Wandering Leopard
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Same, Obama talked about it, it got traction / made headlines. I see it as some kind of one-up man-ship.
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U.S. President to direct Secretary of War to idendtify and release government files relating to Alien and ET life, UAP and UFOs
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chromhound
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He might leak some message by mistake as always lol
ChorizoPicozo
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Plot Twist:
They are part of the Epstein files.
They are part of the Epstein files.
That sounds like a Charles Stross Laundry Files codename! One up from Nightmare Green?
Esquie
Member
Everyone was joking this would happen… "watch us finally get disclosure because he wants to one-up Obama". Like clockwork.
Hey I'll take it any way we can get it, even tho I suspect this will just be more poor black & white footage of a random dot. Still better than nothing
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ForAcademicPurposes
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Normies: Aliens are real!!
Conspiracy theorists: No they're not.
Conspiracy theorists: No they're not.
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Romulus
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The sheer scale of this subject has to have more behind it. Objects with incredible performance that can stop and instantly accelerate have been testified to congress and been officially reported by entire squadrons going back to ww2.
The US government deemed it was "weather phenomenon" then "nazi secret tech" lmao.
Nearly every 1st world nation since has a government funded ufo program that study these objects.
Obama admitted there are things flying in our skies the US government cant figure out. He and Bush both told the public "I can't talk about subject in detail" and tight lipped about it and "there are secrets on the subject I can't share."
Look up the Belgium ufo wave in the 1980s. Literal 4 star general came out on TV and told the nation something was in their atmosphere for days that pulled g forces that would kill any human. Tracked on radar and f16 pilot visual.
Similar thing happened to the US Navy in 2004. Pilots testified before congress that they were being tracked and avoiding near misses for years by objects that had performance far beyond anything they'd seen.
It goes on and on. No way in hell this is some coordinated conspiracy from professionals to make up ufo stories all over the world going back to ww2. Makes zero sense.
The US government deemed it was "weather phenomenon" then "nazi secret tech" lmao.
Nearly every 1st world nation since has a government funded ufo program that study these objects.
Obama admitted there are things flying in our skies the US government cant figure out. He and Bush both told the public "I can't talk about subject in detail" and tight lipped about it and "there are secrets on the subject I can't share."
Look up the Belgium ufo wave in the 1980s. Literal 4 star general came out on TV and told the nation something was in their atmosphere for days that pulled g forces that would kill any human. Tracked on radar and f16 pilot visual.
Similar thing happened to the US Navy in 2004. Pilots testified before congress that they were being tracked and avoiding near misses for years by objects that had performance far beyond anything they'd seen.
It goes on and on. No way in hell this is some coordinated conspiracy from professionals to make up ufo stories all over the world going back to ww2. Makes zero sense.
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GermanZepp
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Usa already confirmed that uap's are real and that they appear all over the world. Those kinda metallic spheres or flattened spheres.
Imo there are no extraterrestrials an no little green dudes. But the fenomena is real.
They are archetypal "beings" beyond our perception that are right here right now. They do their business routines without a personal agency of conscious decisions making. They are part of the universe and maybe the oldest in planet earth.
As the spaceships, ultimately I don't think there is any. People see spaceships and spheres because is what we can make sense of it. In ancient times we saw 'fire chariots' or "flying shields". They look physical but ultimately they aren't.
Imo there are no extraterrestrials an no little green dudes. But the fenomena is real.
They are archetypal "beings" beyond our perception that are right here right now. They do their business routines without a personal agency of conscious decisions making. They are part of the universe and maybe the oldest in planet earth.
As the spaceships, ultimately I don't think there is any. People see spaceships and spheres because is what we can make sense of it. In ancient times we saw 'fire chariots' or "flying shields". They look physical but ultimately they aren't.
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DreamcastSkies
Gold Member
I wonder how much will be revealed and how what is revealed will be accepted. Will people believe it? Are we on the cusp of a Star Trek-like transformation for Earth (please)?
Romulus
Member
Remember the former intelligence officer that testified before congress that 1st world nations are in a race to reverse engineer alien materials, some of which had actual non humans occupants inside them?
That's David Grusch.
Shortly after that "crazy" testimony everyone though was bullshit, he was appointed as a special advisor to the US government's UAP task force.
I don't think people realize how deep this goes. The CIA officer that said the secrets to this matter are based around the fact that our origins are "indigestible" mentally.
But there's enough actual hoaxes and misidentification out there that you can cling on to that and feel "safe" that none of this is real. The problem is 99.9% of it can be fake and that doesn't mean this isn't real. Only 1 case needs to be real out of thousands.
Logically, it makes no sense that different cultures and eras have been telling similar lies going back to Alexander the Great and the Romans.
That's David Grusch.
