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[DarkShadowXI]

Doubt it. IIRC mainline Pokémon games have never been on even Virtual Console. Pokémon will always be in a league of its own even in comparison to Nintendo first party titles.

They know people will pay it.

Ah, yeah that's a great point! And for sure, this will sell like crazy.

 

[tmlDan]

anyone who buys this is a buffoon, wasting money on something thats easily attainable and free

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Ah, yeah that's a great point! And for sure, this will sell like crazy.

Exactly. The only surprising thing about this is that it took them this long to do it.

Also, everybody complaining about the price was never going to buy it anyways.

 

[Esca]

Pokémon fans will still eat it up.

They would buy a bag of gravel if you told them it was 'Geodude dust'.

Tell me more about this Geodude dust.
Price?
Release date?
How much dust do you receive?
Is there a collectors edition?
Will it be available at most store or only Nintendo stores and website?
If you buy enough Geodude dust can you make your own Geodude or do you need a mold that is sold separately?
Any accessories to go with the Geodude dust?

 

[kiphalfton]

I'm not gonna call people poor but 20 bucks is nothing, that's what i spend for lunch depending were i eat.
We also ignore 20 years of inflation and the addition of Pokemon home, it's just bitching about nothing if it bothers you that much you could always fire up your GBA again.

Trying to reinforce your argument, by using what you pay for lunch as the basis.

Nobody cares if you have shit money management skills.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Tell me more about this Geodude dust.
Price?
Release date?
How much dust do you receive?
Is there a collectors edition?
Will it be available at most store or only Nintendo stores and website?
If you buy enough Geodude dust can you make your own Geodude or do you need a mold that is sold separately?
Any accessories to go with the Geodude dust?

Follow up can I snort it?

Love me some Snortable Geodude Dust

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

anyone who buys this is a buffoon, wasting money on something thats easily attainable and free

In principal I agree, if you are "ok" with pirating software. But, in this case, I disagree. I'll give you an example.

I will be buying this game. Only one of them.

I have a 9 year old nephew. Who loves Pokemon. I would MUCH rather pay $20 for the kid to play safely on his Switch Lite, than have him looking around the internet for Roms.

 

[tmlDan]

In principal I agree if you are "ok" with pirating software. But, in this case, I disagree. I'll give you an example.

I will be buying this game. Only one of them.

I have a 9 year old nephew. Who loves Pokemon. I would MUCH rather pay $20 for the kid to play safely on his Switch Lite, than have him looking around the internet for Roms.

There are always exceptions, the option of it existing is good depending on your need.

emulating is not incredibly convenient, despite how we like saying it is

 

[Nydius]

I'm not going to be a tool and suggest people steal it. I hate game piracy.

But I also hate that digital GBA games were $8 two generations ago, are now even older, yet are 250% of that price today.

The fact that you don't get both games with the purchase and choose one at startup (which should've been the case since, like, online play was a thing) is the cherry on top. And no online play, no multiple languages, no physical release...if they went all-in like some Capcom/Konami/etc do with retro releases and include a bunch of cool bonus stuff, online play, both versions, etc it'd easily be worth 20. Sometimes Nintendo is just freaking aggravating.

Exactly this. It isn't about the fact that it's available through piracy, it's the fact they are doing the bare minimum of effort, charging twice as much, and then acting like they're doing us all a great favor. This is the exact kind of shenanigans people were concerned would happen when Nintendo abandoned Virtual Console in favor of making retro games a NSO "value add". And here we are. A straight up rom dump for one third the price they charged for brand new generational entries like Sword/Shield or Scarlet/Violet.

Anyone who buys this loses the right to complain about the "state of gaming" ever again.

 

[lame gag1990]

$20 for a digital copy of a GBA game... Fucking lol.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

$20 is a steal given Pokemon home support

For those who are saying you can just emulate, please show me an emulator that supports Pokémon home

 

[jshackles]

Love that some of the same people complaining about the price are the ones that have been complaining loudly for years that Nintendo doesn't sell ROMs and only lets you play older games with a subscription.

 

[Kacho]

The amount of people here thinking the average person cares about emulation or chinese handhelds are hilarious.

