Joel Was Right
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Its unfortunate MS can't make Messenger support exclusive to Windows Phone
Windows Phone 7 |OT|
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Well, that's good to know. I was under the impression they were still trying to outsource the msn functionalities out.
Click the switch button. The icon with the two arrows facing different ways.
Why the hell is that unfortunate? As a Windows Phone user, the last thing you should want is to limit yourself to only be able to chat over Messenger with other Windows Phone users.
frontieruk
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it defaults to SMS if you have their number, you manually switch the conversation using the menu (... bottom right), I can't say which gets priority out of facebook/msn.
Just like everything on Windows Phone, messaging is "people first" so to speak. Meaning all the contacts you have on your phone automatically get populated with their Facebook information, Live Messenger information, phone number, etc. as long as you choose for the phone to do so.
This means that the phone automatically knows whether you have someone's Messenger/Facebook information or not. It also logs into the service, so it knows if those people are online on those services or not.
When you load up the messaging app, it'll default to Facebook/Messenger if the user is online on that service and you've set yourself to online. If they're not online, it'll default to SMS/MMS.
If you've already talked to someone, then it'll default to whatever you used last. If you last used Facebook and the user is not signed-in to Facebook, it'll tell you that you should probably switch to SMS instead but it won't do it automatically for you, since maybe you want to send an offline Facebook message.
This means that the phone automatically knows whether you have someone's Messenger/Facebook information or not. It also logs into the service, so it knows if those people are online on those services or not.
When you load up the messaging app, it'll default to Facebook/Messenger if the user is online on that service and you've set yourself to online. If they're not online, it'll default to SMS/MMS.
If you've already talked to someone, then it'll default to whatever you used last. If you last used Facebook and the user is not signed-in to Facebook, it'll tell you that you should probably switch to SMS instead but it won't do it automatically for you, since maybe you want to send an offline Facebook message.
woahitsreeo
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Exactly **cough** facetime **cough**cough**
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i am pretty sure apple can get away with that, just because so many people have iphones.
brotkasten
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Now that Microsoft opened the Windows Live Messenger for XMPP, I hope they'll do the same for chat in Windows Phone.
No need to pay the insanely high priced txt messaging plans (or atleast drop down to the lowest one).
brotkasten
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It's free when you have WiFi or a data plan. Not everyone wants to pay extra for text messaging (something that costs the operators very little, but is a huge cash cow for them).
frontieruk
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Hey cj your famous and I get to complete an old Gaf meme...
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-snubbed-live-messenger
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-snubbed-live-messenger
that would be dumb. you want messenger clients on as many platforms as possible.
brotkasten
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Something is wrong here.
Something is wrong here.
Its amazing what a little marketing money can do (both this and using the metric of carrier website rankings which are easily bought)
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Amazon customer reviews are being bought by Microsoft to affect a ranking barely anyone uses? And they couldn't even pay enough money to buy up ALL the top slots?
antiquegamer
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Or it could be that people are really happy with Windows Phone.
Get out of here!
Sorry i read the picture more after posting snd missed the review part. Im sure people are happy with them, hear nothing but good from users. Point still stands for EU page rankings
I don't see the HTC Arrive.
2012 CES will be MS's last. Similar to how Apple pulled out of Macworld. Having to announce something at a set date every year is restrictive.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsof...12-marks-final-ces-keynote-for-microsoft.aspx
http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsof...12-marks-final-ces-keynote-for-microsoft.aspx
? What did they announce last year?
Mango, NoDo? Surface 2 I think.
Windows 7 ARM tablets
Windows 8 on ARM
NoDo
Mango went gold in July, not too much of a stretch to see apollo go gold in June.
Hmm Windows 8 hitting mid 2012 color me impressed.
That sounds interesting, wonder how close it'll be to the W500 specs wise
edit, unless it's like the ARM tabs and doesn't run native Windows programs
That means new phones for the summer, right?
brotkasten
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Like Windu said, mango went RTM around the same time. It was July, I think.
so, maybe I'm missing something here but when I use the 'share on SkyDrive' option from the camera it compresses the pictures down and makes them look like garbage, but if you use the new SkyDrive app it uploads the original photo. Metadata and all.
I don't really want to open another app to share a photo when the option is already built-in. I thought that was the idea anyway.
is there some setting or something I'm not seeing?
I don't really want to open another app to share a photo when the option is already built-in. I thought that was the idea anyway.
is there some setting or something I'm not seeing?
brotkasten
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"YouTubes current API does not have any documented methods for obtaining high quality video content."
Then how are apps on iOS and Android doing it and will devs pull them too?
Psychotext
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Do no evil...
...unless it has some sort of an advantage.
...unless it has some sort of an advantage.
brotkasten
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Uploading from the camera is basically a snapshot function for quick and easy sharing. It would cost a lot of bandwidth to upload a 5 or 8 MP picture every time, so they're compressed. If you want the full quality, you can always sync the original picture with Zune to your PC, or now upload them with the SkyDrive app.
Should there be an option to turn the compression off? Absolutely, but Microsoft is probably picking the dumbest users for their focus tests, so options and switches and toggles confused them and Microsoft took it out.
Anton Sugar
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Do third party Youtube apps on iOS have a HQ mode? I don't know since I've never tried any. The built in one is collaborated between Apple and Google, who gives private API access to Apple to stream videos in HQ.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Oooo not getting the YT thing totally sucks, but the scuffle might explain why MS went ahead and released some of their stuff on iOS and left Android out in the cold. I find it funny though cause not like Apple is putting their apps on WP7 either. MS seems to be trying to get their stuff on all the platforms though, and Apple and Google seem to have no reason to return the favor.
bloodforge
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Google being dicks does not surprise me.
Psychotext
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They don't seem to be surprised about it. More disappointed that the workaround is being shut down and they're not being given the same access as Android and iOS developers.
iOS and Android devs don't get a HQ stream either from the public API. I have no idea why Google won't expose it for third party developers.
Psychotext
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Ahh, so it's only google themselves that are capable of providing an app for HQ youtube vids?
That seems less sinister to me. Though still annoying.
That seems less sinister to me. Though still annoying.
Either themselves or you have to work with them to make your own like Apple did. And they seem to be very selective about who they're willing to work with to allow access to the HQ stream.
Microsoft could easily make their own Youtube app but maybe their relationship with Google isn't the best.
Many of the third-party apps pull the data straight from the YouTube page without going through an API. LazyTube/MetroTube used the mobile site whilst others such as easyTube and SuperTube use the desktop version, which allows them to serve 720p videos.
didn't they just release a youtube app on the 360? :lol
my guess is YouTube are going to release their own app and that's why these third-party ones have been removed.
or maybe Google got the hump when Microsoft released all those iOS last week
I bet they don't do apps.... the app model for youtube is kinda stupid when they can just make the html5 website better and have that work be reflected for everybody.
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