Shortly after that "crazy" testimony everyone though was bullshit, he was appointed as a special advisor to the US government's UAP task force.
I don't think people realize how deep this goes. The CIA officer that said the secrets to this matter are based around the fact that our origins are "indigestible" mentally.
But there's enough actual hoaxes and misidentification out there that you can cling on to that and feel "safe" that none of this is real. The problem is 99.9% of it can be fake and that doesn't mean this isn't real. Only 1 case needs to be real out of thousands.
Logically, it makes no sense that different cultures and eras have been telling similar lies going back to Alexander the Great and the Romans.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The former CFO of "The Sol Foundation"? https://thesolfoundation.org/
Every one of these whistleblowers for the most part has been trying to profit off of it.
Even that dude from Blink 182 is involved. One of the big media pushes involving the Blink 182 guy happened a few years ago and everyone involved was getting paid to be in docs or do interviews and then ended up with a government contract.
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Hugare
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Wdym? There were UFO sightings all over the globe, USA wouldn't be an exception
In 1986 here in Brazil, there was a huge event where the national airforce chased multiple UFOs.
5 fighter planes were used, Mach 1 speed, and they werent able to come close to the objects (1.8km at most). UFOs were "playing" with them, zig zagging while being chased at high speed. They flew across multiple states. There are recordings of the pilots talking to flight controllers etc.
Shit was nuts. Honestly the most impressed I've ever been with UFO stuff.
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Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Wow, I loved this show. I forgot about the whole cat eating thing lol. My best memory is him hiding and panicking in a cabinet after an earthquake and the father slaps him. Alf then says "great, you made me blind" and the dad says "Alf, you're keeping your eyes closed."
Had me howling with laughter as a kid.
Romulus
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I think trying to lump all these guys into tne same moral tier as grifters is going too far. We don't know how they feel about the subject or if it's difficult to find work considering what was done to some of them for speaking out.
It could be some of them have legit info and concerns but also make money off it. Others don't. Others could be completely full of shit too.
Grusch has explicitly stated that he is not being paid for his testimonials or public advocacy, framing his actions as a "sense of service" rather than a commercial venture.
Either way, Grusch risking lying under oath for that makes little sense.
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Angry_Megalodon
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The cynical me thinks that they will release as little as to make people believe this is all bullshit even though they claim the opposite. I expect nothing but another psyops.
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John Bilbo
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kevboard
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they'll not create fake documents. it's just gonna be a bunch of completely uninteresting real documents.
then people with tinfoil hats will handpick eye whitness testimonies of some pilots that saw something weird 20 years ago as proof that aliens exist.
I mean, they already did that shit with already released stuff.
remember that video where a fighter pilot locked onto a "UFO"? that was TOTALLY UNEXPLAINABLE... unless you look at the data right there on the screen of the jet, after which you'll see that the "UFO" was just a fucking bird that parallaxes against the ocean.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I really doubt we are gonna to get anything from these newly released files
Bojji
Gold Member
Esquie
Member
Honestly getting tired of this "it's a distraction from the Epstein files!!" line as if we're all room temp IQ neanderthals that can't multitask. It's not one or the other.
Light_Crusader25
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I am certain there's been contact with non-humans for the longest time. The question is whether we are dealing with Aliens (extraterrestrials), interdimensional beings or entities that have been sharing the planet with us, possibly having inhabited it before our very inception...
Not sure which is scarier, to be honest.
kevboard
Member
it's not pessimism, it's realism.
realistically we will never come close to any contact with any intelligent life... because it's simply beyond unlikely to happen.
best we can ever hope for is scattered signals that we accidentally intercept.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
lmao
The sheep are easily lead. I'm not talking specifically about people intelligent enough to understand what is going on here. I'm talking about the 99.9% of american citizens who are literally the braindead slaves the elite class of cannibal pedos want them to be
if aliens do exist, which I don't doubt, the chances that they are here is so close to 0 that you may as well find a new hobby to speculate on. The idea the elite upper echelons of government and private sector military would allow the masses to see anyrhing is also 0 chance
We are cattle to them. The Epstein files proved that, it's one small club and we are not in it. Anything you are told about this subject by 'them' is to be considered manipulated nonsense and you need to understand that is the reality..
ForAcademicPurposes
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This is part of agenda 2030.
The one world government. In order to have a one world government, you have to get rid of the current one. The Epstein files are a perfect way to do that. It's exposing both sides. If the government is corrupt on both sides, let's just usher in a one world government. Digital ID;s, bio metric surveillance etc. The purpose? To manipulate people so that they're ready for this one world governance in the form of AI.
We are witnessing the controlled demolition of the current system right in front of our eyes. The Epstein situation checks all of the boxes of a psychological operation.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
None of that makes any sense. I'm sure the Epstein files expose powerful political figures in the US. Not so much the rest of the world.