Nostalgia ain't free. Only $10 more than GB versions of Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow on the 3DS years ago. Can't say I'm surprised at the price. You're paying for Home access and convenient (reliable) Switch play. I'll probably bite at some point.

 

[Rran]

Love that some of the same people complaining about the price are the ones that have been complaining loudly for years that Nintendo doesn't sell ROMs and only lets you play older games with a subscription.

It's a classic Nintendo Monkey's Paw though. I like the idea of VC coming back in a sense just as I like the Arcade Classics selections (and now Console Classics).

But if I can buy an outstanding game like Metal Slug 3 for 8 bucks, why does Pokemon on the GBA (ONE version of it, no less) cost 20? If they went all-out like Capcom did with the Mega Man collections that would be one thing...

Man, now I'm dreaming of a world where we get a multi-game Pokemon Collection with online play, concept art etc all on the physical cart for like 30 bucks. Would be an excellent way to celebrate 30 years. Never gonna happen.

 

[bender]

Love that some of the same people complaining about the price are the ones that have been complaining loudly for years that Nintendo doesn't sell ROMs and only lets you play older games with a subscription.

Jimmy loves Burger King.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

I see this as a win. They're digital titles you can own rather than play being tied to a subscription service. That's a huge deal in my opinion. We don't see that often for old Nintendo games anymore. This also suggests the other GBA/DS games will get similar treatment. I understand being frustrated by the costs.

Edit: I mean the other GBA/DS pokemon games

 

[rodrigolfp]

Is there any point in this games now vs Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?

 

[bender]

Is there any point in this games now vs Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?

To catch 'em all.

 

[kevboard]

I see this as a win. They're digital titles you can own rather than play being tied to a subscription service. That's a huge deal in my opinion. We don't see that often for old Nintendo games anymore. This also suggests the other GBA/DS games will get similar treatment. I understand being frustrated by the costs.

I doubt other games will release this way.

they probably make it an exception for Pokemon, because save scumming and rewinding would completely destroy the integrity of the game.

and the want to integrate this into Pokemon Home. imagine if you could save/rewind scum shinys and then upload them to pokemon home lol

 

[HallowedFeast]

I understand being frustrated by the costs.

That's the cause of most of the outrage. They are charging more than it's worth because they know that their bootlickers will buy it regardless.

And before some idiot brings up game preservation or ROMs, don't forget that Nintendo used to charge significantly less for their GBA ports on their old eShop.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

I doubt other games will release this way.

they probably make it an exception for Pokemon, because save scumming and rewinding would completely destroy the integrity of the game.

and the want to integrate this into Pokemon Home. imagine if you could save/rewind scum shinys and then upload them to pokemon home lol

Sorry, I didn't explain myself well enough. I think this suggests the other GBA/DS Pokemon games might get digital releases.

 

[Bridges]

I'm a total Pokemon noob, but always wanted to jump in.
Would these two titles be a good place to start?

I've played all but the most recent generation and the last few spin-off, I think this is arguably the best starting point and it's where I started.

 

[Bridges]

Is there any point in this games now vs Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?

FireRed/Leaf green are the better remakes imo. Let's Go uses the Pokemon Go system for catching wild Pokemon, removes pokemon abilities, forces you to use a Pikachu/Eevee on your team, generally makes the game easier. Still fun but not the same.

FR/LG are the more "pure" experience

 

[rodrigolfp]

FireRed/Leaf green are the better remakes imo. Let's Go uses the Pokemon Go system for catching wild Pokemon, removes pokemon abilities, forces you to use a Pikachu/Eevee on your team, generally makes the game easier. Still fun but not the same.

FR/LG are the more "pure" experience

I read that abilities are there when you transfer to Pokemon Home. \o/

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Love that some of the same people complaining about the price are the ones that have been complaining loudly for years that Nintendo doesn't sell ROMs and only lets you play older games with a subscription.

Sony and MS are crumbling before our eyes. Nintendo could start giving out free Switch 2 consoles and some people here will find a way to hate on Nintendo for it

 

[Kacho]

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee

But if I can buy an outstanding game like Metal Slug 3 for 8 bucks, why does Pokemon on the GBA (ONE version of it, no less) cost 20? If they went all-out like Capcom did with the Mega Man collections that would be one thing...

