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The admirals were animal themed as well: Red Dog (Akainu) Yellow Monkey (Kizaru) and Blue Pheasant (Aokiji)
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Bleach
Short Answer: Urggghhhh
Long Answer: This is all so cliché and boring. Seriously, no one gives a shit about these characters anymore. And a double misdirected attack? really? Tite is out of clichés so he's doubling up on them.
Kubo really has become terrible at his combat art, slashes going nowhere, super zoom ins making it difficult to make out what's going on etc. It's shit. Ginjou was also really pathetic and taken out way too easily for the end of a major arc, even if this is a set up arc, it was bad.
Also not a fan of this flashback stuff,I'm bored Tite, move on to the next story arc please. I really don't give a shit about Ginjou anymore. Only thing I do like is how Ichigo seems to be the second coming of Ginjou in terms of the people around him becoming part of his "crew" and getting fullbrings (such a dumb name).
Naruto
Meh? Not terrible but too difficult to follow with this artwork, kishi needs to figure out a better style of drawing his fights, cause while they're more interesting than Bleach's, they're way too difficult to follow. I feel like I need audio descriptors for this shit.
As for the actual content, that big ol' mass of hatred sure has become very friendly, ya know, for a mass of hatred. Naruto should have beaten the 9T into submission, not made friends, it doesn't make sense for the 9T to become friends with anyone. I much prefer the explanation that he lends his powers to Naruto because the alternative is a worse outcome for him. Being completely selfish is much more in character.
Oh hey Sasuke is here guys! Let's ignore him for now though! Also was that entrance supposed to look badass? With the slashing and the landing and shit? It seemed kind of odd that he would land on a skeleton and make a few slashes for no reason and start walking off, unless I'm missing something really obvious.
How can Guy and Kakashi take on tailed beasts? Aren't they considerably stronger than them?
One Piece
Single Gripe: I hate, hate hate, when anime/manga doe this. 10 day battle! ffs come on! There are things I can suspend my disbelief from, a 10 day battle in any situation involving things close to human is not one of them. Other series do this as well, butt his is a good time for a rant. After even a day they would be absolutely knackered, I don't care how fucking strong they were they would be knackered. They'd need to rest, eat, sleep, whatever. Unless it's implying they battled for 10 hours per day for 10 days and spent the rest resting up, which has never been suggested (Maybe I'm just a complete moron for not assuming it?), this is too ridiculous.
With that said the Aokiji Aikanu battle does sound awesome, magma v ice, fairly obvious Aikanu would win but Aokiji leaving the Marines could be huge, and I cant wait to see what comes from it. Hope it's something significant and related to the SH.
the chapter overall was great, lots of excellent world building, and making a previously insignificant character significant through something clever (only he could have so easily overheard such a conversation). I was hoping that the Sh would force Shirahoshi to come with them now that she will no longer be safe on FI, but alas it hasn't happened yet.
Loved the cummupence for the Hody crew, a fitting end to their drug abuse.
I also love how Luffy hasn't changed one bit in regards to being so carefree, even after such a major time skip and event, he still manages to stay the same character we all know and love.
I really hope Big Mam does come, and before Luffy lot leave. I want to see how Lola comes into the picture, assuming she is Big Mam's daughter, it would be an awesome way to resolve the issue. Big Mam will spare the island on this occasion because of Lola at the very least, and I assume will become quite friendly with the SH crew. tbh I just really want to see Big Mam after so much build up and how awesome the other Yonkou have been.
Awesome chapter which brings up loads of new questions about the OP universe.
Short Answer: Urggghhhh
Long Answer: This is all so cliché and boring. Seriously, no one gives a shit about these characters anymore. And a double misdirected attack? really? Tite is out of clichés so he's doubling up on them.
Kubo really has become terrible at his combat art, slashes going nowhere, super zoom ins making it difficult to make out what's going on etc. It's shit. Ginjou was also really pathetic and taken out way too easily for the end of a major arc, even if this is a set up arc, it was bad.
