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But lending him the game benefits me because it'll be evenly matched now. He was good, but he can get better. I also told him I'd stab him if something happened to the game.

Lending this "H" whore BKO benefits me in no way.

What a good friend! D:
I would do the same...

But the whore is such a nice guy [sometimes...]
 
So... I kind of kissed the wrong guy the other night, he's ok, but I would much prefer if we just stay friends, lets hope this doesn't become a big deal.

For reference, I live in Rio, and cariocas give out kisses like nothing at clubs and parties, so it might not be a big deal, still... it just feels weird.
 
How does one kiss the wrong guy? Alcohol?

yeah pretty much. But is not just that, it was the place, I swear everyone was making out with everyone. I have to say Rio is pretty crazy in that regard, and is not only the gay places. They don't even try to chat with you for a while, they go right for the kiss, and go from one to the next like nothing, I guess I let myself get carried away by that.
 
5'4" here...don't think I'll get any taller though, but at least I've gotten a whole lot more thinner. BF says that he thinks I've gotten bigger down there too since losing all the weight *shrug* Kind of wish I would be just a tad taller, then again I kind of like it when he grabs me a carries me over his shoulder so easily...

Hey I'm 5'4 too :) It's nice being petite.
 
Older gay men are not only the best customers you can have but are also the greatest people you'll ever meet. I helped 2 fantastic gentlemen at my job the other day. Completely made my day.
 
Lord do I need a male sexual organ in my ass.

En mi cara.

yeah pretty much. But is not just that, it was the place, I swear everyone was making out with everyone. I have to say Rio is pretty crazy in that regard, and is not only the gay places. They don't even try to chat with you for a while, they go right for the kiss, and go from one to the next like nothing, I guess I let myself get carried away by that.

Sometimes this thread reminds me of how conservative I still am
 
Guys....the internet is a scary place and its full of shit you don't need to see. Scarred for life. Lesson #1 don't put where you live w/ your profile picture. I don't know if I can go to sleep.

Here is the Scenario. I was on a site that well "Caters to a niche type of people and saw my BEST FRIEND on it. I don't have a profile myself but I almost saw his. I said "oh wow he looks like my best f... wait a minute?" Then I looked at the location and yup, it was him. This is some freaky shit and I'm officially scared to go on the internet now. I just wasn't prepared for this. I mean its my BEST FRIEND. Am I over reacting? oh god why did this happen?

Where do you work?
my local mall, I work in retail for Fossil
 
Guys....the internet is a scary place and its full of shit you don't need to see. Scarred for life. Lesson #1 don't put where you live w/ your profile picture. I don't know if I can go to sleep.

Here is the Scenario. I was on a site that well "Caters to a niche type of people and saw my BEST FRIEND on it. I don't have a profile myself but I almost saw his. I said "oh wow he looks like my best f... wait a minute?" Then I looked at the location and yup, it was him. This is some freaky shit and I'm officially scared to go on the internet now. I just wasn't prepared for this. I mean its my BEST FRIEND. Am I over reacting? oh god why did this happen?

I don't understand. Are you out? Is your best friend out?
 
Do you guys find, from personal experiences, that astrology plays a part in how easily and deeply you can connect with a man?

No, but I have an Aquarius moon in the 12th house so intimacy freaks me out
j/k.

I'm vaguely interested in astrology on an archetypal level, but more so in the past than I am now, and even then I never paid much attention to synastry.

Astrology is a load of shit, so no.

I think we can learn about ourselves even from dubious mystical things. It's like using tarot cards or something as a creative aid. The set or ordering may be entirely random but it can still help us to reach some insight regardless.

But I generally prefer to remain agnostic on anything like this, granted I tend to have unconventional views in general.
 
I don't understand. Are you out? Is your best friend out?

No and No. I mean I was too scared for a confirmation of he was bi- gay- straight[which i highly doubt at this point] or whatever. It's even worse since i was ugh...
about to fap up until i saw his profile
I've known him since like 1st grade. The last thing I'm thinking him as is in a sexual way.
I always wondered if this would happen w/ people I know and kinda expected it to happen eventually, but not him of all people.
 
I think we can learn about ourselves even from dubious mystical things. It's like using tarot cards or something as a creative aid. The set or ordering may be entirely random but it can still help us to reach some insight regardless.

But I generally prefer to remain agnostic on anything like this, granted I tend to have unconventional views in general.
Yeah insight doesn't hurt if it's prompted by something, but you'd have to be pretty deluded to use any form of astrology as a guide for relationships or meeting people. It just has no basis in reality.
 