Pokemon is leagues ahead of Metal Slug, Ace Attorney, Mega Man, etc. Both in terms of significance and brand value. That's why they can charge a premium for a single game. People will pay it, much to GAFs dismay.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

I've played all but the most recent generation and the last few spin-off, I think this is arguably the best starting point and it's where I started.

Thank you, I appreciate your recommendation
I'll give it a shot

 

[IDKFA]

Ah, yeah that's a great point! And for sure, this will sell like crazy.

Let's hope so. If it does well, maybe they'll port Emerald next.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

$20 is a steal given Pokemon home support

For those who are saying you can just emulate, please show me an emulator that supports Pokémon home

It can be done, I transferred all my rom pokes to a legit DS cartridge that I had lying around with a little hardware device that cost me around 20 a decade ago; they are all in home/violet now.

 

[Dacvak]

This should be included with NSO. $20 for each is crazy.

What the hell is Nintendo doing these days?

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Is there any point in this games now vs Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?

Real RPG VS Pokemon Go for babies.

Your choice.

 

[HallowedFeast]

Thank you, I appreciate your recommendation
I'll give it a shot

One thing you should be aware of is that these are Generation III games, meaning they predate the Physical/Special split introduced in Generation IV. Before that change, every move was classified as either physical or special based solely on its type. It wasn't like it is now, where moves can be physical or special regardless of type.

Category
Physical	Normal	Fighting	Flying	Poison	Ground	Rock	Bug	Ghost	Steel
Special	Fire	Water	Grass	Electric	Psychic	Ice	Dragon	Dark

​

This matters because several Pokémon in these games were significantly worse before the split, as their stats didn't match the types of moves they learned. A good example is Hitmonchan, which you can obtain for free and so initially looks really tempting. After all, it learns Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, and Fire Punch, giving it excellent coverage—but because this is Generation III, all of those moves count as special, not physical like they are now. Hitmonchan's Special Attack is abysmal, so most of its iconic moves end up being borderline useless. That's just one example as even fan favourites like Gengar used to be worse. He can't make great use of his powerful Ghost-type moves in Generation III because, bizarrely, they were all classified as physical before Generation IV. Granted, you'd need to trade to get Gengar anyway, but still. That's not to say that these Pokémon are unusable, but you may be expecting them to be better because of what you're used to seeing in the modern games.

It's something worth keeping in mind when building your team, as it can affect even casual players like you and me. I remember choosing Hitmonchan over Hitmonlee in Leaf Green 20 years ago, only to be dissapointed by how pathetic all of his elemental punches were.

 

[IDKFA]

This should be included with NSO. $20 for each is crazy.

What the hell is Nintendo doing these days?

I think they're compatible with Home, so that would be a big reason not to have them on NSO.

The main reason is because it's Pokémon. The games print money. Even the gash that was gen 9 sold tens of millions. These games would make far more money sold as individual titles.

Also, serious question as well, I know Nintendo owns part of the Pokémon company, but would they have the final say if a Pokémon title gets released on NSO? They don't own the franchise outright like Mario or Zelda.

 

[DreamcastSkies]

They need to do this for Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald stat. I love the aesthetic of the GBA Pokemon entries.

 

[Dacvak]

Also, serious question as well, I know Nintendo owns part of the Pokémon company, but would they have the final say if a Pokémon title gets released on NSO? They don't own the franchise outright like Mario or Zelda.

That's a good point. I mean, I bet they could get them in there if they really wanted to. There are other Pokémon games on NSO, but I guess those are mostly offshoot games?

 

[Emedan]

$20 is too much for a 22 year old ROM. For one version too? So 40 for both?

 

[Pataponpon]

Didn't realize the GBA had a CRT screen.

Never said it had, lol

 

[kevboard]

Also, serious question as well, I know Nintendo owns part of the Pokémon company, but would they have the final say if a Pokémon title gets released on NSO? They don't own the franchise outright like Mario or Zelda.

