Karma_Games
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Thank you for writing such cringe that I may bask in its glow and giving my hate boner the length & girth needed to reach page 69 in this thread. Amen.
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Marathon releases to 87,000 players on Steam and 87% Positive Reviews (sponsored by coachmcguirk91)
Thank you for writing such cringe that I may bask in its glow and giving my hate boner the length & girth needed to reach page 69 in this thread. Amen.
MMaRsu
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Embark Studios head Patrick Söderlund explains how Arc Raiders was made on "a quarter of the budget" of a AAA title
"Very little of it is AI. A lot of it is reconfiguring … old ways of working"
www.gamesindustry.biz
manlisten
Member
The issue is that this game already exists in the form of Arc Raiders. Even if there is something it's doing that is unique, it's still really catering to the same playerbase who are already spoken for. That's the issue with live service. It's not enough to just make a good game, you also have to convince folks to come off of the thing they're currently invested into, to play your thing. There are only so many eyeballs to go around.
If Sony/Bungie can ride out the storm until the eventual Arc Raiders burnout hits, maybe this game will pick up. But until then it will be a hard sell to expect player count to jump significantly.
If Sony/Bungie can ride out the storm until the eventual Arc Raiders burnout hits, maybe this game will pick up. But until then it will be a hard sell to expect player count to jump significantly.
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Fess
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Justified or not, if you like a game you like it, and some games are unfortunately doomed to have negative people flock around them. No point trying to debate the game with those who just vacuum the internet to find stuff to shit on the game without even playing it themselves. Waste of time. Just put them on ignore and stay within the OT and your life will be better.
Spyxos
Member
Holy, that game is cooked. I expected way way higher numbers on a weekend. I should play it a bit more, before the servers go down.
MMaRsu
Member
Its up to 37k but those are horrible numbers for a 3 billion dollar acquisition
RafterXL
Member
If they even got that on consoles. It's literally dead on Xbox, and on PS5, if you turn off cross play, the wait times for matches in most places are apparently pretty bad and throw you into different regions without the much larger PC playerbase.
Either way, a million copies for a brand new Bungie franchise is abysmal. Sony is shitting themselves.
The CCU discussion haters should be careful what they wish for, because the CCU actually went up but the DAU (Daily Active Users) went down. They won't like what that means either.
MMaRsu
Member
How are they gonna do that when aint nobody buying the game
yurinka
Member
According to Steam global top seller ranking it was the top 3 top grossing game in Steam last week.
Above Resident Evil Requiem, despite being a $40 game instead of a $70 game.
Cumulus
Member
Veilguard was #1 in the sales charts when it released and had a similar CCU peak and drop off. And it sank BioWare which was only a fraction of the size of Bungie at that time.According to Steam global top seller ranking it was the top 3 top grossing game in Steam last week.
Above Resident Evil Requiem, despite being a $40 game instead of a $70 game.
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I wasn't selling any
Member
This sentence makes no sense. Of course it's easier to sell a 40$ game than a 70$ game.Above Resident Evil Requiem, despite being a $40 game instead of a $70 game.
coachmcguirk91
Member
People stopped buying once people played Veilguard. Marathon is still top 10 Steam 10 days later
Cumulus
Member
Wrong. The steam charts are not based on unit sales but total revenue.
StreetsofBeige
Member
RE9 launched a full week before Marathon. It sold 5M copies in week one already, so week two will tail off.According to Steam global top seller ranking it was the top 3 top grossing game in Steam last week.
Above Resident Evil Requiem, despite being a $40 game instead of a $70 game.
Even if that gamalytics estimate of 2M is correct, it sold less than half of RE9 in launch week even though it's cheaper.
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I wasn't selling any
Member
Okay, I didn't know that. I was assuming it was copies sold.
Cumulus
Member
Same as Veilguard was before it dropped completely off a cliff.
Let's hope for Bungie that marathon actually has legs.
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Thank you for writing such cringe that I may bask in its glow and giving my hate boner the length & girth needed to reach page 69 in this thread. Amen.
Can you imagine the fucking amount of soy that other dude consumes daily?
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Mortisfacio
Member
So friday nights peak CCU did tuesday>wednesday numbers. That's not great.
coachmcguirk91
Member
People actually enjoy playing Marathon. 87% user reviews on Steam
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Theres also people that enjoy buying farts in a jar
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PeteBull
Member
Looks like today(or rather tonite from my euro-perspective) marathon gonna gain some ground once again, 65k ccu 24h peak is possible to be broken,
Men_in_Boxes
gonna come back and take everyone's heads.
Men_in_Boxes
gonna come back and take everyone's heads.
falconhoof
Member
Where are you seeing DAU? I didn't know Valve put out that information.
yurinka
Member
Gamalytics (or similar) are estimates for Steam only.
Both RE Requiem and Marathon released in PlayStation+Xbox+Steam+Epic Games Store+Humble Bundle+maybe more PC stores.
The majority of Capcom games sales are in PC, while the majority of PS Studios and Bungie games sales are in PS.
I personally estimate that on its first week Marathon (all platforms combined) sold less than RE Requiem on its first week (all platforms combined), probably around slightly under half of it.
As a rough estimate I think as of now Marathon may have sold around 750-800K in Steam, around 50-100K in the other PC stores (so 800-900K in PC) and a bit more in console, mainly in PS (maybe around 900K-1M in PS and around 100-200K in Xbox). So in total, maybe somewhere around 1.8M-2.1M units plus addons from Digital Deluxe edition, battlepass and cosmetics during the first week.