Also not a fan of this flashback stuff,I'm bored Tite, move on to the next story arc please. I really don't give a shit about Ginjou anymore. Only thing I do like is how Ichigo seems to be the second coming of Ginjou in terms of the people around him becoming part of his "crew" and getting fullbrings (such a dumb name).
Naruto
Meh? Not terrible but too difficult to follow with this artwork, kishi needs to figure out a better style of drawing his fights, cause while they're more interesting than Bleach's, they're way too difficult to follow. I feel like I need audio descriptors for this shit.
As for the actual content, that big ol' mass of hatred sure has become very friendly, ya know, for a mass of hatred. Naruto should have beaten the 9T into submission, not made friends, it doesn't make sense for the 9T to become friends with anyone. I much prefer the explanation that he lends his powers to Naruto because the alternative is a worse outcome for him. Being completely selfish is much more in character.
Oh hey Sasuke is here guys! Let's ignore him for now though! Also was that entrance supposed to look badass? With the slashing and the landing and shit? It seemed kind of odd that he would land on a skeleton and make a few slashes for no reason and start walking off, unless I'm missing something really obvious.
How can Guy and Kakashi take on tailed beasts? Aren't they considerably stronger than them?
One Piece
Single Gripe: I hate, hate hate, when anime/manga doe this. 10 day battle! ffs come on! There are things I can suspend my disbelief from, a 10 day battle in any situation involving things close to human is not one of them. Other series do this as well, butt his is a good time for a rant. After even a day they would be absolutely knackered, I don't care how fucking strong they were they would be knackered. They'd need to rest, eat, sleep, whatever. Unless it's implying they battled for 10 hours per day for 10 days and spent the rest resting up, which has never been suggested (Maybe I'm just a complete moron for not assuming it?), this is too ridiculous.
With that said the Aokiji Aikanu battle does sound awesome, magma v ice, fairly obvious Aikanu would win but Aokiji leaving the Marines could be huge, and I cant wait to see what comes from it. Hope it's something significant and related to the SH.
the chapter overall was great, lots of excellent world building, and making a previously insignificant character significant through something clever (only he could have so easily overheard such a conversation). I was hoping that the Sh would force Shirahoshi to come with them now that she will no longer be safe on FI, but alas it hasn't happened yet.
Loved the cummupence for the Hody crew, a fitting end to their drug abuse.
I also love how Luffy hasn't changed one bit in regards to being so carefree, even after such a major time skip and event, he still manages to stay the same character we all know and love.
I really hope Big Mam does come, and before Luffy lot leave. I want to see how Lola comes into the picture, assuming she is Big Mam's daughter, it would be an awesome way to resolve the issue. Big Mam will spare the island on this occasion because of Lola at the very least, and I assume will become quite friendly with the SH crew. tbh I just really want to see Big Mam after so much build up and how awesome the other Yonkou have been.
Awesome chapter which brings up loads of new questions about the OP universe.
Bleach (ch 477)
-I see right through Aizen 3.
Ginjou in color looks even worse in his skeleton Halloween costume. Why is Rukia doing her speech for the 2nd time? Ichigo's cape looked boss on that fall. Ginjou had hollow Ichigo face on that overhead attack. Does Ginjou have a rocket pack on his back?
So Ginjou ponders if Ichigo would've done the same. Who knows since we don't know your back-story. Yet... Anyway, you dead. Aizen X with the hole in his chest comes back. He breaths through his reiatsu gills which are hidden from us. Here comes Rurika just in time to get slashed up. Good job! Wait, why did she even do that. Suicide? Like Ichigo wouldn't have just broke that damn sword as well...
Aizen the 13th now goes into a shouting fit which always means he is finished in the manga. Ichigo saved Ginjou by killing him. Sure, why not. Oh flashback!
