There are of course some games that do far better on consoles versus PC (or vice versa). What I think
BennyBlanco
is trying to highlight is how after Sony spent almost $4 billion on Bungie, these numbers are the best they've got to show for it?
Yes, thats all Overwatch 2 ever was, a marketing name for a major update that also happened to coincide with it coming to steam.
if its a different product? And how come i have it in my library on Battlenet when the last thing ive ever added to my account there was Overwatch in 2016?
Yes when they're the same unrelated thing you keep posting:
Guaranteed bungie went around being gaas overseer telling execs other studio games are crap. But funny how marathon was still in tact and a total clown show last year including the plagiarism issue. And still survived with a 6 months delay to boot
For the same reason you have "cod.exe" and "cod launcher.exe" for your CoD releases. It's Activision Blizzard King.
Sony was on a tear buying up gaas studios.
100%, it's what I would have done as well if I wanted to monopolise a certain part of game development within a big group. And now execs will just jump ship.
Bungie was considered the GaaS Experts
Comparisons are made all the time in ccu threads and the games released on the same days. Why get triggered? It's all in good fun.
The game is 33rd in the all-time ccu ranks. Yes... totally normal indeed ...
Yeah, but Bungie was 3.6bln, ABK was 70. I know the girl is hot, but still…
They were scared of MS buying everything like a diabetic kid in a candy shop and back in those days GAAS was the cool new thing, so they bet on Bungie and now it's blowing up in their faces like a freaking claymore
Bungie was considered the GaaS Experts
Jim Ryan even said it could generate more value than ABK,,
The problem is twofold
To be exact Bungie was $2.4B. Plus up to $1.2B in bonuses that partially weren't paid because some were retention bonuses for people who left or got fired, and others should be performance bonuses that at least partially may not have got because Marathon got delayed and Destiny 2 didn't perform after acquisition as well as they originally estimated (Sony recognized an around $200M brand value difference for Destiny 2 in their finances).
AAA games of all companies (not only Sony), both MP/GaaS and non-GaaS/SP, need more workers and more development time (so higher budget) every generation because their visuals get more detailed, and the games get larger and more dense and complex.
Yes, like SP/non-GaaS titles, GaaS compete versus new games and old games. And the room for new -both GaaS and nonGaaS- games keep getting smaller as the playtime and revenue spent in old games (mostly GaaS) released in previous years.
Oh, sorry, you're right, but right now the review score is not really the problem for this game anymore...
Nobody was triggered. Somebody said it's funny this has become a StS thread and I said that's only happened because bennyblanco keeps trying to spam StS here.
Big companies could reduce the risk if they just manned up and carved out some small teams to make some dirt cheap indie games.
Tbf, Helldivers 2 flew under radar for most of the time, near release it picked up and wom made all the work for them because it's that good, the game is the definition of lighting in a bottle, even more when the first one didn't have a fraction of players, was really cool tho, I got the platinum
When you spend 4+ billion dollars on your GAAS obsession and your most popular game ends up being from the one team you don't actually own and has already said doesn't want to work with you (as a publisher) on their next project
marathon will have 10k in 3 months.
Oh, sorry, you're right, but right now the review score is not really the problem for this game anymore...
They had to make something different because destiny 2 was still making good money way back. They wanted marathon to be that 1-2 punch because if they released destiny 3 it would eat into D2 making them a one game studio again.Tbf, Helldivers 2 flew under radar for most of the time, near release it picked up and wom made all the work for them because it's that good, the game is the definition of lighting in a bottle, even more when the first one didn't have a fraction of players, was really cool tho, I got the platinum
But yeah, this is nothing but la bomba, imagine all the time and money wasted on this, the Bungie brand doesn't have the pull it used to and those 4B dollars could have done so much better on the hands of devs that make great Single Players games, what a shame...
At that time everyone thought MS was going to make all the Bethesda and most Activision exclusive.
That would require Bungie employees to actually do work, which they are seemingly incapable of.
Men_in_Boxes
fought the good fight but gaf's zeitgiest power is overwhelming.
Yes. That's literally all it was. Microsoft got ABK and Jim Ryan impulse bought and massively overpaid for Bungie and that was back when Bungie still had some prestige. It's been all down hill for them and their "value" since the.
The sad thing too is most of that money will be automatically gone since a large part of it was retention payouts and all the execs who own shares of the company. Every dollar paid out is 100% gone
they don't need to make dirt cheap indie games. But like $350 million for Spiderman, $250 million for Marathon, this is not sustainable.
Highguard being true concord sequel got terrible numbers and official shutdown msg on 12th march, so marathon logically is concord 3, 600lbs horizon gaas looks to be concord 4 btw
