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[Felessan]

Any Pro owner who doesn't admit they paid for the privilege of being a beta tester for PS6 features is fooling themselves. The best Pro game currently out doesn't even use PSSR.
Although it looks like RE9 is going to dethrone it.

So much salt

Yeah for the first year and a half pro wasn't worth it for folks.

It still had better performance
And worth is subjective

 

[MisterXDTV]

Lemme just remind u all those stupid takes DF had not that long ago, before ps5pr0 got announced/launched:


Total clownworld take questioning ps5pr0 existence and need, and instead praising weaksauce series s(that trades blows and sometimes loses vs a handheld aka switch2 ).

They don't know shit about software and hardware developement....

Never had....

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

The game is stunning on my Pro, without a doubt one of the best looking games this gen, let the PSSR 2 goodness commence

 

[Karim]

Lemme just remind u all those stupid takes DF had not that long ago, before ps5pr0 got announced/launched:


Total clownworld take questioning ps5pr0 existence and need, and instead praising weaksauce series s(that trades blows and sometimes loses vs a handheld aka switch2 ).

 

[DryvBy]

It was completely undercooked and not ready until now apparently. Where are the people who defended PSSR 1.0?
Let's see how many devs will actually use it now.

Can you provide proof you have PS5? This reads like some kind of PC console warrior post lol

 

[Buggy Loop]

Can you provide proof you have PS5? This reads like some kind of PC console warrior post lol

Really? First time you hear PSSR 1.0 was undercooked?

 

[Karim]

They don't know shit about software and hardware developement....

Never had....

I think the real issue it's when someone strongly believe to be an expert thinking anyone or anything can't refute his knowledge.

 

[nordique]

This is awesome. Well done Sony!

 

[Karim]

It was completely undercooked and not ready until now apparently. Where are the people who defended PSSR 1.0?
Let's see how many devs will actually use it now.

The fuck is it supposed to mean? The tech based on AI or deep learning initially are all "undercooked" for their nature. They need to evolve to give their best.

 

[Topher]

It was completely undercooked and not ready until now apparently. Where are the people who defended PSSR 1.0?

If people thought PSSR was an improvement over alternatives then why would this make them backtrack on that simply because PSSR has been improved further.

I'm sorry....but there are no "gotchas" here. Most everyone, whether they thought PSSR was good or not, expected there to be improvements. That was said before Pro even launched.

 

[viveks86]

I still can't get over how Pixar let her braid completely clip through her left shoulder. Amateurs!

 

[onQ123]

Eat dick team green

You just wait until FSR4 is used on Series X you will be sorry

Thread 'Digital Foundry: Leaked FSR4 INT8 Test: RDNA 3, RDNA 2, Steam Deck, Asus ROG Ally, Nvidia + Xbox Series X Simulation'

Oct 14, 2025

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A new version of FSR4 was recently leaked by AMD (!), opening the door to high quality upscaling for any GPU that supports INT8 machine learning instructions. That means a range of products ranging from every RDNA 2 or RDNA 3 based GPU, including Steam Deck and ROG Ally handhelds. Rich takes a look at image quality and performance across a range of devices - including Nvidia (!) and even ballpark simulations of how FSR4 could run on Xbox Series X.


00:00 Introduction
02:07 Is FSR4 INT8 The Same As FSR4 FP8?
04:17 FSR4 INT8 Tested On RDNA 3: Setting The Baseline...

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[Karim]

You just wait until FSR4 is used on Series X you will be sorry

Thread 'Digital Foundry: Leaked FSR4 INT8 Test: RDNA 3, RDNA 2, Steam Deck, Asus ROG Ally, Nvidia + Xbox Series X Simulation'

Oct 14, 2025

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A new version of FSR4 was recently leaked by AMD (!), opening the door to high quality upscaling for any GPU that supports INT8 machine learning instructions. That means a range of products ranging from every RDNA 2 or RDNA 3 based GPU, including Steam Deck and ROG Ally handhelds. Rich takes a look at image quality and performance across a range of devices - including Nvidia (!) and even ballpark simulations of how FSR4 could run on Xbox Series X.