But as I said, during last week Marathon was the 3rd top selling game worldwide on Steam, making more money (that specific week alone) more than Resident Evil Requiem and any other Steam game other than CS2 and Slay the Spire 2.
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Mortisfacio
Member
My understanding is the metric is calculating an average number of players over a 24 hour period. It dropped to #36 DAU.
yurinka
Member
DAU is supposed to be Daily Active Users, which is the amount of unique players who connected to the game across any moment of a specific day.
That ranking is somewhat weird because in theory shows the games ranked by DAU, but the data that lists are followers, current CCUs and all time peak CCUs.
But CCUs are Concurrent Users, meaning the amount of players connected at the same time in a specific moment, not connected in any moment of the day.
So either Steam shares the ranking sorting games by DAU but without providing their DAU numbers and Steamdb added the followers and CCUs as filler unrelated data (I think this is the more likely scenario), or if not maybe the ranking is a rough estimate steamdb does using as source the followers and CCUs (unlikely case because aren't proportinal).
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
You're still early in this
Just a genuine advice Yurika (or anyone else campaigning for this game): let the time do the talking. If it really is a success (even a moderate one), you'll be proven right in a few weeks.
Because for now you just look like this:
falconhoof
Member
Hmmm weird. DAU should be based on unique players not based on CCU.
The site states:
But I don't see anywhere that Steam reports unique user info, just current player count.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
LMAO
Everyone looks like this right now!!!!
Y'all doing all sorts of math to prove the game is a flop too. Everyone sounds crazy.
Here's some genuine advice for KyoZz(or anyone else campaigning for this game to fail): let the time do the talking. If it really is a failure (even a catastrophic one), you'll be proven right in a few weeks.
Because for now you just look like this:
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
We've seen final fantasy xiv be remade.
Honestly it's less expensive to make marathon "destiny 3" with extraction pvp at its core loop, than making Destiny 3 from scratch.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Please quote my many post were I do "all sorts of math". Be my guest.LMAO
Everyone looks like this right now!!!!
Y'all doing all sorts of math to prove the game is a flop too. Everyone sounds crazy.
Here's some genuine advice for KyoZz(or anyone else campaigning for this game to fail): let the time do the talking. If it really is a failure (even a catastrophic one), you'll be proven right in a few weeks.
Because for now you just look like this:
There is nothing to prove, the new GAAS by Bungie releasing to less than 90K CCU is abysmal no matter how you put it. Does that mean the game is DOA? Not necessarily but if you think it's starting strong, I don't know what to tell you. Helldivers 2 has more players right now, Marathon is not clicking that's it.
People extrapolating everything they can to make this seem like a success story, even citing RE9, is what's ridiculous.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
I don't think it's starting strong. I've said in this thread in the last 24 hours that Marathon is not doing good right now.
But my point stands. You're inferring that someone looks crazy for defending the game. The people on the other side of that argument - campaigning for it to fail - look just as crazed. We should all take your advice. Let's see at the end of the first season - after the wipe - how the game is doing. If no one comes back after the wipe, then yeah, the game is dead. Until then, what's the point of all the doom and gloom?
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
I think it all genuinely comes back to a similar mindset of sports honestly, and I know some jabroni earlier wants to act as if someone needs put into a mental institution for wanting some games to fail but I really do feel that it's how people root and slam sports teams, know what I mean?
I think that's why I do it, it's more just ribbing games and fans than anything else.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Yeah, I can see that comparison. I never actively root for the NY Jets as a franchise to fold though lmao. As much as I dislike them.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Haha yea, like I was so sick of chiefs in every super bowl and I find that I just have the same type of feel with some games, not like a true anger just more of a hope it sucks like I do with some sports teams mentality
Karma_Games
Member
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Saying otherwise would be delusional, indeed.
There is, however, one major difference: the game isn't doing well, you said so yourself. Therefore, those making calculations to prove the game is sinking don't need far-fetched evidence to support their claims: the game's CCU is already alarming lmao.
Besides I don't see anyone doing weird calculations to prove the game is going to tank, they're simply trying to predict the next CCU spike.
Also
Men_in_Boxes
tried to argue with me but then completely disapeared once he was proven wrong. You ok buddy?Same for
coachmcguirk91
who told me a few days ago "the game is gonna get higher spike for the first time OMG". Spoiler: it didn't.These two particularly have been arguing in bad faith over and over again.
All in one I see one side having fun, and the other side having a total breakdown with people like me (and you?) looking at this with disdain. I really hope Bungie learn it's lesson, because I liked this studio.
Still waiting for you to quote me with my math btw.
Badly, that's how it's gonna do. It won't gain 150K players, which is why it needs. At minimum.
Having fun? You don't like people shitting on a (terrible) game., it's ok, we all are different.
Someone made a summary on why we all having fun seeing this going into oblivion, you should look at it.
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RPS37
Gold Member
Damn I even played the demo but couldn't recognize it!
Guardian Monkey
Member
Damn straight!
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
They are in trouble if Crimson Desert lives up to the hype.
Just anecdotal, but I was talking to my older son who's hardcore into online PvP type shit and it went something like:
"well i played the server slam and i kind of liked it. mainly only the pvp though. it was fun but just not worth $40 in my opinion it seemed like it was lacking content though it was the server slam so there could be more that you dont get access to. also performance was pretty bad especially on the bungie engine whatever they use"
Then the next comment after I brought up Requiem:
"oh yeah i beat the game already and let me tell you genuinely one of the best games ive ever played. also the game runs really good"
This is from the exact target audience for Marathon. It's not just competing with other GAAS/PvP, it's competing for the same money/time/hype with monster SP games like Requiem and Crimson Desert.
Hollywood Hitman
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Plague Doctor
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