No and No. I mean I was too scared for a confirmation of he was bi- gay- straight[which i highly doubt at this point] or whatever. It's even worse since i was ugh...
about to fap up until i saw his profile
I've known him since like 1st grade. The last thing I'm thinking him as is in a sexual way.
I always wondered if this would happen w/ people I know and kinda expected it to happen eventually, but not him of all people.

I am really having a hard time seeing how any of this is bad. Now you know you have somebody there for when you need to come out or just talk, it can strengthen your friendship. But I wouldn't ask him about it

Did you see him naked? :lol
 
No, but I have an Aquarius moon in the 12th house so intimacy freaks me out
j/k.

I'm vaguely interested in astrology on an archetypal level, but more so in the past than I am now, and even then I never paid much attention to synastry.

I think we can learn about ourselves even from dubious mystical things. It's like using tarot cards or something as a creative aid. The set or ordering may be entirely random but it can still help us to reach some insight regardless.

But I generally prefer to remain agnostic on anything like this, granted I tend to have unconventional views in general.
It's hard to put faith in something like astrology, but I do find correlations between people with some of the same signs. I find that my own signs ring true, or maybe that is wishful thinking on my part.

julls said:
Yeah insight doesn't hurt if it's prompted by something, but you'd have to be pretty deluded to use any form of astrology as a guide for relationships or meeting people. It just has no basis in reality.

I wouldn't say I use astrology as a guide for relationships, but I like to know just to see how things play out.
 
I am really having a hard time seeing how any of this is bad. Now you know you have somebody there for when you need to come out. But I wouldn't ask him about it
That certainly is true and thats the only good I see in this.If anything he will need me more than him since i'm starting to comeout starting with my job but thats another story. I might post that tmr. It's kinda funny

Did you see him naked
No but I almost did, and i did see him topless.

Edit: I feel weird because realistically, I accidentally snooped in on his own privacy. I would never ever want to do that to anyone let alone my best friend and I wouldn't want that happening to me back which is why i feel kinda bad. In some ways it was suggested that he wasn't straight so just in case I always made it clear that I supported anything LGBT related.
 
Yeah insight doesn't hurt if it's prompted by something, but you'd have to be pretty deluded to use any form of astrology as a guide for relationships or meeting people. It just has no basis in reality.

I agree, but I'd generally say that anyone using any kind of predictive measure is doing it wrong. I almost wouldn't bother to make the differentiation on whether the system itself is valid as even a valid system is going to have innumerable exceptions.

I interpreted his comment in more of a "confirmation bias" way, though. Like say he noticed a connection with someone and then connected it to astrology after the fact.

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It's hard to put faith in something like astrology, but I do find correlations between people with some of the same signs. I find that my own signs ring true, or maybe that is wishful thinking on my part.

I do, too. I kind of have a penchant for seeing connections (Pisces sun, lol) but I've become less indulgent with it considering the potential for apophenia. If I weren't a Buddhist I'd probably still be interested in all kinds of things like that tbh. I used to be rather interested in the occult and esotericism as a teenager. I've probably explored most fringe belief systems at one time or another (Gnosticism, Discordianism, Luciferianism, chaos magic, etc, etc), so I'm not at all a stranger to 'trying on' unconventional viewpoints, but it seems like most tend to result in a dead-end ime.

Actually it's not even that I've 'outgrown' mysticism as such, but rather that my motive is now more for the supermundane (ie: Buddhist enlightenment/cessation of suffering) rather than the mundane.
 
I agree, but I'd generally say that anyone using any kind of predictive measure is doing it wrong. I almost wouldn't bother to make the differentiation on whether the system itself is valid as even a valid system is going to have innumerable exceptions.

I interpreted his comment in more of a "confirmation bias" way, though. Like say he noticed a connection with someone and then connected it to astrology after the fact.

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I do, too. I kind of have a penchant for seeing connections (Pisces sun, lol) but I've become less indulgent with it considering the potential for apophenia. If I weren't a Buddhist I'd probably still be interested in all kinds of things like that tbh. I used to be rather interested in the occult and esotericism as a teenager. I've probably explored most fringe belief systems at one time or another (Gnosticism, Discordianism, Luciferianism, chaos magic, etc, etc).
Are Astrology and Buddhism mutually exclusive? Okay, so here's the thing, I haven't met a Pisces I don't get along with smashingly. On the other hand, Aquarius and Leo for the most part I butt heads with because they like to tell me what to do and there's nothing in the world I hate more (Scorpio sun). I mean, I don't think I'm causing problems intentionally (lol) with those signs and seeing the good in Pisceans. Even before I knew anything about astrology I found out what signs my current friends and former friends' signs are, and all my Pisces friends I've been able to get really close to, or more easily than others. I also feel like a big brother when I'm around a Pisces... Apophenia... stap it.
 