00:00 Introduction
02:07 Is FSR4 INT8 The Same As FSR4 FP8?
04:17 FSR4 INT8 Tested On RDNA 3: Setting The Baseline...

• adamsapple
• Replies: 256
• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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We already beyond. Now he is quite happy to not have raytracing on base console artifacts are too annoying. I'm ready to hear him jaggies are more natural and poetry than faking native pixels.

 

[Steve Holt]

Eat dick team green

Think they have more serious problems than the upscaler

 

[Karim]

Any Pro owner who doesn't admit they paid for the privilege of being a beta tester for PS6 features is fooling themselves. The best Pro game currently out doesn't even use PSSR.

Although it looks like RE9 is going to dethrone it.

Names please.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That wasn't the point of his post.

It was the point of my observation. If the input resolution is too low vs the output, there is no magic with AI upscaling, at least yet.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It was the point of my observation. If the input resolution is too low vs the output, there is no magic with AI upscaling, at least yet.

Once again, that was not the point of his post.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Once again, that was not the point of his post.

No one said it was.

 

[cireza]

PSSR2xSal

/joke

 

[chilichote]

If the Pro had launched with this "new" PSSR, it might have been more successful.

But what Digital Foundry is showing makes PSSR2 look like it's reached PC quality; even Battaglia is satisfied^^

 

[DenchDeckard]

Feeling much better about my ps5 pro purchase after this news!

can't wait for Saros and wolverine even more now!

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Lemme just remind u all those stupid takes DF had not that long ago, before ps5pr0 got announced/launched:


Total clownworld take questioning ps5pr0 existence and need, and instead praising weaksauce series s(that trades blows and sometimes loses vs a handheld aka switch2 ).

"Do we need a PS5 Pro?"
"PS4 Pro made sense. PS5 Pro is worthless"

Real world:

 

[mayham2199]

"Do we need a PS5 Pro?"
"PS4 Pro made sense. PS5 Pro is worthless"

Real world:

This can't possibly be real? Is this some Horizon imagery BS again or is this a real screen grab?

 

[DeepEnigma]

"Do we need a PS5 Pro?"
"PS4 Pro made sense. PS5 Pro is worthless"

Amateurs.

 

[viveks86]

This can't possibly be real? Is this some Horizon imagery BS again or is this a real screen grab?

Real screen grabs from DF's footage. PSSR 2.0 + RTGI doing the work.

 

[J Required]

"Do we need a PS5 Pro?"
"PS4 Pro made sense. PS5 Pro is worthless"

Real world:

Being schooled by Cerny .. yet again.

 

[mayham2199]

Real screen grabs from DF's footage. PSSR 2.0 + RTGI doing the work.

Wow that's incredible then. I already enjoyed my pro for what it was but if it's going to start doing shit like this I'm even happier about it. Sucks that I can't play horror games without feeling like I'm going to die.

 

[Mindman]

PS5 Pro just became Pro enough.

 

[viveks86]

If the Pro had launched with this "new" PSSR, it might have been more successful.

But what Digital Foundry is showing makes PSSR2 look like it's reached PC quality; even Battaglia is satisfied^^

The fact that both Alex and Oliver (well established and vocal critics of PSSR) have stated it has crossed the "more than good enough threshold" means:

1. Bojji can turn full PSSR 2 fanboy in March and start shaming anyone that can't afford/don't want to spend on a Pro but still want to discuss graphics
2. K Karim can retire and take a vacation
3. adamsapple can... be shamed by Bojji

 

[Unknown?]

LIKE MILK:

He was right, it's out of sight at all major retailers.

 

[scydrex]

That's what the leaks said, they even mentioned PS4 games and instead it's just Pro Enhanced games that a system wide toggle effects

It's shit in respect to disappointment yes, the quality is to be decided.