Digital IDs were going to be mandatory in the UK. The government then backtracked due to public backlash. I don't see any evidence this is being rolled out internationally by 2030.
Lol. Sorry, but no. Like most conspiracy theories, this one falls apart when you apply logic and an understanding of the world outside the US.
Nocty
Currently Steaming
wtf nigga lol
There is an entire world outside of the united states you know
I am of the belief that yes there are probably small groups of people out there conspiring towards things like this but the idea that it's all one big stage by one group is absurd. Far too many moving and conflicting superpowers contending for that to be the case.
Look, no doubt we have rough times ahead. but most of the financial issues the US faces is due to reckless overprinting of money to serve a small group of wallstreet bankers and rich fucks. The fallout of it is going to be painful no doubt, but what everyone seems to forget is that Bill gates and all the other conspiracy boogymen are all old fucks, they will be dead and gone soon, so then what?
The world will move forward just as it has since ancient times. Empires rise and fall, the world falls apart and mends itself from time to time. A group of creepy pedo rich folk getting caught isn't something new. The Romans had their fair share of sociopathic sexual monsters too, and similar economic issues before collapsing too, shit just recycles.
Bojji
Gold Member
This DID thing is weird to me, we have this in Poland for several years now. And only change in life is positive, you can sign official documents using it, you don't have to carry normal id or driver license with you etc.
At the same time I can understand being worrier about anything that UK government wants to implement. They are very authoritarian...
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
The problem with the UK is that they were going to make it mandatory. Want a job? Need digital ID. People don't have a problem if it's optional, but nobody wants that shit forced on them, especially with the UK government as it is.
Although I'm married to a Polish woman, I'm not familiar with Polish politics. A few years ago my wife's nephew tried to explain it to me, but it turned into an insane rant about how the The Law and Justice Party are secret communists and are making human clones for a racist national army.......I zoned out.
Bojji
Gold Member
Yeah, our politics are... complicated. Now we will also have TRUE right wing (with open hate for jews and minorities) parties (Konfederacja in two different flavors) competing for 2027 elections. This what being ruled by center-left (KO) and having weak center-right (PiS) opposition is leading to...
But yeah, that DID is fully optional here, just making life easier.
ContrarianAsshole
Member
If the epstein files are any indication of what these releases are gonna look like I expect the documents are gonna have a lot of monoliths on them, yeah
LyricalShrike
Neo Member
How do you work without an ID atm?
BlackTron
Member
No distraction or Enquirer-worthy headline is off the table.
This has to be a "thing I will tell them to do" that you'll have to "watch" instead of...just doing it.
Because the point is to draw your attention to random other shit
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
If I apply for a new job I would provide my passport. HR then make a copy of the passport. That's it.
My Polish wife is a little different. She would provide her passport, as well as documentation (really just a code from the Gov website) confirming she has settled status in the UK.
No need for digital ID.
sono
Member
That was my first thought. but now I am thinking I doubt Obama would "accidentally" admit aliens are real followed by a reaction statement from President Trump, esp with the series of events with congress over the last few years.
Its more likely choeographed.
Its a weighty topic, The idea we cant be alone in the massive universe, but the truth with evidence of NHI might just be coming in this generations lifetime ..
Any non human intelligence here is likely to be so far ahead we will seem like nothing to them. Are we ready for the truth of them, just consider that question for a minute...
ForAcademicPurposes
Member
The only country in the entire world that is not connected to a central bank is Palestine and that stands in the way of a new world order.
Do you get it?
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Remember the former intelligence officer that testified before congress that 1st world nations are in a race to reverse engineer alien materials, some of which had actual non humans occupants inside them?
That's David Grusch.
Shortly after that "crazy" testimony everyone though was bullshit, he was appointed as a special advisor to the US government's UAP task force.
I don't think people realize how deep this goes. The CIA officer that said the secrets to this matter are based around the fact that our origins are "indigestible" mentally.
But there's enough actual hoaxes and misidentification out there that you can cling on to that and feel "safe" that none of this is real. The problem is 99.9% of it can be fake and that doesn't mean this isn't real. Only 1 case needs to be real out of thousands.
Logically, it makes no sense that different cultures and eras have been telling similar lies going back to Alexander the Great and the Romans.
Yeah yeah yeah it's Rogan, but this has always stuck with me. After the Bob Lazar interview.
Esquie
Member
Bob Lazar is one of the worst grifting UFO frauds out there, even worse than Elizondo. Anything he says and anything someone quotes of his should be considered total bullshit.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Ok
Esquie
Member
It's just a heads up to anyone reading, Lazar's a total fraud. Been caught lying many times. Even the UFOs Reddit laughs at him now.
There's a lot of grifters in this space, far more grifters than there are legit sources.