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[Branduil]

Aliens is way scarier. Utterly horrifying. When I listen to all those lines from Cameron's ridiculous caricatures it's as if a million chestbursters have simultaneously evacuated from my brain. Alien can't compare to that at all! Only Avatar can.

Game over, man. Game over.

 

[Staccat0]

I guess part of what makes Aliens scary is that the humans aren't just treated as shallow cannon-fodder, so I'm interested in what happens to a few of them. :O

*Mission Impossible Fuse Cue*

It's getting real, Even god himself stepped down to get involved.
GAME OVER MAN!

serious shit... Deep stuff... Game over man...

EDIT! WTF!? Beatne???

 

[AAequal]

Has the R-rated version been confirmed? If it is does it mean it will release same day as the regular BD/DVD or are these still unconfirmed rumors/facts?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Wait a second, people. We're getting away from what's important.

Somebody give me access to a 1080p PS3 friendly copy of the trailer. Then I'll pretend to agree with whatever you want.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

 

[nomis]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

You are avoiding internet conflict! HOW DARE YOU?

Spoiler

Agreed on all points.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

I put both on equal ground. I just think Aliens goes further in terms of pants-shitting fear and tension.

 

[Branduil]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

I agree with judging both films on what they try to be, and I agree that Alien is a perfect horror movie. Aliens is a good action movie, but it has several flaws that I can't completely overlook.

Another point for Alien being scarier- in Alien, you really didn't know who was going to live. It wasn't immediately obvious that Ripley was the main character. Having a clear protagonist isn't a flaw, exactly, but it does reduce the tension when you know Ripley will at least survive until the end of the movie.

 

[SpacLock]

I really don't feel like typing more than a sentence or two, so I'll just say that I prefer Alien over Aliens. Both great movies.

 

[Staccat0]

I really don't feel like typing more than a sentence or two, so I'll just say that I prefer Alien over Aliens. Both great movies.

DAT CUPLET

 

[brianjones]

Another point for Alien being scarier- in Alien, you really didn't know who was going to live. It wasn't immediately obvious that Ripley was the main character. Having a clear protagonist isn't a flaw, exactly, but it does reduce the tension when you know Ripley will at least survive until the end of the movie.

i guess i never made this connection cause i was always aware of aliens

 

[Kattbuss]

HOLY SHIT at that trailer!
Can't fucking wait!

 

[Branduil]

i guess i never made this connection cause i was always aware of aliens

Well you can't really put the genie back in the bottle now, but it was definitely a deliberate decision to make Alien that way.

 

[Timbuktu]

Anybody have a 1080p PS3-friendly version?

you can convert the Apple trailer from .mov to mp4 with pass-through for everything, only takes a second.

 

[Staccat0]

Well you can't really put the genie back in the bottle now, but it was definitely a deliberate decision to make Alien that way.

I remember being surprised as a kid that the lady & cat made it. I was VERY concerned for that cat's safety.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

you can convert the Apple trailer from .mov to mp4 with pass-through for everything, only takes a second.

Pass....through?

 

[Replicant]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

Same here. They're interesting in different ways. Aliens also surprised me because it's one of those rare JC movies I genuinely like and watch quite often. With his other films I normally just feel "meh" towards them. Nice to watch for their actions but rarely have characters that I like. So to me they don't have repeats value. Aliens have bucketloads of them.

 

[Staccat0]

Same here. They're interesting in different ways. Aliens also surprised me because it's one of those rare JC movies I genuinely like and watch quite often. With his other films I normally just feel "meh" towards them. Nice to watch for their actions but rarely have characters that I like. So to me they don't have repeats value. Aliens have bucketloads of them.

Replicant

 

[Timbuktu]

Pass....through?

Pass-through as in keeping the video and the sound the same, just changing the file to mpeg-4 format spec, i useD the old quicktime pro. Hold on, i've done it, will upload it somewhere. 5 minutes.