Nintendo is the publisher of the games, so they always have the last say when it comes to how they release them.

also, with the size difference between Monsters, Gamefreak and Nintendo, I'd assume, even tho they are co-owners on paper, Nintendo is still the head honcho in real terms.

 

[bender]

This should be included with NSO. $20 for each is crazy.

What the hell is Nintendo doing these days?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Never said it had, lol

But why would a GBA game include an option for a CRT filter? CRT filters are included on home consoles because 6th gen consoles and prior were used primarily on CRT displays.

I'm not trying to be an asshole so sorry if it's coming across that way. It just doesn't make any sense to put a CRT filter on a GBA game outside of the very niche oh maybe somebody played it via GameCube/GameBoy Player.

 

[Pataponpon]

But why would a GBA game include an option for a CRT filter? CRT filters are included on home consoles because 6th gen consoles and prior were used primarily on CRT displays.

I'm not trying to be an asshole so sorry if it's coming across that way. It just doesn't make any sense to put a CRT filter on a GBA game outside of the very niche oh maybe somebody played it via GameCube/GameBoy Player.

I get where you coming from, I just disliked the way the pixel art looks on both modes of the SW2, the same way I used to dislike the SNES games on the subscriptions until they added the filter, thats why I wish they would add some filter to make it prettier, unrelated to the historical hardware the game has been

 

[Spukc]

But why would a GBA game include an option for a CRT filter? CRT filters are included on home consoles because 6th gen consoles and prior were used primarily on CRT displays.

I'm not trying to be an asshole so sorry if it's coming across that way. It just doesn't make any sense to put a CRT filter on a GBA game outside of the very niche oh maybe somebody played it via GameCube/GameBoy Player.

maybe is talking about a pixel correct filter?
that shit is high end these days

 

[Ceadeus]

And they're also fighting piracy

 

[Codes 208]

This was announced through Nintendo Today app so they did it intentionally

I know that now.

The store stuff dropped in the middle of the night here in america (1am central) so at the time it seemed accidental

 

[IDKFA]

Nintendo is the publisher of the games, so they always have the last say when it comes to how they release them.

also, with the size difference between Monsters, Gamefreak and Nintendo, I'd assume, even tho they are co-owners on paper, Nintendo is still the head honcho in real terms.

Nintendo owns roughly 32% of TPC. A sizable margin, but I'm not sure they would be able to release the Pokémon games free on NSO.

There is just too much money to be made buy releasing them as standalone purchases.

 

[kevboard]

Nintendo owns roughly 32% of TPC. A sizable margin, but I'm not sure they would be able to release the Pokémon games free on NSO.

There is just too much money to be made buy releasing them as standalone purchases.

the NSO thing is purely down to the lack of integrity.
if they threw it into a service that has rewinds and save states, the save scumming would basically give every player all Shinys, which would abruptly be uploaded to Pokemon Home of course lol.

Shinyflation so to speak

 

[vodka-bull]

I'm actually glad they're charging for them because I hate Switch Online subscription stuff and not being able to buy most retro games

Got bad news for you: you won't be able to buy this game as well. It's just a license to play it which can revoked anytime.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Is there any point in this games now vs Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee?

Let's Go is a very different game (waggle mechanics + no traditional battles versus Pokemon) so I would say absolutely.

 

[VGA-Games]

anyone who buys this is a buffoon, wasting money on something thats easily attainable and free

Pirating Video Games or Emulating Video Games is also a Reason why Video Game Prices are going Up!!!

Lawyers who protect Nintendo IP's and Rights aren't free and Nintendo has to increase Video Game Prices to compensate these Costs.

This is absolutely something alot of People don't Understand!!!

And buying these Video Games aren't a waste of Money, buying these Video Games enables Nintendo to pay their Employees who are working at the Company for over 40 Year's a fair amount of Money for their Work and don't force Nintendo to close 1st Party Studios because they became Unprofitable, and the most important Thing is this enables Nintendo to create and develop new great Video Games by Employees who don't have to fear every Day to get Fired!!!

 

[Kataploom]

Whatever, indeed. I agree, their money, their decisions. But for the love of dog, don't defend this nonsense.

I defend free market, not Nintendo, people should not be treated like idiots for... buying a video game...