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PlayStation Vita Japanese Launch Thread. "APOCALYPTIC!" says concerned Nuclear Muffin

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Defuser said:
Wtf,there's already used copies of vita games already? Smh
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Not surprising. Happens to all games in Japan (FF13-2 had used copies on the day of release!)

Rentals are illegal in Japan, so many people buy a game, plow through it and dump it as quickly as possible to get most of the cost of the game back (effectively using the new release as a rental)
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Ahh, so it's probably a matter of some of the animations being missing, with most of them being left intact then. One of the best thing about MvsC3's visuals was how lively those backgrounds were and that trailer looked good enough to me!
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twentytwo22 said:
Not sure if they are as good as the console version, but they are what you see in that trailer -- definitely some animation going on.
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The background in UMvC3 looks great, I'm more concerned about Blazblue. Weren't the backgrounds in console versions hand-drawn as well? From the clips it looks like Blazblue switched them for ugly 3D models.
 
Castor Krieg said:
The background in UMvC3 looks great, I'm more concerned about Blazblue. Weren't the backgrounds in console versions hand-drawn as well? From the clips it looks like Blazblue switched them for ugly 3D models.
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Backgrounds have always been a mix of 3D and 2D. Vita version is no different. It looks great too. Still screens do that game no justice.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Not surprising. Happens to all games in Japan (FF13-2 had used copies on the day of release!)

Rentals are illegal in Japan, so many people buy a game, plow through it and dump it as quickly as possible to get most of the cost of the game back (effectively using the new release as a rental)
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Well that explains it.
 
noobie said:
So no VITA numbers tonight by famitsu?
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...Eh. It seems tuesday has become the day for the release of early datas. Nothing today, neither from other sources such as Nikkei :(

CREAMSUGAR, HELP US!
 
So it seems like the Vita is fucking up the contrast and colors of the PSP pretty hard, isn't it? I still think the PSP games are optimized for the PSP screen, so the devs choose their colors etc. with that in mind. It looks completly different on the Vita Screen.
 
I wish the screen wouldn't switch off even if you are playing a game. The first time I was watching a cutscene in katamari the screen cut out and I thought the vita was dead. Didn't even go dim first, just switched off.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Rentals are illegal in Japan, so many people buy a game, plow through it and dump it as quickly as possible to get most of the cost of the game back (effectively using the new release as a rental)
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What? If I'm not mistaken half of what Tsutaya is doing is renting games/cds/anime etc.
 
mrklaw said:
I wish the screen wouldn't switch off even if you are playing a game. The first time I was watching a cutscene in katamari the screen cut out and I thought the vita was dead. Didn't even go dim first, just switched off.
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Isn't sleep set to 1 min by default? Just change it up.


Keiician said:
What? If I'm not mistaken half of what Tsutaya is doing is renting games/cds/anime etc.
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You sure about the games part?
 
Thrakier said:
So it seems like the Vita is fucking up the contrast and colors of the PSP pretty hard, isn't it? I still think the PSP games are optimized for the PSP screen, so the devs choose their colors etc. with that in mind. It looks completly different on the Vita Screen.
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You can enable PSP color space on the vita options, if you prefer the original colors.
 
Also, after a completely glitch-free couple of days, I had some whoppers today -- Near froze, so I thought I should restart my system -- turned it off and it wouldn't turn back on. Didn't know about holding the power button for 20+ seconds, so I just waited 5 minutes and tried it again and it worked >.>
Also at one point, trophies app wouldn't load at all.

Everything is going well now though...
 
the androgyne said:
The GEO store in my wife's home town of Toyo-oka rents games no problem...
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You sure you're not confusing selling used games with renting? As a pretty loyal Geo customer over the years I've never seen them rent games in any of their stores, and I've been to Geo on every one of the 4 islands AND Okinawa!
 
Actually i think i spoke too soon... wife says i'm confused cause they have labels in the cases of out of stock games.. like a rental store would for 'on loan'. Doh!
 
the androgyne said:
Actually i think i spoke too soon... wife says i'm confused cause they have labels in the cases of out of stock games.. like a rental store would for 'on loan'. Doh!
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Right, they actually label the cases with 新品 or 中古 and you think they're in stock but actually in the little plastic slip is where they hide the 売り切れ label..gets me every time..
 
SappYoda said:
PS Vita browser test: http://www.roshi.tv/2011/12/psvitano.html

Not great :(, it barely supports html5.

Thats a lost opportunity for Sony. I don't think it would be very difficult to support at least a video or audio tag. And of course, no webgl support.

