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One Piece

Great chapter as usual (then again I actually enjoyed Fishmen Island) but I do love the world-building bits.

Everything else has been mentioned, but I do wonder what "Uranus" is. We know Pluton existed and the blueprints for it were destroyed, and that Shirahoshi is Poseidon.

So now we wonder who the two new Admirals are, as well as the three new Warlords.
 
I am talking about slave arrow and we new saw any body got hit by that and live.

I don't think we've seen anyone particularly worthwhile get hit by it, if you go by the sheer result of what happens to random nobodies even Usopp's slingshot is a dangerous weapon.

One problem I have with the example of Boa Hancock is that, truth to be told, we know far too little about her power to really go into depth about how deadly it is.

The turning to stone is largely lust-driven right? This brings up the question of why she's also capable of turning something like a canonball to stone.

If you're right and her slave arrows are indeed a type of instant death to anything and anyone attack, yeah, it'd be one of the best killing moves in the series.

I tend to see any of her attacks more like Perona's though, they destroy weak-willed characters completely, but when it comes to fighting people that really matter, their effectiveness wanes.

If Boa Hancock's Slave arrow would work on someone like Whitebeard or Shanks, for example, this'd automatically mean that Perona would be super top tier as well.


Come on we all know the only reason people survive Akainu power is because of plot armor.

Luffy and blackbeard surviving Magellan's poison is plot armor as well.

If we're gonna argue in terms of plot armor.

To survive a hit from Akainu you just need plot armor.

To survive a hit from Magellan you need plot armor and a deus ex machina.


Also if Aokiji wanted he could kill the SH at the same time but he stop .

What I'm saying is, if Magellan had done exactly the same thing, the straw hats would've died faster and without any hope. I'm not arguing Aokiji couldn't have killed them all, I'm saying that under the exact same circumstances, the straw hats would've died with magellan.


Still it not going to debate this anymore make .

That's fine, I like having the last word.
 
OP

Fukaboshi being boss.

"All I ask.. is that you silence yourself."

Goddamn.

Stuff about Aokiji were pretty crazy and as some suspected, the arc ain't over yet.
 
Luffy and blackbeard surviving Magellan's poison is plot armor as well.

If we're gonna argue in terms of plot armor.

To survive a hit from Akainu you just need plot armor.

To survive a hit from Magellan you need plot armor and a deus ex machina.

Was going to stop but just one more point when it comes to this .
If you get hit by Akainu without plot armor your dead.
If you get hit by Magellan without plot armor your still going to live if you get a doctor \ antidote .
So when comes to killing someone Akainu got that .

Now you can get the last word lol.
 
Was going to stop but just one more point when it comes to this .
If you get hit by Akainu without plot armor your dead.
If you get hit by Magellan without plot armor you still going to live if you get a doctor \ antidote .
So when comes to killing someone Akainu got that .

Just saying it doesn't make it true, y'know?


I don't see what's so hard to understand.

If Akainu only splashes some magma on your arm, you'll survive it.

Even if you're not important, you'll survive it as long as no further attacks ensue.

I don't see where plot armor comes into the picture.
 
naruto Pretty good. I wish Sasuke would die in a fire. Gai and Kakashi are surprise surprise useless as hell.

bleach Oh Aizen-lite is still alive after his heart exploded. And now a flashback. This arc started good turned to boring.

One Piece So Big Man is heading to FI? The SHs are in huge trouble then.
 

They used haki to stop WB from destroying the whole island.

Bleach C

You know when Ginjou was struggling I thought, "Maybe Kubo Tite learned from his past mistakes and will continue to make engaging pages in Bleach." and then, Tsukishima jumped from behind Ichigo with REACTION FACE. I swear Kubo has to have copy and pasted that exact face for everytime someone appears behind a character.

But this Bleach...I'm not really sure to think about it. It's kind of a meh chapter. I don't understand how Ichigo "saved" Ginjou, and why Riruka is all against killing Shinigami all of a sudden. I feel like this little plot of them being sympathetic is shoe-horned in the respect that Kubo should've never had them fight Shinigami, which would've made this arc more interesting if they transitioned from being Ichigo's friends, to having a past (similar to Vizards). Save the fights for when they fight the Spirit King's army.

It´s not literal. It was more that Ichigo changed Ginjou´s mind about revenge. They could not change his mind since they are not sub shinigami like Ichigo.
 
Just saying it doesn't make it true, y'know?


I don't see what's so hard to understand.

If Akainu only splashes some magma on your arm, you'll survive it.

