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Was Cooper even a guy that Meyer recruited? Seems like he was a Zook guy. Still, he was a good receiver when he was there, and has been good in the pros.

Pretty sure Meyer recruited him. He was a freshman in 2006, and Meyer started coaching in 2005.

 

[MrJames]

Was Cooper even a guy that Meyer recruited? Seems like he was a Zook guy. Still, he was a good receiver when he was there, and has been good in the pros.

Yes, Cooper was in the 2006 class with Tebow, Harvin, Spikes, etc. David Nelson and Louis Murphy were in the 2005 class and are doing alright in the NFL as well.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

You fire the coach but not until after his next game? Dan Guerrero is such an incompetent stooge.

Actually, this photo was more hilarious.

Dang, Rick was a real accurate passer in college 69.3% completion

 

[bluemax]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The shitty thing is, this is apparently the same way his players found out!

Edit: Dammit beaten!

Andrew Caldwell, Louis Murphy, David Nelson, Riley Cooper, and Percy Harvin are all active NFL receivers that played for Meyer. The first three were pretty much Zook guys though. Nelson was probably highly underutilized at UF.

I agree with your general premise though. Meyer started getting obsessed with speed and just started taking fast/small guys. Not exactly pro-typical NFL players.

I never said my impressions were right. But I always like to look at other teams and go, "Who on this team would be starting for USC?" and Hernandez and Harvin.

 

[bachikarn]

You break UF by recruiting a bunch of prima donnas and letting seniors without leadership talent lead the team while you take time off to let Addazio run the program. In 2010, before the season, the highly touted freshmen banded together and refused to practice for a bit. Turns out it was because the 2010 seniors were being terrible leaders and just treating everyone like serfs. Addazio and Meyer (to a lesser extent) had favorites and let them get away with anything. In the bowl game, the seniors refused to practice and didn't even show one day. Addazio just let it happen.

This is a great hire for tOSU, while Meyer still has the fire. But if he gets a championship or two under his belt then he might decide to take a backseat again. If he comes in with the same attitude he left UF with, y'all are fucked.

Not to mention he let our roster have 15 less players than the scholarship limit. That normally only happens if you are on probation.

 

[andycapps]

Yes, Cooper was in the 2006 class with Tebow, Harvin, Spikes, etc. David Nelson and Louis Murphy were in the 2005 class and are doing alright in the NFL as well.

Gotcha.

 

[devildog820]

Not to mention he let our roster have 15 less players than the scholarship limit. That normally only happens if you are on probation.

USC has more...

We also only have 5 or 6 scholarship o-line players. Muschamp needs this year AND next year to even compete with the SEC West again.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The shitty thing is, this is apparently the same way his players found out!

Rick has a habit of that.

Day One: Rick Neuheisel states he want's to be the "Paterno of Colorado." and denies being interested in any other job.

Day Two: Rick meets with CU players and tells them he's leaving for Washington.

 

[Limedust]

You're ignoring the implied asterisk:

*"As long it's not my team."

In related news, Gundy said at his weekly press conference that he will not lobby for OSU to be included in the MNCG, and that he would vote Bama ahead of OSU in the coaches' poll if he had a vote at the moment.

*"As long as I don't have a vote."

;D

 

[Branduil]

https://twitter.com/#!/SPORTSbyBROOKS/status/141231493757415425

Now for today's real news: Today was a "devastating" blow to Dan Guerrero's job status. After what he said Saturday night.

 

[andycapps]

USC has more...

We also only have 5 or 6 scholarship o-line players. Muschamp needs this year AND next year to even compete with the SEC West again.

The West doesn't matter if he can't compete against the East. You have to win your division first, then worry about the other guys.

 

[Tanolen]

Neuheisel isn't returning next year:



I don't know who they will hire next, therefore, pirate king.

Make it to first pac-12 conference championship and get fired for it.

 

[killertofu]

USC has more...

We also only have 5 or 6 scholarship o-line players. Muschamp needs this year AND next year to even compete with the SEC West again.

Is this why our O-Line sucks so much?

 

[CriginsMcJuggs]

Cincy loss means louisville bcs

not if we win

 

[Lonestar]

Saw this quote from Saban from 2003 on my Twitter feed today.. "Anyone who doesn't win their conference has no business playing in the national championship game." I assume he'll decline any invitation this year, BCS computers may as well not waste their time.