 

[E-phonk]

To me Alien is definitely the better movie. It's visually more exciting, has better dialogs (but less quotable one-liners, Aliens wins that one), and more tension, especially watching it without knowing everything about the sequels and who will survive.
The blu-ray version is beautiful, even today.

 

[Replicant]

Replicant

I think, therefore I am.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Pass-through as in keeping the video and the sound the same, just changing the file to mpeg-4 format spec, i useD the old quicktime pro. Hold on, i've done it, will upload it somewhere. 5 minutes.

Ah, okay nevermind! Doing it now on QT pro. Didn't know QT pro even offered that. Cheers.

 

[Discotheque]

just saw Alien on BluRay a couple of days ago. Holy shit, it's like it was made yesterday. The transfer on that film is ridiculous. I hope Aliens looks just as good.

 

[Puddles]

I seem to be in the minority that puts both Alien and Aliens at equal stature. Both are scary as hell and perfect examples of certain genres. Alien is a perfect horror movie, while Aliens is a perfect action film (that happens to be scary as well).

They use different techniques.

Alien plays on our fears of what may be around the corner and our fear of the dark. The ship is a pretty large environment, and there's only one adversary, but it's impossible for them to track. It could be anywhere.

Aliens uses claustrophobia and a sense of impending doom. It's a siege film on its most basic level.

 

[terminallyChill]

To me Alien is definitely the better movie. It's visually more exciting, has better dialogs (but less quotable one-liners, Aliens wins that one), and more tension, especially watching it without knowing everything about the sequels and who will survive.
The blu-ray version is beautiful, even today.

Agree with all of these points.
I also prefer how Alien focuses on just one of the xenomorphs. Killing loads of them in the sequel made them seem like less of an adversary (or less special)to me. I know that the characters were soldiers in Aliens, but that's also part of why I prefer Alien.

 

[Krev]

Well you can't really put the genie back in the bottle now, but it was definitely a deliberate decision to make Alien that way.

Interesting aside: the script originally ended with Ripley escaping in the shuttle, but Ridley Scott wanted to add in the scene where she fights the alien at the very end. His plan was for the alien to bite her head off.

Thank fuck we didn't get that ending.

 

[Staccat0]

Interesting aside: the script originally ended with Ripley escaping in the shuttle, but Ridley Scott wanted to add in the scene where she fights the alien at the very end. His plan was for the alien to bite her head off.

Thank fuck we didn't get that ending.

That would have been insane though....

That movie has some wierd visual flair with the alien's movements. The scene where she catches it sleeping. thet weird deleted scene with the akward crab walk thing.
I bet a head bite would have been fucking intense at that final moment of the movie.

but probably a worse ending...

 

[jonremedy]

Pass-through as in keeping the video and the sound the same, just changing the file to mpeg-4 format spec, i useD the old quicktime pro. Hold on, i've done it, will upload it somewhere. 5 minutes.

wait... The MP4 container is EXACTLY the same as the MOV container isn't it? Can't you just rename the file to .mp4 if that's what the PS3 is having problems with?

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14

 

[Timbuktu]

wait... The MP4 container is EXACTLY the same as the MOV container isn't it? Can't you just rename the file to .mp4 if that's what the PS3 is having problems with?

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14

They are the same codec but different containers.

Container benefits
Because both MOV and MP4 containers can use the same MPEG-4 codecs, they are mostly interchangeable in a QuickTime-only environment. MP4, being an international standard, has more support. This is especially true on hardware devices, such as the Sony PSP and various DVD players; on the software side, most DirectShow / Video for Windows codec packs[25][26] include an MP4 parser, but not one for MOV.
In QuickTime Pro's MPEG-4 Export dialog, an option called "Passthrough" allows a clean export to MP4 without affecting the audio or video streams. One recent discrepancy ushered in by QuickTime 7 is that the MOV file format now supports multichannel audio (used, for example, in the high-definition trailers on Apple's site[27]), while support for audio in the MP4 container is limited to stereo.[citation needed] Therefore multichannel audio must be re-encoded during MP4 export.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime#QuickTime_and_MPEG-4

 

[jonremedy]

They are the same codec but different containers.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime#QuickTime_and_MPEG-4

Aha. Thanks

 

[Anteater]

Interesting aside: the script originally ended with Ripley escaping in the shuttle, but Ridley Scott wanted to add in the scene where she fights the alien at the very end. His plan was for the alien to bite her head off.