Are Astrology and Buddhism mutually exclusive?

Not exactly, I believe some Tibetan Buddhists may practice astrology for example, but I think it can present unnecessary elaboration on experience. It's like kind of for the same reason that Buddhists tend to totally disregard the question of God. If one's goal is to realize the unconditioned nature of experience, any sort of mental 'system' can just be so much more junk to clear away so bare experience can be realized.

Okay, so here's the thing, I haven't met a Pisces I don't get along with smashingly. On the other hand, Aquarius and Leo for the most part I butt heads with because they like to tell me what to do and there's nothing in the world I hate more (Scorpio sun). I mean, I don't think I'm causing problems intentionally (lol) with those signs and seeing the good in Pisceans. Even before I knew anything about astrology I found out what signs my current friends and former friends' signs are, and all my Pisces friends I've been able to get really close to, or more easily than others. I also feel like a big brother when I'm around a Pisces... Apophenia... stap it.

Yeah, I find that I tend to get along with Scorpios as well so I know what you mean. I definitely have the Piscean tendency to be somewhat pliant and to put others first, but at the same time intimacy freaks me out and I'm only really skilled at or willing to be 'friendly' with people. I also have an Aries ascendant so my personality is kind of all over the place, and I find that I don't really get along with anyone that well because these conflicts in temperament (passive/emotional-cerebral/aloof-spontaneous/warlike) introduce too much weird volatility :P
 

LMFAO Jesus Christ.... well, while it wasn't a furry site, he is a big Sonic fan, he does draws anthropomorphic characters on occasion. and that site definitely had some furries on it.

Actually a long time ago I asked if he considered himself a furry and It kinda offended him. This was when I thought furries just meant drawing or really liking anthropomorphic stuff, not well... the other stuff. I don't think he's into the suit and tail stuff but who knows at this point.
 
LMFAO Jesus Christ.... well, while it wasn't a furry site, he is a big Sonic fan, he does draws anthropomorphic characters on occasion. and that site definitely had some furries on it.

Actually a long time ago I asked if he considered himself a furry and It kinda offended him. This was when I thought furries just meant drawing or really liking anthropomorphic stuff, not well... the other stuff. I don't think he's into the suit and tail stuff but who knows at this point.
That is what furry means... Well, it's a huge umbrella term, but generally that's what it means. Within the whole furry community, very few furries actually wear fursuits. I certainly don't. I do have a tail, but I rarely wear it.

...Don't tell me that furries aren't generally accepted among GayGAF, either... Aren't us gays supposed to be more open minded than most people? And not to mention that a very large part of the furry community (probably more than half) is gay...
 
Ouch. I guess I did it again huh. I didn't mean anything in a negative way but re reading it, my post did come off a tad bit douchey. My original point was that I accidentally called him out and probably made him feel a tad bit uncomfortable because I didn't know any better. The rest of my post was pretty much unnecessary and irrelevant to my situation. Sorry dude as well as anyone else that may take my words to heart.

Im taking this event into a new light. I'd explain more but it's almost 4am here and I got work at 9 am so I'll talk more before or after work.
 
Ouch. I guess I did it again huh. I didn't mean anything in a negative way but re reading it, my post did come off a tad bit douchey. My original point was that I called him out accidentally and probably made him feel a tad bit uncomfortable. The test of my post was pretty much irrelevant and unnecessary. Sorry dude.
Haha, don't worry, I understand. I didn't really take your post in a negative way, I was just correcting your definition of furry. It seems that everyone has their own misconception of what "furry" is, and that's probably why furries are always looked at in a negative light. But, yeah, I understand the point you were trying to get across.
 
Edit: I feel weird because realistically, I accidentally snooped in on his own privacy. I would never ever want to do that to anyone let alone my best friend and I wouldn't want that happening to me back which is why i feel kinda bad. In some ways it was suggested that he wasn't straight so just in case I always made it clear that I supported anything LGBT related.

No, you didn't. Your friend should be completely aware of the implications of posting a face pic to one of these pages, being the most obvious being recongnised by people close to you.
 
No, you didn't. Your friend should be completely aware of the implications of posting a face pic to one of these pages, being the most obvious being recongnised by people close to you.

this thread (and the superior Queer thread) will come back to haunt us all.
 
Do you guys find, from personal experiences, that astrology plays a part in how easily and deeply you can connect with a man?
I'd just as soon trace connect-the-dot pictures on the face of the moon with my finger. If contrivances be our guide, why not make your own?
 
No, but I have an Aquarius moon in the 12th house so intimacy freaks me out
j/k.