Bleach is weird.
Ch in 3 (RIP, entrance, flashback)
-I see right through Aizen 3.
Ginjou in color looks even worse in his skeleton Halloween costume. Why is Rukia doing her speech for the 2nd time? Ichigo's cape looked boss on that fall. Ginjou had hollow Ichigo face on that overhead attack. Does Ginjou have a rocket pack on his back?
So Ginjou ponders if Ichigo would've done the same. Who knows since we don't know your back-story. Yet... Anyway, you dead. Aizen X with the hole in his chest comes back. He breaths through his reiatsu gills which are hidden from us. Here comes Rurika just in time to get slashed up. Good job! Wait, why did she even do that. Suicide? Like Ichigo wouldn't have just broke that damn sword as well...
Aizen the 13th now goes into a shouting fit which always means he is finished in the manga. Ichigo saved Ginjou by killing him. Sure, why not. Oh flashback!
Bleach is weird.
Ch in 3 (RIP, entrance, flashback)
Dedication Through Light
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Yugioh 5d's 11
I dont understand what this sense stuff is. Blaze Fenix actually causing rock bombs to bombard the duel runners race? Impressive holograms. Counter Sword with Seven Swords Warrior was an impressive combo.
I dont understand what this sense stuff is. Blaze Fenix actually causing rock bombs to bombard the duel runners race? Impressive holograms. Counter Sword with Seven Swords Warrior was an impressive combo.
Yea, I sort of get the loose connections. But it just shifted away from
Miu's past to Sakaki vs. god fist. And everybody like...forgot? As for masked dude, he just came out of nowhere during the ridiculous fight to kidnap Miu. It was just so thrown in there.
A lot of this might be wrapped up eventually but right now that is quite the cluster of crap.
Dedication Through Light
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Pokemon ReBurst 2
I guess it was expected that others could burst. How lucky to be the owner of a Zekrom. I still want to know who this Arcades is. Fun chapter.
I guess it was expected that others could burst. How lucky to be the owner of a Zekrom. I still want to know who this Arcades is. Fun chapter.
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Zoramon089
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Guys are you forgetting Aizen 2, much like Ichigo, is a fullbring meaning he has some hollow in him. Maybe that's why he can survive with a hole in his chest...Didn't ginjou use cero last chapter? I don't know if that was from being a fullbring or from asborbing Ichigo's reiatsu (which doesn't even make sense because his hollow side is gone, right?)
Ichigo didn't hang out and have a cup of coffee when he got a hole punched in him.
No. Every time shit happens I have no idea what's going on until the reaction the the event. So all I know is Naruto is getting his ass kicked a lot by a bunch of black partially-transformed beasts and giant monsters.
It's all a cluster fuck!
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Infinite Justice
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LOL i forgot about this reference.
One Piece 650:
I'm guessing Luffy will destroy Fishman Island on purpose now vs "accidentally". With Shirahoshi's secret being exposed and Big Mom being a threat (Luffy isn't going to wait around for Big Mom to show up), it would make sense for the Fishman Island residence to move somewhere else vs always needing protection/help.
As for the chapter itself, Oda needs to spread out these "info dumps" a bit better, but otherwise I'm glad the chapter turned out much better than the spoilers suggested (particularly the Caribou/ES drug confusion). I am interested in knowing how the Marines are more powerful without Aokiji though/what power they've gained in 2 years.
I'm also glad that the ES drug had real consequences for Hodi and friends (although Hodi should have gotten harsher consequences from his drug use) and that the Big Mom = ES Drug supplier theory some people in this thread were pushing around didn't turn out to be true. Now if we can just hurry up and get Luffy off of Fishman Island so people can calm down with the "Luffy vs Big Mom" match ups.
