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Ridley Scott's Prometheus Trailer

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Just watched it for the first time post-leak on my IPhone. Definitely looks like the crew gets infected and at least one of them (leaping dude) begins mutating into an alien of some kind (maybe the new Space Jockey pilot?)

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What do you think that is on the table?

A Chozo head? :p Somewhere in Japan, Sakamoto is watching this trailer with a grin on his face. ;)
 
Read Roger Ebert's review on the film, yes it was scary.

But really, both the movies aren't that scary as they were originally released, it dilutes over time, but both do different ways to tension and suspense as Aliens has some of the longest sustained tension in a movie I've seen in a good while went I watched it again on blu-ray this year, once everything went to hell at the ambush, it barely slowed down.

Though I find a lot of horrors movies themselves aren't necessarily that scary either.
Man, that's crazy... I don't see it. I just see grenades and guys in rubber suits jumping past the frame when I remember that movie.
Oh well, I'm clearly wrong since it scared plenty of people. carry on.

EDIT: A few years back (when I decided I hated 2) I watched them all with my wife on halloween. We were both pretty scared of the first one.
 
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with this location.

And Aliens is scarier than Alien. People only remember guns going off and classify it as 'action' because their younger selves blocked out the scary parts to protect them. Much thicker sense of tension in Aliens than the first film. That is not saying it is better or anything attempting to fire people up, just that it is thick with tension that doesn't let up and just builds and builds. To remember what it was like, read Ebert's original review of Aliens.

I'm sorry, but I must disagree. The first time I saw either movie was back-to-back just a little over 3 years ago, and Aliens was disappointing in many ways compared to Alien, which is now my second favorite movie of all time, and was far scarier to me. I didn't dislike Aliens, but it just couldn't compare.
 
I asked before, but I'll ask again...

Asides from Alien, The Thing, Event Horizon, and Dead Space, what other good alien/space horror is out there? Preferably (more modern) novels, I want some good creepy novels to read before I go on vacation.

I found 'Aliens' a lot more fun to watch than 'Alien'. But I love both movies, just for different reasons. The third had some cool stuff, but I hate it's beginning and ending so much. The fourth is just really... awkwardly funny stuff. Wasn't the original ending for Resurrection something about the world ending? It's been a while since I watched it.

Edit: Wikipedia said that Scott and Weaver were collaborating on a spin-off focusing on Ripley. I dunno the validity of that is, but I would be so down for that. I'd love to see Ripley deal with something horrifying outside of Xenomorphs.

I need to re-watch Alien and Aliens now.

watch sunshine

I've seen Sunshine. I enjoyed it. Great score.
 
I'm sorry, but I must disagree. The first time I saw either movie was back-to-back just a little over 3 years ago, and Aliens was disappointing in many ways compared to Alien, which is now my second favorite movie of all time, and was far scarier to me. I didn't dislike Aliens, but it just couldn't compare.
3 years ago? Fuck man... do we live the same life? For some reason it freaks me out that we both did this and came to similar conclusions about 3 years ago.

Fuck Prometheus, Scott needs to make a movie out of these posts. I'm scared.

but yeah, upon rewatch Aliens fell off my list of favorite movies and Alien jumped up to favorite sci-fi movie and probably favorite horror.
 
Wut?

That wouldn't make any sense.

The name Prometheus alone speaks volumes of what the story is about.

I don't mean literally. I mean maybe it's the logo of the ship (Prometheus) or something to that extent.

And do many people even know what Prometheus mythology all about? I've read comments elsewhere that actually asked how one spells the title of the film.
The title of the film, now in post-production,is an allusion to the Titan god, Prometheus, of Greek mythology, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to humankind — an act which brought eternal punishment upon the god. While actually the name of the humans' spaceship in the story, the name "Prometheus" is used in a greater metaphorical sense.

Read the production section of the Wiki page.
 
3 years ago? Fuck man... do we live the same life? For some reason it freaks me out that we both did this and came to similar conclusions about 3 years ago.

Fuck Prometheus, Scott needs to make a movie out of these posts. I'm scared.

but yeah, upon rewatch Aliens fell off my list of favorite movies and Alien jumped up to favorite sci-fi movie and probably favorite horror.

love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

Pretty ballsy changing up genres for the sequel.
 
love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

Pretty ballsy changing up genres for the sequel.

