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I for one am wondering if the new Admirals are gonna be Titans on the same level Of Kizaru and Aokiji. Given that two years has past I can see Smoker being close to those levels now I we know that Coby will eventually become an Admiral someday though I don't think that would be the case yet.

So now we have retired Titans from the Marine- Garp, Aokiji and Sengoku.
 
I love how Luffy doesn't give a shit about Blackbeard lol

Was abit confused about the ending? Big Mam is going to attack the island cause the Strawhats ate the candy?

Garp is another Vice Admiral that needed to be replaced since the time skip. But I don't think we'll see much focus on the VA's.

I'm expecting Aokiji to link up with the Revolutionaries

I believed it was mentioned that she's the kind of person who would destroy an entire Island for sweet, If she doe attack and have a showdown with the Strawhats it will given reason for Luffy's name to hit the big time (again) or if she's Lola's mom like people are thinking we could see some interaction with Nami at the very least.
 
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I'm actually really curious about this all, because as things stand the marines have had:

2 admiral spots to refill

3 shichibukai positions to refill

probably a bunch of fleet admiral/rear admiral spots to refill too.



Now last we saw them Smoker was a commodore, that's pretty much 3 ranks below Admiral.

Though it was a well known fact he easily could've gone up in rank if he actually bothered to try, right? He already denied a request for promition once, so technically he was at least qualified to be rear admiral around Arabasta.


One thing I'm mostly curious about is if these holes will be filled largely by familiar/important faces, or by obscure or new characters alltogether.

A few of the vice admirals are extremely Akainu-like in personality (Onigumo and Doberman being the most prominent ones, iirc)
so logically speaking I could imagine Akainu, if it's his decision, promoting these types of character to admiral rank.

Would Smoker be okay with this? Isn't he completely disinterested in reaching high ranks?

One of the Warlord spots is filled by Buggy, so that leaves two more. I't unlikely there's a set number of positions to be filled outside of Admiral, so we shouldn't really bother worrying about any of the lower ranks.

While those two seem pretty Akainu-like, they're not exactly all that strong and are unlikely to serve as a deterrent to piracy in the same way the old Admirals did.

I'd imagine that Smoker would take a promotion if it meant he got to roam around the New world as he wished. Especially if it was one he earned through his own efforts.

I love how Luffy doesn't give a shit about Blackbeard lol

Was abit confused about the ending? Big Mam is going to attack the island cause the Strawhats ate the candy?

Yes. Big mam/mom charges Fishman Island a candy tax, so she will most likely wreck shop if they can't pay.



EDIT: I forgot to mention this, but Oda totally sank Shirahoshi's chances of joining the Strawhats this chapter. If the secret of the Mystical Ageing Box were the energy pills Hody's gang ate, then there's no way left for Shirahoshi to prematurely age up and split her tail to walk on land. Yay!
 
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After reading a better translation of the chapter I wanted to mention another small thing that stood out to me.


Jimbe mentioned the government got "special power" from the government to strenghten it.

We've been discussing a lot about promotions and characters we know rising in ranks to fill spots, but by the sound of it we might actually see the marine's greatest increase in strenght coming directly from above, the government itself.

I was wondering how any new marines of significant power could possibly be justified, but what do we really know about the highest of the high when it comes to the marines?

We know about the five elder stars and that dude who had a conversation with DonFlamingo, but anything and everything around them has been largely unexplained or shown.

The extra enpowerment from the government itself might imply that we'll delve a lot deeper into this dark subsection of the government from now on.
 
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Zeo is hilarious.

Akainu being made Fleet Admiral was obvious, but the way it went down was crazy. I really hope we see more of the fight at some point.

I'm curious to see who the new admirals will be. It seems a little to early for Smoker to be an admiral, I'd guess he's a vice admiral at the moment. I'd like to see Magellan as an admiral. He's strong and has a good reason to accept such a position (hunt down and recapture all the criminals who escaped Impel Down).
 
