.

 

[Danjin44]

Nice! I hope they do same for numbered Xenoblade as well, especially for Xenoblade 2&3.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I'll give this game another chance I guess.
Gameplay was too complicated IMO and the story was barely there. The world is amazing visually but that by itself isn't enough for me. Let's see if the extra performance carries me to a point I like it more.

It's definitely the weakest in the series, in my opinion. But that still makes it better than most other JRPG's.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Nice! I hope they do same for numbered Xenoblade as well, especially for Xenoblade 2&3.

I want XB2 the most. It's my favorite in the series.

 

[Hyet]

It's definitely the weakest in the series, in my opinion. But that still makes it better than most other JRPG's.

The quality is 100% there, but the the gameplay style does not gel with me so far.

 

[Danjin44]

I want XB2 the most. It's my favorite in the series.

Both 2&3 have gorgeous visuals and just imagine with higher frame rate and better resolution.

 

[kevboard]

yea, the MGS4 is a port pretty obviously, but I am pedantic like this

most "remasters" are just ports.

in the modern era people kinda forgot that a port back in the day very often meant that a game would get multiple graphical changes, either in a negative or a positive way.

the GTA 3/VC ports for Xbox massively improved the textures, car models, character models, and effects like reflection maps on cars.

Soul Reaver on Dreamcast had a whole new character model and texture improvements... and of course the textures and polygons didn't wobble like a motherfucker anymore either all while running at 4x the resolution as well.

that was generally a thing on Dreamcast with PS1 ports. like Spider-Man, Tomb Raider etc.

it was very normal that, if a system had better hardware, a port would make use of that hardware.


hell, let's go further back!
here's Turrican on C64 vs the Amiga port:

 

[Baemono]

most "remasters" are just ports.

in the modern era people kinda forgot that a port back in the day very often meant that a game would get multiple graphical changes, either in a negative or a positive way.

So which Aladdin is better ? SNES version or Mega Drive ?

 

[kevboard]

So which Aladdin is better ? SNES version or Mega Drive ?

SNES.

but those aren't even ports. that's just 2 different developers/publishers getting the IP rights to the same movie for different platforms lol

the Mega Drive version is just a badly designed and unimaginative action platformer,
while the SNES version actually tried interesting mechanics and has actually good level design, albeit with slightly stiff feeling controls.

 

[Kataploom]

YES! It's finally playable for me on Switch 2

 

[Robb]

Nintendo is so weird with these updates.

Resolution and framerate updates for Super Mario Odyssey, Captain Toad, Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom etc.:

Resolution and framerate update for Xenoblade Chronicles X:

 

[Magic-DEI-Hire]

Is it just me or are the eShop servers slammed trying to get this?

EDIT: it was my Adblock DNS server for anyone having issues, changed it on Switch 2 and it worked suddenly.

 

[Danjin44]

There is a good chance Xenoblade 2 might not get Switch 2 upgrade but instead get definitive edition for Switch 2.

 

[Gambit2483]

Nice! I hope they do same for numbered Xenoblade as well, especially for Xenoblade 2&3.

Hell, I'd pay for a physical re-release of the entire saga if they offered it. This is the one series that could get me to do so as Not even Zelda could get me to re-buy their physical Switch 2 editions (at least not at those asking prices)

 

[Arsic]

Good. This game is great.

Ok. Sell me on it.

Xenoblade chronicles 1 I completed and it was a slog…. It did not hold up. I think I gave it a 6/10 because combat was mindless, the middle of the game felt horribly paced, but the ending made it worth going through.

XBC2 I'm maybe 15 hours in and put it down. Just not feeling it at all.

Would you say this is better than those games in the narrative and pacing department? Is combat more engaging?

 

[Gambit2483]

Nintendo is so weird with these updates.

Resolution and framerate updates for Super Mario Odyssey, Captain Toad, Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom etc.:

Resolution and framerate update for Xenoblade Chronicles X:

If I had to guess, they're using these $5 upgrade fees to help cover their increasing costs of components (RAM, memory, etc). At this point, every bit of money they can make, to help stave off increasing hardware prices, and they'll take it (same for Sony)

 

[nikos]

I own, and have never finished, every Xenoblade except for this one.

This title seems standalone, and it's really tempting, but I'm a bit apprehensive. Too many games to play right now.

EDIT: Just realized I owned this on Wii U...and never finished it.

EDIT 2: Bought lol

 

[cireza]

while the SNES version actually tried interesting mechanics and has actually good level design

The SNES game is as average and random a SNES platformer could be, while the MegaDrive game opened a new world of possibilities in terms of scale, design and animation. In a sense, the SNES feels like an enhanced 8 bits game while the MD game showed what could only be achieved on a 16 bits console.

Otherwise, great news for Xeno X. Will wait for physical.

 

[kunonabi]

I've never played a xenoblades before. Would this be a good start?

Not really despite being far and away the best game in the series. It's a very big departure from the rest so it really isn't a good example of what the franchise usually does.

 

[kevboard]

The SNES game is as average and random a SNES platformer could be, while the MegaDrive game opened a new world of possibilities in terms of scale, design and animation. In a sense, the SNES feels like an enhanced 8 bits game while the MD game showed what could only be achieved on a 16 bits console.