Code: 
html5test.com http://html5test.com/ の実行結果
スコア：66 + 0 Bonus（PC版Chrome16：344 + 13 Bonus）
Parsing rules                                1/11
   triggers standards mode     Yes
  HTML5 tokenizer                              No
  HTML5 tree building                          No
  SVG in text/html                             No
  MathML in text/html                          No

Canvas                                         20
  canvas element                              Yes
  2D context                                  Yes
  Text                                        Yes

Video                                        0/31
  video element                                No
  Subtitle support                             No
  Poster image support                         No
  MPEG-4 support                               No
  H.264 support                                No
  Ogg Theora support                           No
  WebM support                                 No

Audio                                        0/31
  audio element                                No
  PCM audio support                            No
  MP3 support                                  No
  AAC support                                  No
  Ogg Vorbis support                           No
  WebM support                                 No

Elements                                     6/28
  Embedding custom non-visible data            No
  New or modified elements
    Section elements                           No
    Grouping content elements                  No
    Text-level semantic elements       Partial ○
    Interactive elements               Partial ○
Global attributes or methods
  hidden attribute                             No
  Dynamic markup insertion                    Yes

Forms                                       11/98
Field types
  input type=search                           Yes
  input type=tel                              Yes
  input type=url                       Partial ○
  input type=email                     Partial ○
  input type=datetime                          No
  input type=date                              No
  input type=month                             No
  input type=week                              No
  input type=time                              No
  input type=datetime-local                    No
  input type=number                    Partial ○
  input type=range                     Partial ○
  input type=color                             No
  input type=checkbox                         Yes
  input type=image                     Partial ○
  textarea                             Partial ○
  select                               Partial ○
  fieldset                             Partial ○
  datalist                                     No
  keygen                               Partial ○
  output                                       No
  progress                                     No
  meter                                        No
Fields
  Field validation                             No
  Association of controls and forms            No
  Other attributes                     Partial ○
  CSS selectors                                No
  Events                               Partial ○
Forms
  Form validation                              No

User interaction                            17/36
Drag and drop
  Attributes                                   No
  Events                                       No
HTML editing
  Editing elements                            Yes
  Editing documents                           Yes
  APIs                                        Yes

History and navigation                        0/5
  Session history                              No

Microdata                                     0/5
  Microdata                                    No

Web applications                             0/20
  Application Cache                            No
  Custom scheme handlers                       No
  Custom content handlers                      No
  Custom search providers                      No

Security                                     0/10
Sandboxed iframe                               No
Seamless iframe                                No

Related specifications
Geolocation                                  0/15
  Geolocation                                  No

WebGL
  3D context                                   No
    Native binary data                         No

Communication                                5/25
  Cross-document messaging                    Yes
  Server-Sent Events                           No
  WebSocket                                    No

Files                                        0/20
  FileReader API                               No
  FileSystem API                               No

Storage                                      0/20
  Session Storage                              No
  Local Storage                                No
  IndexedDB                                    No
  Web SQL Database                             No

Workers                                      0/15
  Web Workers                                  No
  Shared Workers                               No

Local multimedia                             0/20
  Access the webcam                            No

Notifications                                0/10
  Web Notifications                            No

Other                                           6
Text selection                                Yes
Scroll into view                              Yes

I am really dissapointed.

I don't think they are going to fix this.
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psvita-acid3.jpg
and the webkit2 to GTK API interface is not finished yet.

Geolocation, SVG and WebGL not implemented yet.... Admittedly, Sony is going to not support some features to lock us into them but SVG icons and text is not a threat and appear to be needed by the new PS store and menu navigation. By Feb 2012 more of the GTK Webkit2 API (If GTK) will be done and Vitas sold in the US should have a more robust HTML5 webkit browser.

Also in the link provided by SappYoda is what appears to be a list of intellectual property in the Vita:

Access NetFront
asiasoft AsiaFont
FONTFWORKS（日本語フォント/欧文フォントの一部）
MPEGLA(MPEG-4)
iWnn
楽ひら（手書き文字認識エンジン）Handwriting recognition
QUALCOMM
RSA
Skyhook Wireless
Sony Music Publishing
Fraunhofer IIS and Thomson(MP3)
blist
CyrusSASL
FLANN
FreeBSD
FreeType
giflib
libEtPan!
libjpeg
libtiff
MD5
NetBSD
OpenCV
squish
strlcpy
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Which would indicate the Vita is using the same OS as the PS3; FreeBSD with routines from NetBSD

Browser or parts of the browser are from Access Netfront but at the same time they say they license WebKit?

http://www.scei.co.jp/psvita-license/webkit.html
http://www.scei.co.jp/psvita-license/WebKit.tar.gz webkit disclosure file , it contains every branch of webkit including GTK <sigh> but no way to tell the build

Netfront webkit browser for GTK Linux Old News but in PDfs versions for handhelds supported GTK Cairo and Gstreamer.