Hunter X Hunter 329:
I'm disappointed in how quickly the Anti Chairman faction got dealt with, but otherwise the chapter was good and Togashi continues to handle the A and B plots well in terms of keeping everything linked. I'm guessing Killua will get "saved" and someone will interfere in the fight vs actually taking on Illumi and his super soldiers himself (maybe a more blatant Hisoka betrayal or even Ging since he's out of the voting now).
The changes in the vote numbers is also a bit disappointing now that it's basically a contest between a few Zodiac 12 members, Leorio, and the Anti Chairman faction. I was hoping Biscuit or another character would remain in the voting for a little while. But it does give Leorio a better chance at winning if he can do something else "awesome" and pick up some votes from the other Zodiacs and the Anti Chairman group.
One more chapter to go right?
I'm guessing Luffy will destroy Fishman Island on purpose now vs "accidentally". With Shirahoshi's secret being exposed and Big Mom being a threat (Luffy isn't going to wait around for Big Mom to show up), it would make sense for the Fishman Island residence to move somewhere else vs always needing protection/help.
As for the chapter itself, Oda needs to spread out these "info dumps" a bit better, but otherwise I'm glad the chapter turned out much better than the spoilers suggested (particularly the Caribou/ES drug confusion). I am interested in knowing how the Marines are more powerful without Aokiji though/what power they've gained in 2 years.
I'm also glad that the ES drug had real consequences for Hodi and friends (although Hodi should have gotten harsher consequences from his drug use) and that the Big Mom = ES Drug supplier theory some people in this thread were pushing around didn't turn out to be true. Now if we can just hurry up and get Luffy off of Fishman Island so people can calm down with the "Luffy vs Big Mom" match ups.
Hunter X Hunter 329:
I'm disappointed in how quickly the Anti Chairman faction got dealt with, but otherwise the chapter was good and Togashi continues to handle the A and B plots well in terms of keeping everything linked. I'm guessing Killua will get "saved" and someone will interfere in the fight vs actually taking on Illumi and his super soldiers himself (maybe a more blatant Hisoka betrayal or even Ging since he's out of the voting now).
The changes in the vote numbers is also a bit disappointing now that it's basically a contest between a few Zodiac 12 members, Leorio, and the Anti Chairman faction. I was hoping Biscuit or another character would remain in the voting for a little while. But it does give Leorio a better chance at winning if he can do something else "awesome" and pick up some votes from the other Zodiacs and the Anti Chairman group.
One more chapter to go right?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
He seems overconfident because that's what he wants you to think.
However since he knows that you know that he's projecting that image, he's only trying to maintain that image so that you'll focus on what's immediately beneath the surface.
However, since you know that he knows that you know he knows, he plans three steps further and the more you scratch the more mislead you become so your only real option is to rely on the economics of the opinion within the hunter community rather than focus on Pariston.
Yes.
Infinite Justice
Member
Dammit man why do you have to be such a killjoy
Plus the harsher consequences* for Hodi would go against Oda's mantra in regards to characters and how Luffy winning is basically the enemy experiencing their dreams being crushed.
*anything harsher would be death imo hence the statement.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
All those presuming Lola was Big Mam's daughter also seem to think that having her vivre card is going to have her on side. Question is, does it still exist?
The very end of Thriller Bark had that ominous as fuck shadow with eyes:
The very end of Thriller Bark had that ominous as fuck shadow with eyes:
Zoramon089
Banned
Also people assume being mother daughter means they like each other or even get along...which doesn't have to be the case at all
Dedication Through Light
Member
What?! one series has 177 volumes? Oh my. ( Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo).
Its taking that One Piece vol 64 awhile to hit 3mln.
Infinite Justice
Member
Assuming Big Mum is the person Lola refers to her "Mom" she seemed rather confident that her Mom would help Strawhats out if they were in trouble.
One Piece 650:
Hey now, I completely ignored that "Aokiji for Nakama" discussion that was going on. That party is still going on right?
As for Hodi, he didn't necessarily have to die. Oda could have had the others age less drastically and have Hodi be the one with the craziest aging?