Every time I see this come up, no one can link to when or where he said it.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Make it to first pac-12 conference championship and get fired for it.

You mean behind USC?

 

[KingGondo]

*"As long as I don't have a vote."

;D

Probably true.

But I ascribe to the theory that Gundy is simply building credibility with the national media by being "honest"...

That way, after we skullfuck OU, he can come out and say "we deserve our shot" and people will listen.

 

[bachikarn]

I love that Spurrier is winning again. We always get awesome quotes:

After the Gamecocks roasted Clemson 34-13.

"Historically, Clemson has owned this series," said South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier, who's won three straight in the series. "They don't own us now."

- AND -

“We aren’t L.S.U, and we aren’t Alabama, but we sure ain’t Clemson.”

 

[Tanolen]

You mean behind USC?

Eh, USC would have got beat if UCLA was worried it had to beat them to get to the game. Like NFL teams resting players for the playoffs.

USC got lucky.

 

[andycapps]

Every time I see this come up, no one can link to when or where he said it.

No clue, someone retweeted it from an Auburn beat writer. Not sure of the original source.

 

[devildog820]

Is this why our O-Line sucks so much?

Partly. The other part is that the scholarship players we do have aren't really that great either. All of Meyer's linemen left for the NFL or transferred. The ones we have left are ok, but there's only six and they can't stay healthy enough to build any chemistry anyway.

 

[devildog820]

Every time I see this come up, no one can link to when or where he said it.

I think the Auburn guy paraphrased it. I remember Tiger Droppings (lawl) had a thread on it years ago.

 

[Lonestar]

Not to mention he let our roster have 15 less players than the scholarship limit. That normally only happens if you are on probation.

It actually happens when you don't "oversign" and fill in spots for the players that will inevitably leave early, transfer, quit football, get arrested, become Crime Fighters, Open a Bar, Start an organized religion, etc etc etc

If you don't oversign, and those players leave and you had no one to fill in, it's how you end up 15+ spots short of 85.

This is what Oversigning.com taught me.

Oversign and be Alabama or LSU. Don't and become Tennessee.

 

[Kosmo]

BCS is great:

Alabama gets a bye to the MNC for losing to LSU.
Michigan gets a bid to the BCS if things break right while Michigan State would get left out, despite being in the B1G championship and beating Michigan.

 

[devildog820]

It actually happens when you don't "oversign" and fill in spots for the players that will inevitably leave early, transfer, quit football, get arrested, become Crime Fighters, Open a Bar, Start an organized religion, etc etc etc

If you don't oversign, and those players leave and you had no one to fill in, it's how you end up 15+ spots short of 85.

This is what Oversigning.com taught me.

Oversign and be Alabama or LSU. Don't and become Tennessee.

Heheh.

Seriously though, we've had an abnormally high transfer rate in the last four years. Even before Meyer quit. That's not all his fault, because you can't tell who's going to wash out usually. Happened to Billy Donovan after the back to back championships too. Lots of great recruits, all sucked.

 

[Lonestar]

BCS is great:

Alabama gets a bye to the MNC for losing to LSU, and Oregon losing a 2nd game, and Oklahoma losing a 2nd game, and Oklahoma State losing to Kentucky-level talent, and Stanford losing badly to a 2 loss Oregon team, and USC being on probation, and VT being VT, and Boise State missing a field goal against a conference opponent (who are all shitty).

Michigan gets a bid to the BCS if things break right while Michigan State would get left out, despite being in the B1G championship and beating Michigan.

Is the Michigan possibility if Wincy wins and LSU wins, moving Georgia and MSU south, and letting Michigan get into the top 14 (which is the BCS cutoff, I think)?