TOKYO and FREMONT, Calif., Dec. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- ACCESS
(Tokyo Stock Exchange: 4813), a global provider of mobile content delivery and
access technologies, today announced that its new NetFront v3.1 Software
Development Kit (SDK) for Linux is available for free download from ACCESS'
web site (http://www.access.co.jp/English ). The Qtopia/Qt/Embedded package is
available today, and the GTK package will follow in early January. Both trial
versions bundle the evaluation version of the MontaVista(R) Linux(R)
Professional Edition 3.0 and MontaVista Graphics from MontaVista Software,
Inc. as well as Qt/Embedded and Qtopia from Trolltech A/S, enabling NetFront
as an executable immediately after downloading on these environments.

NetFront v3.1 SDK for Linux is the newly available software development
kit for NetFront v3.1, the latest version of the most widely deployed and
actively used mobile browser in the world. The SDK supports MontaVista Linux,
one of the most widely used embedded Linux development platforms worldwide,
and MontaVista Graphics/GTK+, QT/Embedded and Qtopia as GUI environment
options. The SDK allows developers to port and customize the NetFront browser
for a variety of Linux-based embedded and consumer appliances with minimal
development time. The commercial version of NetFront v3.1 SDK for Linux will
ship at the end of December.
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Vita Documentation
 
the androgyne said:
Actually i think i spoke too soon... wife says i'm confused cause they have labels in the cases of out of stock games.. like a rental store would for 'on loan'. Doh!
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Yeah, that always confuses the shit out of me at GEO, because I always think they have something in stock because I see the spine, and then pull it out and go "oh" when it has a big &#21697;&#20999;&#12428;&#20013; sticker on it.

Also, I think I will be able to do a full-to-death battery test tonight, how does GAF say I should do it? Stock brightness (which is about 80%)? 50% brightness? Headphones or speakers? PS Vita game on gamecard, I would assume? Network on or off?
 
RyougaSaotome said:
I've never seen a Tsutaya with games up for rental. =0
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Ah, right, I thought I saw a circle in their store locator in "rental" and "games", but it's just all the other stuff. My mistake, sorry.
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Also, I think I will be able to do a full-to-death battery test tonight, how does GAF say I should do it? Stock brightness (which is about 80%)? 50% brightness? Headphones or speakers? PS Vita game on gamecard, I would assume? Network on or off?
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I think the 100% brightness + all possible features on and in game would be the best to stress test the hell of that battery and know what's the shortest time we can expect.
 
32 pages of vita talk, the browser gets mentioned and jeff_rigby is on the case lol.
What's up with your fasination and knowledge on the psp/vita's webkits ?
 
twentytwo22 said:
Not sure if they are as good as the console version, but they are what you see in that trailer -- definitely some animation going on.
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Only very few parts of the background move. In that trailer, the Servbots in one level and the large cruise ship in another are totally frozen, killing all the frantic liveliness of those stages. It just looks eerie.

Launch software woes :-(
 
Leona Lewis said:
Only very few parts of the background move. In that trailer, the Servbots in one level and the large cruise ship in another are totally frozen, killing all the frantic liveliness of those stages. It just looks eerie.

Launch software woes :-(
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Oh come on, if you have time to look at the backgrounds, you're fighting with too weak enemies!
 
Just out of interest, has anyone tried the online modes in Minna no Golf yet? Interested to know how it works. All I know is that the PS3 lobbies are in the Vita version and there's some sort of offline mode where you upload your score at the end for a tournament.
 
twentytwo22 said:
Also, after a completely glitch-free couple of days, I had some whoppers today -- Near froze, so I thought I should restart my system -- turned it off and it wouldn't turn back on. Didn't know about holding the power button for 20+ seconds, so I just waited 5 minutes and tried it again and it worked >.>
Also at one point, trophies app wouldn't load at all.

Everything is going well now though...
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This thing better be running OS ver. 2.0 by February. Cause I'm having nonna dis'.
 
Today, I actually tried to transfer a PSP game (JP), I purchased a game for the test, from PS3 (JP) to Vita (US account), short answer you can't :(

Other than that, I noticed a few things, maybe not new though.
Your PS3 friends can't see you online when you sign-in from Vita.
You can invite your PS3 friends to your party room (on the Vita's party app) but your PS3 friends can't join your party room.

Hello, PS3-Vita cross platform multiplayer games!!


I've never owned PSP. Any PSP games recommendation I should try? I'm thinking of getting Yakuza PSP.
 
HiddenAway said:
Just out of interest, has anyone tried the online modes in Minna no Golf yet? Interested to know how it works. All I know is that the PS3 lobbies are in the Vita version and there's some sort of offline mode where you upload your score at the end for a tournament.
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It's A-Sync Multi. You get together for a tournament, play 18 holes, and after everyone is finished the game counts your score and posts results.

Gacha-pin said:
I've never owned PSP. Any PSP games recommendation I should try? I'm thinking of getting Yakuza PSP.
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Are you into music games? DJ Max Portable is godly, DJMP3 should be available on PSN. Also, lots of people love MG:Peace Walker, and you can map camera to Vita's right stick.
 
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