Dammit man why do you have to be such a killjoy
Plus the harsher consequences* for Hodi would go against Oda's mantra in regards to characters and how Luffy winning is basically the enemy experiencing their dreams being crushed.
*anything harsher would be death imo hence the statement.
Hey now, I completely ignored that "Aokiji for Nakama" discussion that was going on. That party is still going on right?
As for Hodi, he didn't necessarily have to die. Oda could have had the others age less drastically and have Hodi be the one with the craziest aging?
The strawhats met those two giants that have been fighting for the last what? 50 years? Don't remember.
Ten days can happen.
Maleficence
Member
True but that was more of an ongoing struggle, and it was stated that they rested daily iirc.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Must be a cultural difference. We in Asia are bought up with stories of duels that lasts for days. Hell, some chinese comics I've read had them fight over a month.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well to Oda having your dream crush is the most harsh thing that can happen to you .
When you look at it Hodi crew got fuck over more than any other villain so far.
At least the others even after they get beat could fight again\ are okay hodi is now useless.
I guess you could call death worst but to some people they are things worst than death .
When you look at it Hodi crew got fuck over more than any other villain so far.
At least the others even after they get beat could fight again\ are okay hodi is now useless.
I guess you could call death worst but to some people they are things worst than death .
brotkasten
Member
Shaman King 28
After the crap with Ryu, it looks like things are finally starting to get interesting. Good to see that there's more than just combining with old spirits.
After the crap with Ryu, it looks like things are finally starting to get interesting. Good to see that there's more than just combining with old spirits.
A Bride's Story vol 1
Really great art to go along with a nice and charming story, despite the plot being based around a 12 year old boy marrying a 20 year old girl. Amira is a really nice girl and Karluk is still so innocent and shy.
I did find a scene to be a bit... when Arima and Karluk go look for Karluk's uncle, the uncle and another man discuss about Arima being too old for Karluk, wondering if she'll be able to give him enough kids and that a younger wife might have been preferrable while both agreeing that younger girls are much better. Such a way of thinking was common in the past and makes sense in the story given the time the story takes place in, but it is still weird.
I love James Hotate. Got to check it out.
Really great art to go along with a nice and charming story, despite the plot being based around a 12 year old boy marrying a 20 year old girl. Amira is a really nice girl and Karluk is still so innocent and shy.
I did find a scene to be a bit... when Arima and Karluk go look for Karluk's uncle, the uncle and another man discuss about Arima being too old for Karluk, wondering if she'll be able to give him enough kids and that a younger wife might have been preferrable while both agreeing that younger girls are much better. Such a way of thinking was common in the past and makes sense in the story given the time the story takes place in, but it is still weird.
I love James Hotate. Got to check it out.
Yes, I love this so much. It's a bit similar to the rural culture of my country so I can easily relate though.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Bleach: D
A weak chapter, in my opinion. I'm just... not really feeling the plight of the main antagonist in this arc... it seems like a lot of trouble for something that is not really mind-blowing.
One Piece: B-
A lot of expositions and the tidbit against Big Mom coming is interesting. Maybe Luffy's fight against Big Mon is going to cause whatever destruction that's prophesied early in the arc (God I hate stuff like "legendary" or "prophecy")
Naruto: B
Very hectic all around, I really like it. We're nearing the end of Naruto, I think, so I am excited to see what Kishi will bring on the table. And, as usual from him, a simple yet pleasant to look at art from Kishi all around.
Hunter x Hunter: B+
Excited about the prospect of Killua going mano a mano with Illumi.
A weak chapter, in my opinion. I'm just... not really feeling the plight of the main antagonist in this arc... it seems like a lot of trouble for something that is not really mind-blowing.