Even if you're not important, you'll survive it as long as no further attacks ensue.

I don't see where plot armor comes into the picture.

I don't call a splash a attack but you are right about that .
 
I wonder how much plot armor the Caribou pirates needed to survive being ejected from their ship several thousand feet down and making it back to the surface without drowning...
 
I don't call a splash a attack but you are right about that .

Except when Magellan splashes you, that's enough to kill you.

This is exactly what I've been trying to say, something that wouldn't be considered an attack for pretty much every single other character can be considered a killing move if Magellan does it.
 
Eh I don't think Big Mam will beat up Luffy I find it more likely she's gonna to fall in line with him pretty well like most characters do. She's probably gonna find out he helped her daughter and she'll be so happy that she'll help them out somehow or another, like getting through Marine forces that are heading straight towards Fishman Island
 
Blackbeard collecting abilities line just made me realize that he is the only one in his crew who actually have a devil fruit.

I think it's safe to say that they will have an abilities for the final climatic battle. Some might have them already and he purposely didnt revealed them or... and this is where it gets fun...

They are looking all over the new world to steal known abilities from existing established character. Blackbeard's crew could decide individually which power they want, go after it and steal it the same way BB did. Ex. Laffite decide he wants the invisibility fruit so the whole crew goes after the Absalom, kill him etc. We now have invisible Laffite.


On a different subject, we now have a different way (beside Bonney) to age Shirahoshi above 30, making her useful outside water. I could see Caribou feed her a steroid pill (just 1) and well.. you can guess the rest.
 
Naruto B

Great chapter, sans the art in the colors pages. Kishimoto needs to learn anotomy 101 cause the art in both the color page and colorspread is wonky as fuck and don't follow any rules of human anatomy, nor does it follow when Kish draws his characters normally. Aside from that I really enjoyed this chapter as it brought more ambiguity to the Nine-tails as a character in the series, and for the first time in a while it seems we're getting character development in the series which even when abysmal (Sasuke) is still long missed and more refreshing than the boring fights we've been getting.
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Wrong wrong fucking wrong. you need to learn anatomy because you are just speaking absolute nonsense. The proportions in both the color page and spread were perfect, I'd like you to point out what the fuck is wrong because.
 
Naruto

Top notch chapter. I'm genuinely pleased that Kakashi is tangoing with a bunch of V2 bijuus and providing tactical analysis' instead of uttering "urgh i'm out of chakra" shtick. I loved how that one bijuu host decided to straight up attack Tobi, what a boss. It's also cool how Kishi has shown us 3 more fully transformed bijuus. I don't care, i'm fucking glad that the Kyuubi stopped guzzling Naruto's chakra. He should have more energy now, and i'm guessing he'll be the spotlight of the next chakra. As an interesting aside, Kyuubi is the high school jock who picked on the Shukaku.

Bleach

It's official, Tite Kubo cannot draw fights anymore. He can't, he just fucking can't. The skirmish between Ichigo vs Ginjou was a joke. The BDF can argue till their faces are blue, the skirmish was a joke. I mean get the fuck out of here! A few slashes and its over??? The fact that Tsukishima is still alive is a fucking joke. The fact that Rukia was saved by Rurika is a fucking joke as well. God Tite Kubo is driving this manga into the ground. One of the worst chapters i've ever read.

One Piece

FUCKING. HYPE. The arc officially wraps up, and Oda treats us to a nice recap of what happened during the 2 year time skip. Akainu vs Akouji! Damn that fight would have been epic to see, but i'm still happy either way. Luffy's visible disgust when Akainu is brought up is funny. Blackbeard pirates emerging as a threat too... Hmm Its cool that Akainu spared Akouji, despite being a monumental douchebag, even he wouldn't kill former comrades. Interested to see what happens to Akouji next...

PS: AKOUJI 4 STRAWHATS 2015 LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

Naruto F-

There were people doing stuff, and I didn't like it because it isn't what I would have written. And the drawings were bad. And Kishimoto promised me a pony. And I didn't read the chapter.

I love you.
 
On a different subject, we now have a different way (beside Bonney) to age Shirahoshi above 30, making her useful outside water. I could see Caribou feed her a steroid pill (just 1) and well.. you can guess the rest.
There's absolutely zero reason for him to do that. Say he does somehow have a pill, it would be pretty silly to feed it to the princess on the spot just for.... there's not even a reason to!
 
Fine, Laffite needed a devil fruit to reach Marie Joa unharmed.