This is the argument I've been willing to accept in the past :)
I think I've even had this discussion with you! :)

Anyway, this derail is useless.

PROMETHEUS!!!!!
 
3 years ago? Fuck man... do we live the same life? For some reason it freaks me out that we both did this and came to similar conclusions about 3 years ago.

Fuck Prometheus, Scott needs to make a movie out of these posts. I'm scared.

but yeah, upon rewatch Aliens fell off my list of favorite movies and Alien jumped up to favorite sci-fi movie and probably favorite horror.

Hah, yeah, that is pretty strange. I just remember LOVING Alien from beginning to end, even though everyone only talked about Aliens. So I just figured that Aliens was about to blow me away. What I didn't realize was that Aliens switched up the genres, and I don't like many action movies (outside of some superhero flicks and Die Hard, really).

love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

Pretty ballsy changing up genres for the sequel.

Yeah, that's why I can't really claim to have a problem with the movie. I respect Cameron doing his own take, but action just isn't my thing.
 
Hah, yeah, that is pretty strange. I just remember LOVING Alien from beginning to end, even though everyone only talked about Aliens. So I just figured that Aliens was about to blow me away. What I didn't realize was that Aliens switched up the genres, and I don't like many action movies (outside of some superhero flicks and Die Hard, really).

fuck man... let's have a kid. My wife will understand. You can raise it on weekends.
 
love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

I think Aliens is whatever you make of it. If you go into it with a "fuck yeah!" attitude, it'll support that. And if you go into it expecting to be scared/thrilled, it'll do that too.
 
love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

Pretty ballsy changing up genres for the sequel.

I thought the latino lady was the least annoying out of the entire space marines team lol, other than the android and the other guy that survived
 
so the whole biological warfare theory seems right. The room with the canisters that are layed out like the eggs in alien have the human face at the top. So one room with eggs and another with the humans. the perfect symbiotic relationship. They shoot them down to teh planet they want to corrupt and the rest is done. The space jockey would be the cannon that shoots them down. maybe. the last bit seems silly.
 
love Aliens, it's just straight up fun. I wanna kill that latino lady though. So annoying. I don't think it's meant to be scary, it's more of an action thriller.

Pretty ballsy changing up genres for the sequel.

Not ballsy, brilliant. Cameron knew another space horror would be drab in comparison to the original so making it an action/thriller was a stroke of genius. Also, Vasquez is one of the best characters in any movie I can think of. Nearly 30 years later I can say that name in a room full of 500 people and 450 of them will know exactly who I'm talking about. Say the name Dallas or Kane and a few geeks in the room might pick up on you. Both films are amazing, with lasting appeal. I adore Alien but Aliens to me is the better movie watching experience. Alien is the better flick when comparing art form.

Alien scared the shit out of me. Aliens gave me nightmares.
 
Pretty much all the characters in Aliens are memorable. It's a pretty great action movie.

But I don't think it's scary or has the same type of tension like Alien. I think it's only really creepy scene is when the Alien comes out of the water to grab Newt and the scene where Marines find the nest and see some of the harvested bodies. Aliens just dosent have a lot of slow tension scenes like when Brett is killed in Alien. Even the music feels more actiony.
 
Anybody have a 1080p PS3-friendly version?

As for the above poster, name me something scarier than the scene where Ripley decides to head back for Newt in Alien and encounters the Queen. This of course comes well after all the motion-tracker craziness and the first encounter where they're literally comin outta the goddamn walls. The first time you realise they're camoflaged against the walls is scary as fuck. Not to mention when you see on the tracker that one is coming dangerously close to Newt when she's stuck down below.
 
Anybody have a 1080p PS3-friendly version?

As for the above poster, name me something scarier than the scene where Ripley decides to head back for Newt in Alien and encounters the Queen. This of course comes well after all the motion-tracker craziness and the first encounter where they're literally comin outta the goddamn walls. The first time you realise they're camoflaged against the walls is scary as fuck. Not to mention when you see on the tracker that one is coming dangerously close to Newt when she's stuck down below.