One Piece: B-
A lot of expositions and the tidbit against Big Mom coming is interesting. Maybe Luffy's fight against Big Mon is going to cause whatever destruction that's prophesied early in the arc (God I hate stuff like "legendary" or "prophecy")
Naruto: B
Very hectic all around, I really like it. We're nearing the end of Naruto, I think, so I am excited to see what Kishi will bring on the table. And, as usual from him, a simple yet pleasant to look at art from Kishi all around.
Hunter x Hunter: B+
Excited about the prospect of Killua going mano a mano with Illumi.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
One Piece: A+
Oda wrote it
Bleach: ▲
I can't believe Kubo did sneak up from behind + reaction shot. Can't believe it.
Naruto: †
I'm not entirely I understand what Sasuke would be doing there. Maybe I missed something. He was sleeping, and then magically decided to wake up halfway through the battle and he just like...teleported there?
Oda wrote it
Bleach: ▲
I can't believe Kubo did sneak up from behind + reaction shot. Can't believe it.
Naruto: †
I'm not entirely I understand what Sasuke would be doing there. Maybe I missed something. He was sleeping, and then magically decided to wake up halfway through the battle and he just like...teleported there?
mysticwhip
Banned
lololol
flintstryker
Banned
He could sense all of the chakra and a disturbance in the force.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I guess I must have missed the chapter where Sasuke went to Yardrat
Am I the only one who can follow Naruto and not get confused?
Regarding Sasuke, the color image clearly shows he jumped out of Madara's crumbling hideout underneath that dino skeleton and up atop the plateau. As for why it took so long for him to do so from when we last saw him, well, that's just the way Kishi is where the time in his manga becomes really stretched where it's hard to tell what is happening when. He's clearly not a part of the war yet, Kishi is just hyping and wants to please his fans, because that's the only reason he's appeared in this chapter on a colored page.
I also was able to follow the battle with Tobi and the jins just fine. It's very hectic with a lot of one panel attacks, but then clearly Kishi is trying to show a lot happening at once and doesn't have a lot of pages to work with.
Regarding Sasuke, the color image clearly shows he jumped out of Madara's crumbling hideout underneath that dino skeleton and up atop the plateau. As for why it took so long for him to do so from when we last saw him, well, that's just the way Kishi is where the time in his manga becomes really stretched where it's hard to tell what is happening when. He's clearly not a part of the war yet, Kishi is just hyping and wants to please his fans, because that's the only reason he's appeared in this chapter on a colored page.
I also was able to follow the battle with Tobi and the jins just fine. It's very hectic with a lot of one panel attacks, but then clearly Kishi is trying to show a lot happening at once and doesn't have a lot of pages to work with.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I wasn't under the impression this fight was taking place near his hideout.
When Sasuke left, my assumption was he was going to go pwn some mooks, like Zetsu clones or something dumb to just show off how cool he is.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
*pebble destruction* Sauce appears on the battlefield!
Why'd he do that? That's right. you have no explanation either.
One then wonders why he set up the battle in such a way that rendering it is extremely difficult.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Nah i can follow it just find but then again i never really had that that problem with any manga i read .
The problem is Kishi still hasn't gotten from point A to point B in that regard. We're at point A.5. And I fear it's probably going to be that way where Kishi devotes one page to Sasuke each chapter to show his progress until he finally gets to point B (Naruto).
He jumped out of the lair as I said. Answered. Why'd he do that? Kishi tries to be "dramatic".
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Mere speculation. There are also clear slash marks. He was cutting pebbles.
Kakashi "going all out" also apparently meant that he left to go find Naruto.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Just caught up with Naruto after taking a month of for focusing on finals. These tailed beast fights are cool. So WHO IN THE FUCK IS TOBI?
I still stand by my claim that it will be someone out of left field like the fucking first or some shit.
I still stand by my claim that it will be someone out of left field like the fucking first or some shit.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I placed my bet on Sarutobi. That's why Asuma had to die. He'd figure it out, so he had to go.
wtf does that even mean? Look at the color page, it's fucking obvious
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