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I'm curious to see who the new admirals will be. It seems a little to early for Smoker to be an admiral, I'd guess he's a vice admiral at the moment. I'd like to see Magellan as an admiral. He's strong and has a good reason to accept such a position (hunt down and recapture all the criminals who escaped Impel Down).

Good call, Magellan was bloody insane, he'd do great as an admiral.
 
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I don´t think the navy is stronger now like the chapter said. The navy lost Sengoku, Garp, and Aokiji. These 3 are really hard to replace. Anyway, i really don´t like the characterization of big mom. Invade a country to get candy? Ridiculous.
I expected the remaining WB pirates to at least maintain a fraction of WB´s territory. I guess they are useless without WB.

I expected BB to be a yonku.
 
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After reading a better translation of the chapter I wanted to mention another small thing that stood out to me.


Jimbe mentioned the government got "special power" from the government to strenghten it.

We've been discussing a lot about promotions and characters we know rising in ranks to fill spots, but by the sound of it we might actually see the marine's greatest increase in strenght coming directly from above, the government itself.

I was wondering how any new marines of significant power could possibly be justified, but what do we really know about the highest of the high when it comes to the marines?

We know about the five elder stars and that dude who had a conversation with DonFlamingo, but anything and everything around them has been largely unexplained or shown.

The extra enpowerment from the government itself might imply that we'll delve a lot deeper into this dark subsection of the government from now on.
Well obviously Marines are just one section. You'd imagine they have an army for the main continent (the Red Line) of the One Piece world. IIRC that's where the war on the revolutionaries is being waged.
 
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Zeo is hilarious.

Akainu being made Fleet Admiral was obvious, but the way it went down was crazy. I really hope we see more of the fight at some point.

I'm curious to see who the new admirals will be. It seems a little to early for Smoker to be an admiral, I'd guess he's a vice admiral at the moment. I'd like to see Magellan as an admiral. He's strong and has a good reason to accept such a position (hunt down and recapture all the criminals who escaped Impel Down).

I was thinking the same thing about Magellan getting his redemption by becoming an admiral. We can't say its too soon for smoker to be an admiral anymore because it's been two years. Hell, I'm sure even Coby and helmeppo are high up in ranks already
 
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I don´t think the navy is stronger now like the chapter said. The navy lost Sengoku, Garp, and Aokiji. These 3 are really hard to replace. Anyway, i really don´t like the characterization of big mom. Invade a country to get candy? Ridiculous.
I expected the remaining WB pirates to at least maintain a fraction of WB´s territory. I guess they are useless without WB.

The chapter specifically mentioned the government itself gave the marines extra power, we know very very little about the government aside from one or two small things, but I'm sure they wouldn't get away with their absolutely atrocious "we do what we want"-mentality if they didn't house an insane level of power that even the top marines (like sengoku and aokiji) feared.
 
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I don´t think the navy is stronger now like the chapter said. The navy lost Sengoku, Garp, and Aokiji. These 3 are really hard to replace. Anyway, i really don´t like the characterization of big mom. Invade a country to get candy? Ridiculous.
I expected the remaining WB pirates to at least maintain a fraction of WB´s territory. I guess they are useless without WB.

I expected BB to be a yonku.

I don't see how that ridiculous people with power do what ever they want.
People in the real world have been kill for less .
She protects the country if she gets candy if not she going to destroy it .
 
I get that, I'm just confused about what happened to the candy?
The Strawhats ate it during the party.

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We've been discussing a lot about promotions and characters we know rising in ranks to fill spots, but by the sound of it we might actually see the marine's greatest increase in strenght coming directly from above, the government itself.
This was hinted at when Sentomaru announced that he was formally part of the Marines now. I think for the most part though this will just mean that we see more Marines using CP9 techniques and more World Government agents in the plot. But who knows?

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Zeo is hilarious.

Akainu being made Fleet Admiral was obvious, but the way it went down was crazy. I really hope we see more of the fight at some point.

