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Nisekoi 3 - A bonus of one point <3.

And we come into normal triangle date hijinks at the end and more confusion around the status of the childhood promise girl.
 
Well, ishida's words make it sound like others might have known. Ichigo's about to be mind fucked again which is awesome.

And im talking about a shoutout to NeoGAF

Ishida is there so he might give Ichigo some sense in some way or another.

The funny part is there is a girl on another forum who made a theory that Ukitake is evil and he is working with Aizen 2 years ago.

I don´t know what you mean in the bolded part.
 
Ishida is there so he might give Ichigo some sense in some way or another.

The funny part is there is a girl on another forum who made a theory that Ukitake is evil and he is working with Aizen 2 years ago.

I don´t know what you mean in the bolded part.

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Skip Beat 183 - Tsuruga boss moding some of the actors and we're finally being explicitly told what everyone kind of figured Kyoko's Setsuna role is for.

Honestly, I'll just be happy to put Tsuruga's dark past behind us. It feels a little overly done. But I guess being an asshole
and friend killer
makes for a pretty mood dampening childhood.

The funny part is there is a girl on another forum who made a theory that Ukitake is evil and he is working with Aizen 2 years ago.

Well, at least it'd make him stand out a bit more.
 
More Bleach spoilers

Inoue and Chad are brought to Urahara shop, Tessai heals them, Urahara then leaves
Isshin ask where is he going, Urahara says : to where everyone is.
then switch to Ginjou ichigo ishida scene..
talks alot about fullbrings etcetc
Ginjou said the Substitue shinigami license real name is "Shinigami Substitute Battle permit license"
and something about an audiomonitor and the device that can measure amount of reaitsu being inserted into the badge..
and the one who's been working with us is Ukitake Juushiro , 13th division captain.
Ukitake's main goal is to control them, monitoring Soul society, if anyone disobey will be killed.
Ginjou said soul society doesn't know this matter except Ichigo..
last, ichigo said: bankai!

It makes a lot of sense that soul society would feel threaten by powerful individual who are not under their jurisdiction.
 
How is it one of worst written? Sure, there's been some questionable developments but the narrative make sense overall. The manga has been sci-fi since Chapter 1 and the GC stuff is just a (mostly) natural progression of that.
Sora is a great antagonist.
That already makes Air Gear better than half the shonen stuff out there.
Air Gear makes sense? I read up to c186 and that manga doesn't make a lick of sense. It is full of incomprehensible character reactions, sub-plots, and reality/logic defying events. It's one of the most nonsensical manga I have ever read.
Virgin na kankei serious? lol, The MC is the worst scum I ever met apart from Makoto. Velvet Kiss is way more better.
Guh...
 
Toriko 165

Damn, Livebearer just keeps getting creepier.


Naruto Spoilers

Getting that hit on his head was just for effect. Not one scratch/crack was left on him.

The fight against the other Jinchuuriki begins.

The jinchuuriki each have one eye with Sharingan and one eye with Rinnegan.

The masked Madara's mask is a special kind; a sturdy one for fighting. And though it's hidden at first, the left eye of the masked Madara also has Rinnegan

Madara says: "Tobi, Madara...call me whatever"

After Madara and Naruto's talk, the issue ends with all the Jinchuuriki unleashing the power of their bijuu.

!!!

I'm glad that Kishi gave the Jinchuriki's access to their bijuu's. This should be an awesome fight (I wonder though, how will explain giving them their tailed beasts when the tailed beasts are trapped inside the statue?)
 
:O

Makes sense. Ukitake is the sole person that gave Ichigo the Shinigami badge, and we hadn't heard of it from anyone else in SS.

wtf how does Ukitake randomly being evil make any sense - it's utterly idiotic


!!!

I'm glad that Kishi gave the Jinchuriki's access to their bijuu's. This should be an awesome fight (I wonder though, how will explain giving them their tailed beasts when the tailed beasts are trapped inside the statue?)
They're trapped in there in the sense they can't escape. I'm sure there's nothing preventing him from giving them out.
 
Be cool if Ichigo's Bankai now have traits of everyone that donated spirit pressure.

Ichigo doens't have powers beyond Super Saiyan modes. It's a requirement that shonen MC's get super saiyan as their general skill.
 
Ichigo doens't have powers beyond Super Saiyan modes. It's a requirement that shonen MC's get super saiyan as their general skill.
He should be pissed that everyone else's sword can do cool shit, but all his does is just smash shit.

I hope captain cough is the bad guy, maybe we will see his and Unohana's Bankai.
 