Otherwise, great news for Xeno X. Will wait for physical.

the MD game is trash. it has literal blind jumps with death traps, it has generic gameplay with no interesting mechanics, and the level design is a completely convoluted mess.

the SNES game had interesting parkour mechanics, had good level design WITH NO BLIND DEATH JUMPS, and just looks better

 

[bender]

Literally a remaster of a remaster.

I can just imagine how shit IQ probably was on the last release, so I guess it's for the better.

 

[cireza]

and just looks better

You can prefer the level-design and mechanics of the SNES game, fine.

But the game looking better ? Come on lol. It is random as it gets for SNES games. The average pixel-art from Capcom with the same uninspired gradients and lack of contrast. As well as small sprites and basic animation. And the sound is just bad. Aladdin on MD "looked and sounded like the movie", it had huge sprites and superb animation.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Literally a remaster of a remaster.

I can just imagine how shit IQ probably was on the last release, so I guess it's for the better.

Wow, thanks for coming here to tell us how you imagine the IQ is, in a game you haven't played.

 

[SpokkX]

damn - I really enjoyed Xenoblade 1, did NOT like Xeno 2 and fell off 3 because there was soooo much cutscenes

How does this stack up?

 

[kevboard]

You can prefer the level-design and mechanics of the SNES game, fine.

But the game looking better ? Come on lol. It is random as it gets for SNES games. The average pixel-art from Capcom with the same uninspired gradients and lack of contrast. As well as small sprites and basic animation. Aladdin on MD "looked like the movie", it had huge sprites and superb animation.

being animated like a movie is not a good thing. game animations have very different priorities from movie animations.

being smoothly animated can easily kill readability and make the visual feedback feel worse.

the SNES game might look a bit generic, but the SNES' typical advantages make it look far more appealing imo.


and I do not "prefer" the level design of the SNES game...
there's no bigger objectively bad design choice than having a blind jump into a pit, or a blind jump into spikes that hurt (possibly kill) you. and the MD game has both of them. and that's not down to opinion if that's bad... that's just objectively bad design. there's no preferring happening here. just good vs bad design

and I wouldn't be surprised if they are done on purpose, as they probably followed the same old same old "we need to make it artificially hard to not let people finish it in one weekend" shit to discourage renting the game.

and that instantly disqualifies it from being a good game

 

[danklord]

Fucking finally, I've been dying to play this.

 

[nial]

Wow, thanks for coming here to tell us how you imagine the IQ is, in a game you haven't played.

Weird thing to get mad at, but ok.

 

[nial]

Nintendo is so weird with these updates.

Resolution and framerate updates for Super Mario Odyssey, Captain Toad, Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom etc.:

Resolution and framerate update for Xenoblade Chronicles X:

It's not weird, one is just a patch and the other is a native port, something that itself obviously requires a lot more work.

 

[TheLikou]

If they added the option to change the city and combat OST I would pay more for it. But then I remember that X is the weakest game in the series by far.

 

[Danjin44]

If they added the option to change the city and combat OST I would pay more for it. But then I remember that X is the weakest game in the series by far.

I dont think its the "weakest" but its big departure from numbered series and some got in to it and some didn't.

 

[RoboFu]

SNES.

but those aren't even ports. that's just 2 different developers/publishers getting the IP rights to the same movie for different platforms lol

the Mega Drive version is just a badly designed and unimaginative action platformer,
while the SNES version actually tried interesting mechanics and has actually good level design, albeit with slightly stiff feeling controls.

are you smoking crack over there?

 

[kevboard]

are you smoking crack over there?

I am taking the best drug there is: the truth.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Nice! Now how about Metroid Dread and Prime.

 

[Danjin44]

Nice! Now how about Metroid Dread and Prime.

Nope….after this we need Switch 2 upgrade for Xenoblade 2&3 first…..Metroid can wait.

 

[cireza]

being animated like a movie is not a good thing. game animations have very different priorities from movie animations.

being smoothly animated can easily kill readability and make the visual feedback feel worse.

the SNES game might look a bit generic, but the SNES' typical advantages make it look far more appealing imo.


and I do not "prefer" the level design of the SNES game...
there's no bigger objectively bad design choice than having a blind jump into a pit, or a blind jump into spikes that hurt (possibly kill) you. and the MD game has both of them. and that's not down to opinion if that's bad... that's just objectively bad design. there's no preferring happening here. just good vs bad design

and I wouldn't be surprised if they are done on purpose, as they probably followed the same old same old "we need to make it artificially hard to not let people finish it in one weekend" shit to discourage renting the game.

and that instantly disqualifies it from being a good game

Yet the MD game is not longer than the SNES game despite the "blind jumps" that irritate you. I am going to disagree with you on this. I think Aladdin on MD, on top of being a much more impressive and faithful game, played exactly like what people expected coming from the movie, and this is the reason why it was such a huge success.

You trying to tell us it is "objectively and factually" a bad game feels a bit desperate honestly.

 

[Zacfoldor]

 

[Hudo]

Still not a fan that Nintendo are charging money for better visuals and performance if you play an old game on a new system. 4K resolution and stable 60fps should come free of charge if you play that shit on the new console that you have paid 400€+ for...

 

[videogamedude]

xeno2 upgrade would be rad

using slam in those turn based combos was such big dick damage