1 LSU 12-0Wins, MNC team
2 Alabama 11-1 idle, MNC or BCS At Large team
3 Oklahoma State 10-1 Wins MNC or Big XII Winner - Fiesta Bowl
4 Stanford 11-1 idle, BCS At Large Team
5 Virginia Tech 11-1 wins, ACC Winner - Orange Bowl
6 Houston 12-0 Beats Southern Miss, BCS At Large Team
7 Boise State 10-1 Beats New Mexico
8 Arkansas 10-2 idle, but 2 SEC teams already going, so no BCS
9 Oregon 10-2wins, Rose Bowl
10 Oklahoma 9-2 loses
11 Kansas State 9-2 Win or Lose to Iowa State
12 South Carolina 10-2 idle, but 2 SEC teams already going, so no BCS
13 Michigan State 10-2 loses
14 Georgia 10-2 loses
15 Wisconsin 10-2 wins, Rose Bowl
16 Michigan 10-2 idle

So 10 BCS teams, and the way I wrote it, they are

LSU
Alabama
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Virginia Tech
Oregon
Wisconsin
Whoever the Big East is...
Houston
and....?

So there is no chance for both Houston & BSU, right?
Would Kansas State go before Michigan, or do the At Large choices become "actual" choices, that the bowl can decide who they would want, not next in line on the BCS Score?

 

[jjasper]

Oversign and be Alabama or LSU. Don't and become Tennessee.

True. Fucking Houston Nutt.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Just making sure everyone without a dog in this fight is in agreement: UCLA has to win on Saturday, right? Its just too delicious that a 7-6 UCLA will go to the Rose Bowl.

Is UCLA eligible for a bowl if they go 6-7, with the Championship game putting them under 500?

 

[Lonestar]

True. Fucking Houston Nutt.

There's a disclaimer in there somewhere

Goes like this:

"it helps to sign quality football players, not just warm bodies"

 

[StoOgE]

Would Kansas State go before Michigan, or do the At Large choices become "actual" choices, that the bowl can decide who they would want, not next in line on the BCS Score?

1-2 go to MNC.
Each BCS auto bid champ goes.
Non-BCS conference champs in the top 12 automatically go.
Non-BCS conference champs in the top 16 automatically go *if* they are ranked above a BCS conference champ
Non-BCS conference champs get fucked rule. Only the highest ranking non-BCS champ gets the above rule. 2nd place has to be selected.
Only 2 per conference can go.
Notre Dame gets to go unless they kill a student in high winds.
3rd place in the BCS gets to go, even if it's not a conference champ.. unless there is a violation of the 2 per rule thing.
After that, it's the bowls choice if they are in the top whatever the hell and qualify.

So yeah, short of one of the rules being violated, it's the bowls choice.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Just making sure everyone without a dog in this fight is in agreement: UCLA has to win on Saturday, right? Its just too delicious that a 7-6 UCLA will go to the Rose Bowl.

Absolutely.

Although, part of me wishes the Rose Bowl was played at LA Memorial Coliseum just to troll USC.

 

[MrJames]

Heheh.

Seriously though, we've had an abnormally high transfer rate in the last four years. Even before Meyer quit. That's not all his fault, because you can't tell who's going to wash out usually. Happened to Billy Donovan after the back to back championships too. Lots of great recruits, all sucked.

The transfers are from guys who came to UF and couldn't crack the two-deep when they could start elsewhere. I believe there have been 8 or 9 since Muschamp took over. Mostly guys who caused trouble or wouldn't buy into his system.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

I love that Spurrier is winning again. We always get awesome quotes:

After the Gamecocks roasted Clemson 34-13.

"Historically, Clemson has owned this series," said South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier, who's won three straight in the series. "They don't own us now."

- AND -

“We aren’t L.S.U, and we aren’t Alabama, but we sure ain’t Clemson.”

He'll get his eventually. The universe always rights itself.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

1-2 go to MNC.
Each BCS auto bid champ goes.
Only 2 per conference can go.
top 5 have to go.
After that, it's the bowls choice if they are in the top whatever the hell and qualify.

So yeah, short of one of the rules being violated, it's the bowls choice.

Only one of the top 5 has to go. *winks at Cyan*

 

[jjasper]

There's a disclaimer in there somewhere

Goes like this:

"it helps to sign quality football players, not just warm bodies"

Well yeah. The warm bodies where the end of the Fulmer era when he couldn't recruit for shit and just signed whoever would come. Not being able to oversign killed us once they were all gone from Kiffin cutting all the shit players and we couldn't catch up. But of course oversigning.com didn't think about that possibility. They were too busy talking about what a fine upstanding person Tressel was and how if all coaches were like him the world would be a better place.