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Tsukishima is finally crushed! Only Ginjou appears to remain. What are his shocking truths?
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At Urahara's shop. Inoue and Chad are sleeping.
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Isshin: They've settled down...
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Urahra: Yes. Tessai-san, I'll leave them to you.
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Tessai: Yes.
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Isshin: Where're you going?
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Urahra: To where everyone else is.
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Isshin: Reinforcements? I'll go too.
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Urahara: No, The battles are mostly finished and you're no help at healing. Please stay here.
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Isshin: I think I should hurry up and help at Ichigo's fight to straighten up after him. If I don't...
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Urahara: He'll hear everything from Ginjou? It's ok. He'll find out sooner or later.

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Ichigo: The enemy I should really be fighting...!?
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Ginjou: Yes.
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Ichigo: Quit bullshitting! I'm tired of your stalling tactics.
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Ishida: That's right. Seeing you're at a disadvantage you present "shocking truths" to pressure him psychologically into joining forces with you. Isn't that right?
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Ginjou: A disadvantage? How do you see that? Sorry, but right now I'm enough to handle the two of you. For instance if you attack from behind I can repel it even while I speak to you.
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Ginjou: Kurosaki...Do you know why you were given the Shinigami badge to hang onto?
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Ishida:...!
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Ichigo:...What do you mean?
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Ginjou:...They should have told you this when you were given the badge. The Shinigami badge is given when you are judged by SS to be useful. Listen up, Kurosaki, that's a lie.
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Ichigo: !
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Ishida: (...I predicted that much. For a single organization to judge one's usefulness or harmfulness isn't a simple matter. And above all there's the question: if he was given the badge after being deemed useful, why wasn't Kurosaki told what would happen to him if he weren't?
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Ginjou: The truth is, being useful or not is irrelevant. Either way you are given a badge.
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Ishida: ..!!
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Ginjou: The formal name of the badge is the "Acting Shinigami Agent Combat Permit." It authorizes you as the Acting Shinigami Agent in the real world.
Ichigo: I know that.
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Ginjou: But up till now have you ever felt its effects?

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Ichigo remembers the time he showed the badge to Afro-san.
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Ichigo: Kurosaki ichigo! Acting Shinigami Agent. Here's my badge!
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Afro-san: What's that? I've never seen or heard of anything like it!!
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Ichigo: What the hell? Is it completely useless?


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Ichigo:...Then you're saying the Shinigami badge has a special purpose?
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Ginjou: Yeah. The purpose of the badge is surveillance and governance. Thanks to the badge SS can always know your whereabouts. At least as long as you're near the badge they were able to govern your reiatsu. Didn't you ever suspect? As a shinigami going on a rampage. [TN: There's a typo here so I'm not sure what she means.]
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When you were human you even felt its effects each time. When you used the badge to bring out your reiatsu. During your fullbring training you heard the voice of your nakama through the badge.
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The badge is a communication device with SS. It absorbs your reiatsu, analyses it, and governs it. You are being observed by SS.
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You were given the shinigami badge so you could be governed.
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It's not that you didn't have a sense of unease. You were unconsciously crushing it.
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It's not that the opponent I understood through fighting is deceiving himself.
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It's just that you wanted to believe it, ichigo.
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Let me tell you. This plan's originator was Ukitake Jyuushiro, captain of the 13th division.
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The Gotei 13's most peace-loving man is the one who placed us in handcuffs, Ichigo!!

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Ishida (The truly awful case is none of those mentioned.)

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Ginjou: His aim was to observe and control us, to use us as soldiers for SS. And to eradicate us if we resist!
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Ishida: (Awful...)Kurosaki!!! (Kurosaki won't be able to withstand these kinds of truths the way he is now.)
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Ginjou: All your colleagues in SS understand. They are all watching, letting you die, Ichigo.
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Ishida: Don't listen, Kurosaki!!
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Ichigo: Shut up!!!

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Ichigo: Bankai!
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A roar to erase delusions!!
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maybe it'll end up Ukitake is his Dad (they do share a resemblance) or something, thus also explaining why he hates Ichigo's dad. He has daddy issues and hates shinigami who conceive.

Either way it opens up that stupid plot hole revisionist twist shit Kubo is always pulling if Ukitake just forgot to mention all this.

Why couldnt Bleach have just ended with Aizen! I'd be free of this curse!!

Ukitake did give him the substitute badge...

Reading the translation, Ginjou comes off as a truther. "He made us into sheeple! Open your eyes man!" They can keep tabs on Ichigo and check him if he goes nuts? BETRAYAL! Uh... What? How is that betrayal? It's not like they ever actually did anything like that while Ichigo was going hollow etc.
 
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Surveillance? Who gives a shit. Mayuri takes fucking specimens.

EDIT:
Ginjou: His aim was to observe and control us, to use us as soldiers for SS. And to eradicate us if we resist!

Again...so what. OMG SS knows I went to school today! And they have insurance in case I go on rampage and use my shinigami powers to rob banks. And you are soldiers for SS you idiot. A mercenary, which is the closer label for subs, it still a soldier assigned to an army.