I'm curious to see who the new admirals will be. It seems a little to early for Smoker to be an admiral, I'd guess he's a vice admiral at the moment. I'd like to see Magellan as an admiral. He's strong and has a good reason to accept such a position (hunt down and recapture all the criminals who escaped Impel Down).

bu, but Magellan's not a logia...


Also, there's no way Coby is any higher than a Captain. Remember that Akainu tried to kill him once.
 
Good call, Magellan was bloody insane, he'd do great as an admiral.
I'd easily have him up there with any of the admirals. Guy was deadset insane. An entire prison of some of the strongest criminals ever couldn't even touch him. He one-shotted Blackbeard and his whole crew

I really, really hope he is in the future of the series
 
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OMG it's Sasuke. The colour spread in the beginning is pretty badass.

Good chapter. Good to see the beasts transforming and fighting.
 
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That was an interesting chapter. I hope the admirals fight gets animated and not just a one second clip like the manga. Curious still as to how the prediction from the past will come to light.
 
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That was awesome. Blackbeard being an Emperor is obvious, but it seems that his ability can get more powers now? I wonder who will be his next target.

Aokiji vs Akainu is badass. I want a fucking flashback to that fight when teh SH meet Aokiji again. Now that he has gone rogue, do you guys think he will form a pirate crew or is he joining up with someone?

Plus there is also the new power the marines need in order to match up with the pirates along with who will fill the admirals position. Magellan is a pretty good choice. That guy is a beast.

Oh yeah, the side effects of the steroids were hilarious. That solves the whole problem of them breaking out of prison and causing a riot again.
 
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There were people doing stuff, and I didn't like it because it isn't what I would have written. And the drawings were bad. And Kishimoto promised me a pony. And I didn't read the chapter.
 
I'd easily have him up there with any of the admirals. Guy was deadset insane. An entire prison of some of the strongest criminals ever couldn't even touch him. He one-shotted Blackbeard and his whole crew

I really, really hope he is in the future of the series

Technically speaking he did leave Impel Down to Hanyaball, so he could leave the prison and leave Hanyaball as the new warden.


Honestly, I hadn't really considered it, but Magellan is easily one of the only marine/government characters insanely strong enough to inflict as much damage as the other admirals.

Sure he might not be a logia, but he still has one of the most lethal and scary devil fruits around.


Next to that, with Akainu in charge I doubt the marines need prisons as badly anymore, they can just kill every pirate on sight. :p



Don't see how he was equal to them , he is not a logia , never saw him do any CP9 moves and never saw him use haki .

In terms of sheer killing power, he's got the strongest DF out there.

He only needs to get a single splat on you, and you're poisoned.
 
I think Oda has played on the 'main enemies white eyeing and then the feast' One Piece formula and shit is actually about to get real for Fishman Island Part Deux. Dat prophecy...
 
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There were people doing stuff, and I didn't like it because it isn't what I would have written. And the drawings were bad. And Kishimoto promised me a pony. And I didn't read the chapter.

Well it's obvious that you didn't read the chapter otherwise you would have seen the pony my good sir.
 
Don't see how he was equal to them , he is not a logia , never saw him do any CP9 moves and never saw him use haki .



All was said that he was defeated by level 6 people i think .

Never saw any of the other Admirals do either too (doesn't mean they can't).

Plus the guy was clearly a monster on their level with how hard everybody had to try just to run away from him.
 
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Aokiji vs Akainu is badass. I want a fucking flashback to that fight when teh SH meet Aokiji again. Now that he has gone rogue, do you guys think he will form a pirate crew or is he joining up with someone?
I like to imagine he travels from island to island on his bike helping people with their problems :)
 
That is not true at all , the 3 admirals have way more killing power .

The 3 admirals have much better defence due to being Logia users and have far superior hand to hand skills.

Next to that wouldn't it surprise me if at least 2 out of 3 admirals could resist the potion due to the nature of their logia power.



however when it comes to purely talking about the DF in terms of how easily it can kill someone, or a group when the person using it has equal skill? Sorry, Magellan wins hands down.