Well I think the Newt scene is creepy, but not scary as its pretty obvious that's she's going to be grabbed. But the scenes when Riply is going Into the nest invoke feelings of fuck yeah! Go kill those things. By the time we've gotten to that scene I've seen the Aliens many times and I've seen them killed many times. They have lost their luster, I know their tricks. In Alien not only do you have the holy shit scene where you realize that it's still with Riply in her escape pod, but also when it kills Dallas. Those scenes are way more effective. Dallas, because you know shits about to go down , but not when, where, or how. It's the feeling of waiting that gets me. Also for the escape pod there's a sense of false peace, you know it's like "wait the movie is still going, oh god it's not over and then hey what's that?". I don't get many scenes that invoke something like that in Aliens, but then again I watched them when I was already a teenager and well I wouldn't expect them to scare me that much.

But yes the first encounter is pretty scary especially when the camera just shows them crawling.
 
Anybody have a 1080p PS3-friendly version?

As for the above poster, name me something scarier than the scene where Ripley decides to head back for Newt in Alien and encounters the Queen.

The scene in Alien where the captain goes into the ventilation shafts.

This of course comes well after all the motion-tracker craziness and the first encounter where they're literally comin outta the goddamn walls. The first time you realise they're camoflaged against the walls is scary as fuck.

Yes, that was scary... in the original Alien when it first happened.

Not to mention when you see on the tracker that one is coming dangerously close to Newt when she's stuck down below.

Sure it's scary... just not as scary as the original Alien. That's one of the main reasons Cameron made it an action movie instead.
 
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with this location.

And Aliens is scarier than Alien. People only remember guns going off and classify it as 'action' because their younger selves blocked out the scary parts to protect them. Much thicker sense of tension in Aliens than the first film. That is not saying it is better or anything attempting to fire people up, just that it is thick with tension that doesn't let up and just builds and builds. To remember what it was like, read Ebert's original review of Aliens.

I think Alien is scarier. Aliens is scary in an overwhelming way between the pure number of xenomorphs and how ferocious they are. But with Alien you drown in entrapment and futility. The alien feels entirely unknown until the last few minutes.
 
Well I think the Newt scene is creepy, but not scary as its pretty obvious that's she's going to be grabbed. But the scenes when Riply is going Into the nest invoke feelings of fuck yeah! Go kill those things. By the time we've gotten to that scene I've seen the Aliens many times and I've seen them killed many times. They have lost their luster, I know their tricks. In Alien not only do you have the holy shit scene where you realize that it's still with Riply in her escape pod, but also when it kills Dallas. Those scenes are way more effective. Dallas, because you know shits about to go down , but not when, where, or how. It's the feeling of waiting that gets me. Also for the escape pod there's a sense of false peace, you know it's like "wait the movie is still going, oh god it's not over and then hey what's that?". I don't get many scenes that invoke something like that in Aliens, but then again I watched them when I was already a teenager and well I wouldn't expect them to scare me that much.

But yes the first encounter is pretty scary especially when the camera just shows them crawling.

Except that that is not what the scene seems to make anybody else feel. Largely because we know there is an unseen presence responsible for all the eggs. That is the unseen in Aliens. Ripley isn't crawling into a vent that an alien is crawling around, she is descending lower and lower into a hive full of them and their hatchery. Then you hear the Alien Queen's breathing.

As for the false sense of security that you get when Ripley boards the Narcissus in Alien - agreed its great when the surprise comes. But its not nearly as surprising as seeing Bishop 's friendly pat on the back interrupted by the tail of the Alien Queen ripping him in half, before she descends from the landing gear.

Nope. Aliens is scarier. I'm not arguing its better (not in this thread, anyway). Just that it is much, much scarier. And that people who argue the opposite usually seem to be suffering from alzheimers as they only seem to remember guns going off and none of what actually happened.
 
I think Alien is scarier. Aliens is scary in an overwhelming way between the pure number of xenomorphs and how ferocious they are. But with Alien you drown in entrapment and futility. The alien feels entirely unknown until the last few minutes.

The Alien in Alien also feels invincible. Like a force of nature. Death incarnate. It's pure helplessness. These people are trapped, paranoid and helpless.

The overwhelming odds and atmosphere of aliens should be scary, but it didn't actually scare me upon rewatch. The third movie even had a scene that was a little spooky, but I didn't get scared when I watched Aliens. Maybe the scene and the situation is scary, but the presentation itself felt like a "scary scene" in an action movie with a boo here or there.
I'm not hard to scare either.