I'm vaguely interested in astrology on an archetypal level, but more so in the past than I am now, and even then I never paid much attention to synastry.



I think we can learn about ourselves even from dubious mystical things. It's like using tarot cards or something as a creative aid. The set or ordering may be entirely random but it can still help us to reach some insight regardless.

But I generally prefer to remain agnostic on anything like this, granted I tend to have unconventional views in general.

Oh I think is the same, the whole thing is fascinating from that point of view, but it has been debunked several times in the past, so my brain can only see it as a distraction, a really engaging fairy tale. There ought to be some effect biologically that affects you depending in which time of the year you were born, even more for you people with seasons, but I guess the effect is minimal and ultimately irrelevant in defining your personality.
 
Why would there be any biological effect depending on tw season you're born? Lol.
Seriously people basing themselves on astrological signs to know if they're gonna get along with others or to find reasons why is a tad sad. Tere's no other reason that these people being awesome/dicks.
 
There is one. Although no one seems to want to join in anymore :P

I did, but all my advances were ignored.

We should get a tinychat or something going one day

Check if they're hot.

oh... they are. It's weird because I added them right after I saw the flirty tweets and they followed me back. Only thing on my mind:

When-People-Flirt-With-Someone-You-Love_e3951acd93d9dfd23b37b622fadc6e8f.jpg
 
Maybe it is confirmation bias on my part, but gay men tend to believe in psuedoscientific bullshit like astrology far more than straight men.


It's hard to put faith in something like astrology, but I do find correlations between people with some of the same signs. I find that my own signs ring true, or maybe that is wishful thinking on my part.

I'll take "what is confirmation bias" for 1000.

http://www.skepdic.com/astrolgy.html

The most popular form of traditional Western astrology is sun sign astrology, the kind found in the horoscopes of many daily newspapers. A horoscope is an astrological forecast. The term is also used to describe a map of the zodiac at the time of one’s birth. The zodiac is divided into twelve zones of the sky, each named after the constellation that originally fell within its zone (Taurus, Leo, etc.). The apparent paths of the Sun, the Moon, and the major planets all fall within the zodiac. Because of the precession of the equinoxes, the equinox and solstice points have each moved westward about 30 degrees in the last 2,000 years. Thus, the zodiacal constellations named in ancient times no longer correspond to the segments of the zodiac represented by their signs. In short, had you been born at the same time on the same day of the year 2,000 years ago, you would have been born under a different sign.

Also given how vague horoscopes are I'm not surprised you find it rings true.

http://www.skepdic.com/forer.html
 
So when is the right time to have a boy sleep over?

I've never thought it was a big deal, and even now, I already slept over at his place (well, I was pretty drunk), but he wont stay at mine "at this stage of dating."
 
Maybe it is confirmation bias on my part, but gay men tend to believe in psuedoscientific bullshit like astrology far more than straight men.

Women are the worst at this.

I was bored once and flipped through some of my mum's magazines. EVERY single ad for the 5 advert pages at the back was for Horoscope/astrology/mediumship/psychic scams.

There wasn't a single advert there that wasn't something like that.
 
So when is the right time to have a boy sleep over?

I've never thought it was a big deal, and even now, I already slept over at his place (well, I was pretty drunk), but he wont stay at mine "at this stage of dating."

I guess the ideal time would be since the first time you have sex.
 
Maybe it is confirmation bias on my part, but gay men tend to believe in psuedoscientific bullshit like astrology far more than straight men.

Lol, who said anything about it being scientific? It's about as 'scientific' as Jung's personality theory or MBTI, meaning likely purely theoretical or mystical bullshit but still not without some use.

I'll take "what is confirmation bias" for 1000.

http://www.skepdic.com/astrolgy.html



Also given how vague horoscopes are I'm not surprised you find it rings true.

http://www.skepdic.com/forer.html

That's why I follow Sidereal astrology :P Tropical astrology has me as an Aries which makes no fucking sense to me. The archetypes used in astrology are actually a lot more specific than the Forer effect would suggest, which only someone lacking in self-knowledge would identify with. I don't really think you can claim to know how well people understand themselves from a position of total ignorance as to their character, at least in my case and using the people I know as an average I tend to have a more finely cultivated intrapersonal understanding than most people. And the people I know are likely skewed well above average themselves.

I'd just as soon trace connect-the-dot pictures on the face of the moon with my finger. If contrivances be our guide, why not make your own?

Because existing systems may presumably have experienced the benefits of trial and error? :P I agree with that in terms of belief systems a la Blake (“I must create my own system, or be enslav'd by another man's") but I don't think hardly anyone really takes astrology that seriously, it's just an archetypal system intended to address personality.
 
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