Remember that time when Aokiji attacked the straw hats and froze half of them over? That didn't inflict much permanent damage, did it? Magellan would've poisoned every single person touched in that fight.

And not just that, he also would've poisoned every single one who touched the poison-covered people.

The strawhats would've ended right there.



In the same vein, as powerful as Akainu is, most people who got hit by him in a non-lethal way got a nasty scar or wound, but hey, they still lived without ivankov's hax hormone powers.


Magellan's power is almost literally you touch it in any way at all, you die, that's a pretty damn intense sheer killing potential.



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Even someone like Handcock hit you with arrow you dead .

We've seen plenty of strong willed people survive Hancock's power with ease, her power is only instant kill against low level baddies.


The only counter we've seen against Magellan is Ivankov's deus ex machina power.
 
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Great chapter, sans the art in the colors pages. Kishimoto needs to learn anotomy 101 cause the art in both the color page and colorspread is wonky as fuck and don't follow any rules of human anatomy, nor does it follow when Kish draws his characters normally. Aside from that I really enjoyed this chapter as it brought more ambiguity to the Nine-tails as a character in the series, and for the first time in a while it seems we're getting character development in the series which even when abysmal (Sasuke) is still long missed and more refreshing than the boring fights we've been getting.

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Fantastic chapter showcasing what One Piece does best, which is world building and making it's setting interesting and ambitious. After a year of this arc One Piece finally goes back to proper form and hopefully the next arc will deliver. I thought Hody's crew becoming old men gave them more character than they deserved and I wouldn't mind if they escaped and pursued the Strawhats for the lulz.

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You know when Ginjou was struggling I thought, "Maybe Kubo Tite learned from his past mistakes and will continue to make engaging pages in Bleach." and then, Tsukishima jumped from behind Ichigo with REACTION FACE. I swear Kubo has to have copy and pasted that exact face for everytime someone appears behind a character.

But this Bleach...I'm not really sure to think about it. It's kind of a meh chapter. I don't understand how Ichigo "saved" Ginjou, and why Riruka is all against killing Shinigami all of a sudden. I feel like this little plot of them being sympathetic is shoe-horned in the respect that Kubo should've never had them fight Shinigami, which would've made this arc more interesting if they transitioned from being Ichigo's friends, to having a past (similar to Vizards). Save the fights for when they fight the Spirit King's army.
 
We saw the admirals use Haki and Aokiji used what looking like Soru at being of the war arc .

When?

I think a lot of the reason for doubting Magellan lies with he fact that he eventually got beaten but remember how he said he had an ability that if he was to used it would destroy the entire Impel Down?

Plus I am willing to bet that all of the top tier strong willed characters has some form of Haki hell even Enel did way back when.
 
Magellan becoming an admiral would be great, and it would fit into the theme of Hannyabal becoming the chief warden of Impel Down.

The third admiral is hard to say. Will probably be someone new.

On the other hand, doubt Magellan has any kind of Haki, so maybe he is not fit for the position.
 
The 3 admirals have much better defence due to being Logia users and have far superior hand to hand skills.

Next to that wouldn't it surprise me if at least 2 out of 3 admirals could resist the potion due to the nature of their logia power.



however when it comes to purely talking about the DF in terms of how easily it can kill someone, or a group when the person using it has equal skill? Sorry, Magellan wins hands down.



Remember that time when Aokiji attacked the straw hats and froze half of them over? That didn't inflict much permanent damage, did it? Magellan would've poisoned every single person touched in that fight.

And not just that, he also would've poisoned every single one who touched the poison-covered people.

The strawhats would've ended right there.



In the same vein, as powerful as Akainu is, most people who got hit by him in a non-lethal way got a nasty scar or wound, but hey, they still lived without ivankov's hax hormone powers.


Magellan's power is almost literally you touch it in any way at all, you die, that's a pretty damn intense sheer killing potential.





We've seen plenty of strong willed people survive Hancock's power with ease, her power is only instant kill against low level baddies.


The only counter we've seen against Magellan is Ivankov's deus ex machina power.