Sure because in PC you can use DLSS or FSR in all the games even the ones that don't support upscaler right?

 

[NickFire]

Originally I was going to skip the pro this gen. Then my base started acting wonky, so I traded it in and paid the extra for the modest upgrades on the pro. Then the price went up. Now its looking like there really was a secret sauce being cooked up. I'm taking this as a big win.

 

[Arsic]

When is it out?

 

[mayham2199]

When is it out?

It's already been applied to RE9. It comes out for all titles in March. All titles with PSSR anyways. Don't think they gave an exact date for March.

 

[Pedro Motta]

The fact that both Alex and Oliver (well established and vocal critics of PSSR) have stated it has crossed the "more than good enough threshold" means:

1. Bojji can turn full PSSR 2 fanboy in March and start shaming anyone that can't afford/don't want to spend on a Pro but still want to discuss graphics
2. K Karim can retire and take a vacation
3. adamsapple can... be shamed by Bojji

I mean, adamsapple is already claiming that paying it without RT on base consoles is better.

 

[Calverz]

The £800 paperweight is finally redeemed! A year before Magnus.

 

[Unknown?]

The £800 paperweight is finally redeemed! A year before £1,800 Magnus.

Ftfy

 

[chilichote]

The fact that both Alex and Oliver (well established and vocal critics of PSSR) have stated it has crossed the "more than good enough threshold" means:

1. Bojji can turn full PSSR 2 fanboy in March and start shaming anyone that can't afford/don't want to spend on a Pro but still want to discuss graphics
2. K Karim can retire and take a vacation
3. adamsapple can... be shamed by Bojji

Fun times are ahead^^

 

[hussar16]

So the news tht pssr2 would upgrade and work on all games and old was fake news. Sucks

 

[J Required]

PS5 Pro just became Pro enough.

 

[vkbest]

Well, hopefully it won't be too much trouble for devs to implement it in new games. And hopefully, the improved results will motivate them to go to the trouble of implementing it.

The problem is how developers perceive Pro benefit from sales pov. Implementing PSSR shouldn't be harder than DLSS or FSR, it's more the testing, fine tuning and support.

 

[duck_sauce]

The £800 paperweight is finally redeemed! A year before Magnus.

NeoGaf Home of the Hyperbole

 

[hussar16]

I don't get why there is an option in the OS? Does it automatically replace the old one with the new one for games beyond Requiem?

edit: nevermind, yea you can use this new one on old games.

How xan u use it on old games? And which ones? Every game or only pssr games

 

[Unknown?]

How xan u use it on old games? And which ones? Every game or only pssr games

It will replace 1.0 with 2.0 only. So games with PSSR will be updated, games that don't use it won't be.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Could we be seeing GTA6 running at 60fps on the Pro with this hmmm

 

[hussar16]

Are you kidding me??

How can you expect PSSR to work if the game code doesn't support it?

LOL

Tht was the rumors and news saying old games would support upscaling now

 

[MazingerDUDE]

PSSR 2.0 is sharper with less ghosting than full fat FP8 FSR4.

This one scene where PSSR 2.0 was blurrier I think is caused by that DRS patent for PSSR we heard few days ago, as this is one of the heaviest part in the game.

 

[Felessan]

If the Pro had launched with this "new" PSSR, it might have been more successful.

It was impossible
It's a rare case when optimization is detrimental - ps5 pro does not support fp8, because int8 is more efficient in CNN (DLSS 2-3), and "default" transformer is fp8 only
It took an year for both Nvidia (DLSS 4.5 that support int8 came in January) and Sony/AMD to adopt transformer to int8

 

[MisterXDTV]

If the Pro had launched with this "new" PSSR, it might have been more successful.

Don't you worry, it will be successful, just need GTA VI to actually release.....

 

[diffusionx]

How xan u use it on old games? And which ones? Every game or only pssr games

it's for PSSR games. Swaps out the old algorithm for the new one.