 

[W Hudson]

So at this point I guess we're basically guaranteed an Alabama-LSU title game, no matter if LSU loses on Saturday or not? It would be complete BS for them to beat Alabama at home to get into the SEC title game then lose the game and drop below the very team they beat to get there. And Alabama seems entrenched in the #2 spot, so I cannot see any other scenarios for the title game.

 

[Lonestar]

So at this point I guess we're basically guaranteed an Alabama-LSU title game, no matter if LSU loses on Saturday or not? It would be complete BS for them to beat Alabama at home to get into the SEC title game then lose the game and drop below the very team they beat to get there. And Alabama seems entrenched in the #2 spot, so I cannot see any other scenarios for the title game.

South Carolina's ranked higher than Georgia, beat Georgia, but because they actually played 1 of the "big 3 SEC West teams" (unlike Georgia), they aren't in Atlanta.

And unless Alabama masterminded the Iowa State, USC, and Baylor performances of last weekend...

 

[AlteredBeast]

Man, if Leach doesn't get a job with all of these openings lately, then ESPN really does have everyone by the balls.

 

[andycapps]

UGA recruit, John Theus, just tweeted that UF just lost their recruiting coordinator, John Pantoni.

 

[MrJames]

I love that Spurrier is winning again. We always get awesome quotes:

After the Gamecocks roasted Clemson 34-13.

"Historically, Clemson has owned this series," said South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier, who's won three straight in the series. "They don't own us now."

- AND -

“We aren’t L.S.U, and we aren’t Alabama, but we sure ain’t Clemson.”

Classic Spurrier. I remember in the mid 90's when he took a call on his Thursday night show from a Gator fan living in Tallahassee. He was asked if he had made additional preparations for playing FSU that year. FSU had won several in a row so living in Tallahassee was pretty hard as a Gator. Spurrier reminded him that he could always move to Georgia.

 

[Limedust]

UGA recruit, John Theus, just tweeted that UF just lost their recruiting coordinator, John Pantoni.

So Meyer is the gift that keeps on giving to UF?

 

[Lonestar]

http://www.bruinsnation.com/2011/11/28/2592337/sent-my-ucla-gear-and-a-voided-check-to-chancellor-block

ULCA Fan Burin it out!


Also, though no one cares because it's Akron, but Firing the head coach while he's in transit to go to his Mother's Funeral???

Can't you wait 2 days???

 

[cdyhybrid]

Just making sure everyone without a dog in this fight is in agreement: UCLA has to win on Saturday, right? Its just too delicious that a 7-6 UCLA will go to the Rose Bowl.

Is UCLA eligible for a bowl if they go 6-7, with the Championship game putting them under 500?

They would have to apply for a waiver from the NCAA if they end up 6-7, but I don't think they'll be doing it since they'd probably end up losing money on the Middle of Fucking Nowhere Bowl trip AND they'll be looking for a new coach.

It would be delicious if Oregon lost, though.

 

[Ganhyun]

So, who else is with me in just wanting to root for complete chaos this week?

 

[mre]

So, who else is with me in just wanting to root for complete chaos this week?

If pulling against Georgia is pulling for complete chaos, then I'm right there with you!

 

[Lonestar]

I'm ok with Georgia winning.

Biasedness commands me to include the "unless it hurts Bama" policy to this, though.

Okie, VT, Oregon, Boise, and Houston can all lose, for all I care!

 

[andycapps]

If pulling against Georgia is pulling for complete chaos, then I'm right there with you!

Oh you.

 

[ChanDangle]

UGA recruit, John Theus, just tweeted that UF just lost their recruiting coordinator, John Pantoni.

He's actually the director of football operations I found out, Aubrey Hill is the recruiting coordinator. So even better news for us. :/

 

[andycapps]

He's actually the director of football operations I found out, Aubrey Hill is the recruiting coordinator. So even better news for us. :/

Yeah whoever it was must have informed any of the kids they'd recruited that they were leaving. Was he fired or did he take a job with UM?

 

[Lonestar]

edsbs edsbs
#TROLLFEDORA RT @AA_Lew: This needs to be noted: If So. Miss beats Houston, every school in Conf. USA stands to lose $1.5MM in BCS payouts.

Need to see if there was a Southern Miss TrollFace icon