I am talking about slave arrow and we new saw any body got hit by that and live.
Come on we all know the only reason people survive Akainu power is because of plot armor.
Also if Aokiji wanted he could kill the SH at the same time but he stop .
Still it not going to debate this anymore make .

When?

I think a lot of the reason for doubting Magellan lies with he fact that he eventually got beaten but remember how he said he had an ability that if he was to used it would destroy the entire Impel Down?

Plus I am willing to bet that all of the top tier strong willed characters has some form of Haki hell even Enel did way back when.

When they stop WB power from hitting Ace platform during the war .
 
Magellan becoming an admiral would be great, and it would fit into the theme of Hannyabal becoming the chief warden of Impel Down.

The third admiral is hard to say. Will probably be someone new.

On the other hand, doubt Magellan has any kind of Haki, so maybe he is not fit for the position.
The third admiral will be Coby all buffed up after 2 years of training, just watch.

Any predictions for the Shichibukai? Personally I think Oda could go back to animal theme so I could see someone like Foxy/Kuro/other animal themed characters returning as a Shichibukai.
 
The third admiral will be Coby all buffed up after 2 years of training, just watch.

Any predictions for the Shichibukai? Personally I think Oda could go back to animal theme so I could see someone like Foxy returning as a Shichibukai.

Coby isn't that strong yet. He will probably be strong and able to use his haki well, but not admiral level.
 
Coby isn't that strong yet. He will probably be strong and able to use his haki well, but not admiral level.
Well you kind of have to think about it in One Piece time. The entirety of the first part of One Piece is often speculated to be less than a year in the very least, or a couple of months (so it could be less than HALF a year). So if you take in account that Coby became the way he did in the span of weeks practically, two years could do a lot to a single character.
 
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GODA. So much interesting shit, just through talking. I can totally see Magellan becoming an Admiral. He may not be a Logia, but he might as well be with how broken he is. I can also see Smoker also being promoted.

Teach is an Emperor now. Big Mam is pissed the SH stole her candy. Akainu is fleet admiral and Aokiji is no longer a marine. The Energy Steroids were the Tatakaaoaodifuaosduf Box thing's aging powers. Caribou finally showed up. YOUR ANUS HAS THE POWER TO DESTROY THE WORLD.

Wow.
 
I am talking about slave arrow and we new saw any body got hit by that and live.
Come on we all know the only reason people survive Akainu power is because of plot armor.
Also if Aokiji wanted he could kill the SH at the same time but he stop .
Still it not going to debate this anymore make .



When they stop WB power from hitting Ace platform during the war .

That looked like some random bs power to me, but hey it might have been, Still my point stands a lot of the people who undoubtedly have Haki rarely seem to use it so it isn't out of the question that Magellan has it, besides with such a baller power like he has one would hardly have any great need to use Haki.
 
Well you kind of have to think about it in One Piece time. The entirety of the first part of One Piece is often speculated to be less than a year in the very least, or a couple of months (so it could be less than HALF a year). So if you take in account that Coby became the way he did in the span of weeks practically, two years could do a lot to a single character.

Cody dream is to become admiral that not going to happen at the half way point in the manga .
Also Coby has the grow with Luffy him being a admiral would make him one of the strongest people in the OP world .
Luffy is still not a Yonko level i would think so until he beat one Coby not going to be stronger than him.

That looked like some random bs power to me, but hey it might have been, Still my point stands a lot of the people who undoubtedly have Haki rarely seem to use it so it isn't out of the question that Magellan has it, besides with such a baller power like he has one would hardly have any great need to use Haki.

It look like a BS power until ray explain it and i expect we going to see haki much more now that it fully explain .
Just look at luffy he using Haki so much after the time skip .
 
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They predicted that Luffy would destroy the island.

Big Mom will destroy the island if she doesn't get her candy.

Luffy and crew (mostly Chopper, probably!) are eating all of her candy.

It all makes sense now.
 
Coby will become an admiral in the epilogue of the series.

No way he is climbing too far into the marine ladder with Akainu at the head.
 
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