If aliens is scarier over all... I don't knwo how they do it, because they don't dedicate as much time in the movie to it and the moments of thrills or exhilaration they seem to reach for and the film is famous for must have been hard earned.
 
Nope. Aliens is scarier. I'm not arguing its better (not in this thread, anyway). Just that it is much, much scarier.

If the people arguing otherwise are infected by Alzheimer's, then your James Cameron infection has made you totally loopy. Aliens is not "much, much scarier" than Alien. If only for the simple reason that the aliens are mortal and more akin to a bunch of deadly bugs than the demonic alien of the first film. An individual alien in Aliens isn't nearly as scary as the original, they just overwhelm people with numbers. Or by using a "super" version with the Queen.
 
Except that that is not what the scene seems to make anybody else feel. Largely because we know there is an unseen presence responsible for all the eggs. That is the unseen in Aliens. Ripley isn't crawling into a vent that an alien is crawling around, she is descending lower and lower into a hive full of them and their hatchery. Then you hear the Alien Queen's breathing.

As for the false sense of security that you get when Ripley boards the Narcissus in Alien - agreed its great when the surprise comes. But its not nearly as surprising as seeing Bishop 's friendly pat on the back interrupted by the tail of the Alien Queen ripping him in half, before she descends from the landing gear.

Nope. Aliens is scarier. I'm not arguing its better (not in this thread, anyway). Just that it is much, much scarier. And that people who argue the opposite usually seem to be suffering from alzheimers as they only seem to remember guns going off and none of what actually happened.

Alien is more of the slow burn scary. The realization that inevitably, you are fucked. It just has so much stillness before the horror comes.

Aliens is more the relentless "no matter what we do, we are fucked" horror. Both films are totally different types of scary, and perfect examples of both.

There is a feeling of hopelessness to both films, which adds to the horror. I would not call one scarier than the other, but I would say that Alien is the better horror film, but Aliens is the more intense film. I take my Cameron milkshakes straight from the tap like you, Sculli. But I just don't know if I would say Aliens is that much scarier than Alien.
 
I enoyed Aliens, but cmon. It is a dudebro movie with action and (some) suspense.

Alien is all about the tension, horror and pacing. It is completely at another level of awesome.
 
I enoyed Aliens, but cmon. It is a dudebro movie with action and (some) suspense.

Alien is all about the tension, horror and pacing. It is completely at another level of awesome.

Let's not generalize too much there. Aliens is a perfect example of how to do suspense, horror, and action all at the same time. It is simply a different beast than Alien, yet still a magnificent beast.
 
Anybody have a 1080p PS3-friendly version?

As for the above poster, name me something scarier than the scene where Ripley decides to head back for Newt in Alien and encounters the Queen. This of course comes well after all the motion-tracker craziness and the first encounter where they're literally comin outta the goddamn walls. The first time you realise they're camoflaged against the walls is scary as fuck. Not to mention when you see on the tracker that one is coming dangerously close to Newt when she's stuck down below.

Those scenes are not scary, they are thrilling and always followed by action. Alien is a much scarier movie because it has that isolated, claustrophobic feel. Plus the single Alien is frightening and not just cannon fooder like in the other movies.
 
This thread and trailer has hyped me so much I am going to watch Aliens and Alien again.

It will be like my 110th time watching Aliens again.
 
Those scenes are not scary, they are thrilling and always followed by action. Alien is a much scarier movie because it has that isolated, claustrophobic feel. Plus the single Alien is frightening and not just cannon fooder like in the other movies.

I guess part of what makes Aliens scary is that the humans aren't just treated as shallow cannon-fodder, so I'm interested in what happens to a few of them. :O

*Mission Impossible Fuse Cue*
 
Have you seen Immortals? He's a dick in that one too and I kept wondering why I should sympathize with him. I can't actually remember a version of Zeus where he's not a dick.

Kicking the shit out of Zeus in God of War 2 was the most satisfying thing ever. Fucking Athena...
 
Aliens is way scarier. Utterly horrifying. When I listen to all those lines from Cameron's ridiculous caricatures it's as if a million chestbursters have simultaneously evacuated from my brain. Alien can't compare to that at all! Only Avatar can.
 
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