This is sooooo stupid.

EDIT2:
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid.
 
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Surveillance? Who gives a shit. Mayuri takes fucking specimens.
Heck, Mayuri gives you magic STD's that track everything you do while he's trying to poison you.

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Ginjou: His aim was to observe and control us, to use us as soldiers for SS. And to eradicate us if we resist!

Again...so what. OMG SS knows I went to school today! And they have insurance in case I go on rampage and use my shinigami powers to rob banks. And you are soldiers for SS you idiot. A mercenary, which is the closer label for subs, it still a soldier assigned to an army.

This is sooooo stupid.

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Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid.
Pretty much. Ginjou's upset over nothing, and I don't get why Ichigo would be upset at this revelation.

In the same situation, I'd say "You can't possibly be this stupid can you Ginjie?"
 
Ukitake did give him the substitute badge...

Reading the translation, Ginjou comes off as a truther. "He made us into sheeple! Open your eyes man!" They can keep tabs on Ichigo and check him if he goes nuts? BETRAYAL! Uh... What? How is that betrayal? It's not like they ever actually did anything like that while Ichigo was going hollow etc.
here's the problem. Ichigo basically has to oney ss now regardless of his wishes. If SS decides they want ichigo to purge quincies as well as any other spiritually aware human, ichigo must obey or die. Thats also why ishida remembers his thoughts about the worst case. We also know shinigamis do like to kill spiritually aware humans like quincies.
 
here's the problem. Ichigo basically has to oney ss now regardless of his wishes. If SS decides they want ichigo to purge quincies as well as any other spiritually aware human, ichigo must obey or die. Thats also why ishida remembers his thoughts about the worst case. We also know shinigamis do like to kill spiritually aware humans like quincies.

Because he would have a hard choice between killing innocent people or disobeying SS...
 
Because he would have a hard choice between killing innocent people or disobeying SS...
That's one outcome, correct. Ichigo's been lucky that he wasnt around during the quincy purge. Otherwise, he would have been killing innocent humans in the name of SS. My guess is ginjou probably had to do some nast y stuff as SS's proxy.
 
here's the problem. Ichigo basically has to oney ss now regardless of his wishes. If SS decides they want ichigo to purge quincies as well as any other spiritually aware human, ichigo must obey or die. Thats also why ishida remembers his thoughts about the worst case. We also know shinigamis do like to kill spiritually aware humans like quincies.
Yea, according to moron Ginjou they would kill him. Is Ginjou dead? Ummm...no. And he is completely rogue being a jerk to the world and still has his badge. Yet, he is preaching that they kill you if you revolt against their wishes?

Complete and utter nonsense.
That's one outcome, correct. Ichigo's been lucky that he wasnt around during the quincy purge. Otherwise, he would have been killing innocent humans in the name of SS. My guess is ginjou probably had to do some nast y stuff as SS's proxy.
If Ichigo quit, SS would just drop him off in the real world and say bye-bye. He wouldn't have participating in the quincy purge and they wouldn't kill him for not joining in. It's quite a ridiculous statement by Ginjou.
 
Yea, according to moron Ginjou they would kill him. Is Ginjou dead? Ummm...no. And he is completely rogue being a jerk to the world and still has his badge. Yet, he is preaching that they kill you if you revolt against their wishes?

Complete and utter nonsense.

It's quite a ridiculous statement by Ginjou.
We havent seen Ginjou activate his shinigami power either. Thus far, he has only used fullbring. Urahara's conversation with Isshin implies Ginjou is telling the truth.
 
If Ichigo quit, SS would just drop him off in the real world and say bye-bye. He wouldn't have participating in the quincy purge and they wouldn't kill him for not joining in. It's quite a ridiculous statement by Ginjou.

This does not make sense at all. Ichigo is an extremely powerful individual who is not under SS´s jurisdiction. They would have gotten rid of him, since they can´t control him. They knew that he would be a huge asset against Aizen that´s why they have not done anything. But Yamamoto wanted to control him by preventing him from rescuing Orihime. If SS does not have control over powerful individual, they would feel threatened and do to Ichigo like they did to the quincies. Yeah, i know that the circumstance is different, but Ichigo would be killed.
 
I don't even get on what grounds Ichigo would be shocked by this; Soul Society already has engaged in a number of apparently sinister acts, such as:

* promoting a genocidal maniac to Captain and letting him wander around openly abusing his daughter and nobody even says anything, not even Ichigo.
* Letting another captain maintain his position by literally murdering every one else who opposed him.
* Sentencing Rukia to death for no apparent reason at all.
* Issuing a Kill-on-Sight order on the Visored for having a power that doesn't seem to have any side effects on them at all beyond being stronger than normal.
* Letting virtually 99% of the population Soul Society to live in eternal poverty.
 
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