The rest of the crew however, currently, dont have abilities which was my initial argument. They could be hiding them or they could be collecting them
 
Naruto
So the Six Paths of No One cant use the Pain powers. Well, I suppose that makes them a little less hax than they were, since that just makes them super strong edo jins. So nice seeing Guy and Kakashi being bosses.

But why did Kishi have to waste a color page on Sasuke??? He doesn't even do anything.
 
Fine, Laffite needed a devil fruit to reach Marie Joa unharmed.

The rest of the crew however, currently, dont have abilities which was my initial argument. They could be hiding them or they could be collecting them

If you want to get even more crazy if he finds out how to make objects eat a DF like Vegapunk his crew going to be so broken lol ,
 
Naruto

So Sasuke will finally join the fight. Let´s see what he can do. He will probably obliterate half of the allied shinobi alliance.

Naruto
So the Six Paths of No One cant use the Pain powers
You got that wrong. They can use it but Tobi does not have enough chakra/control for the sage powers, and controlling the tailed beasts. Plus he also used his own powers.
 
I still hope he keeps it to 1 per dude though (and him being the only one with 2, excused by the fact he's the captain, or the fact he needed the first one to make the trick work). Having more than one is a bit too end-bossy.

The craziest thing would be if BB can do it regardless of the Darkness fruit. If he can do it and Vegapunk can't, oh man.
 
I still hope he keeps it to 1 per dude though (and him being the only one with 2, excused by the fact he's the captain, or the fact he needed the first one to make the trick work). Having more than one is a bit too end-bossy.

The craziest thing would be if BB can do it regardless of the Darkness fruit. If he can do it and Vegapunk can't, oh man.

It probably will be 1 per dude. I don't see the reason why every member has to get 2 powers. Beside that will be shit ton of dead DF users.
 
Naruto
Finally this shit has picked up. Finding out the beast's past is pretty nice too. Can't wait for next week.

Wrong wrong fucking wrong. you need to learn anatomy because you are just speaking absolute nonsense. The proportions in both the color page and spread were perfect, I'd like you to point out what the fuck is wrong because.

Absolutely. I read that and did a double take.
 
Wrong wrong fucking wrong. you need to learn anatomy because you are just speaking absolute nonsense. The proportions in both the color page and spread were perfect, I'd like you to point out what the fuck is wrong because.

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This is why. This is not how a human being would look in that very angle. Pay attention to the legs, feet, and everything below Sasuke's head very carefully. Everything is off. Sasuke's right foot makes his leg look smaller than his left leg. From the front in this very position, Sasuke would look like his upper body twisted left in a 90 degree angle which I don't think was the intention of Kishimoto in this color page. Kishi could've hidden some of these flaws with decent shadowing, but shadowing is all over the place and random in this pic (which is especially noticeable cause Kishimoto didn't even draw his ankles right). Not even in Naruto's art style does his anatomy make sense.
 
Im guessing they just need to be "defeated" not dead. I cant see Oda kill much more characters, even at the end.

I think it would add a lot more to their eventual fight if the person had to be dead to get their devil fruit taken away. Imagine the SH's all fighting BBs crew with previous characters devil fruits like Bon Clay, Buggy, mr. 3 and Ace just for good measure. Although their DFs aren't real good examples and this idea is kind of cliche I can see it going down like that.
 
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This is why. This is not how a human being would look in that very angle. Pay attention to the legs, feet, and everything below Sasuke's head very carefully. Everything is off. Sasuke's right foot makes his leg look smaller than his left leg. From the front in this very position, Sasuke would look like his upper body twisted left in a 90 degree angle which I don't think was the intention of Kishimoto in this color page. Kishi could've hidden some of these flaws with decent shadowing, but shadowing is all over the place and random in this pic. Not even in Naruto's art style does his anatomy make sense.
No from that angle, his lower body would be twisting but his upper body would not be, like exactly what's in the pose. Both his feet look to be the exact same size.
 
No from that angle, his lower body would be twisting but his upper body would not be, like exactly what's in the pose. Both his feet look to be the exact same size.
And this is a problem because one foot is in front while one is far in the back. It's called perspective
 
And this is a problem because one foot is in front while one is far in the back. It's called perspective

The foot would only appear to be smaller if we were viewing the pose from a non-aerial view. His foot shouldn't look smaller from this perspective. If we were viewing it from the front that might have been a valid complaint but even them to see his foot getting smaller from this close angle would only make the perspective look extremely exaggerated.
 
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