Thank fuck we didn't get that ending.

Yea I read that the alien was going to mimick her voice too or something reading from the imdb faq:

Yes. The film was originally going to end with Ripley simply escaping in the shuttle and the Alien dying aboard the Nostromo as it self-destructed. However, Ridley Scott then conceived of a 'fourth act' in which Ripley had to face the Alien again, as it had managed to stow away aboard the shuttle. His intention was to end the movie on a dark note, with the Alien biting Ripley's head off, and then mimicking her voice as it made a final log entry. He convinced the studio to allow for extra budget and filming days. The studio agreed, but only on the condition that the Alien would still die at the end. That is how the current ending came about.

 

[RedShift]

I feel that ending would have traumatised me greatly

 

[Feature]

Will there be nudity in this movie? Judging from that first screenshot there will be...

 

[Anteater]

Will there be nudity in this movie? Judging from that first screenshot there will be...

Doesn't seem like it, she's wearing some kind of space underwear

oh yea I think that dude beside the space jockey seat might be the bald guy in this screenshot as well:

 

[Shadow of the BEAST]

as much as avatar sucked. Im glad that it made it possible again to make good high budget scifi.

Im so tired of super hero movies.

 

[Suairyu]

Allow me to go all English Literature on your asses and make the following claim:

Alien is terror, Aliens is horror.

Quick Wiki summary:

Terror is usually described as the feeling of dread and anticipation that precedes the horrifying experience. By contrast, horror is the feeling of revulsion that usually occurs after something frightening is seen, heard, or otherwise experienced.

Both films contain elements of both, obviously. Chest-burster is pure horror, the beginning of Aliens and the beep beep beep is terror. But once both settle into their second acts, a very clear divide becomes apparent. Alien makes you afraid of the dark. Aliens makes you afraid of the HOLY SHIT THOSE MONSTERS COMING OUT OF THE DARK.

They're very different flavours of fear.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Except that both feature moments of horror and terror. But yes, I too learned the difference in the study of the abject in Gothic fiction.

The chest-burster scene is the realization of that abject fear - as is the chest-burster scene in Aliens, along with the penetration of Bishop.

There is certainly a larger build of of dread (read:terror) in Aliens as many fears are compounded onto one another.

 

[Moaradin]

This doesn't look very PG-13 to me. Looks freaking intense.

 

[Discotheque]

Im so tired of super hero movies.

forreal, super hero movies are boooooooring as hell now. I can't really find myself to care about any coming up but Iron Man 3 (for the director only) and Batman 3 (which I'm honestly kind of getting less hyped about somehow)

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

forreal, super hero movies are boooooooring as hell now. I can't really find myself to care about any coming up but Iron Man 3 (for the director only) and Batman 3 (which I'm honestly kind of getting less hyped about somehow)

Well, those you mentioned plus Superman for me. Oh, and 2012's Judge Dredd because Alex Garland is behind the script.

 

[Shadow of the BEAST]

judge dread isnt a super hero though is he?

Thats more of a sci fi comic

 

[symphonask]

Another point for Alien being scarier- in Alien, you really didn't know who was going to live. It wasn't immediately obvious that Ripley was the main character. Having a clear protagonist isn't a flaw, exactly, but it does reduce the tension when you know Ripley will at least survive until the end of the movie.

Good point. I believe it was in one of the Alien docs on the anthology set that someone stated (possibly Dan O'Bannon?) that most people on first viewing thought Dallas was the main protagonist, and that it was intentionally made that way. Which is probably also why they wanted a complete unknown for the role of Ripley at the time.

 

[strafer]

Still awesome

 

[Suairyu]

Except that both feature moments of horror and terror. But yes, I too learned the difference in the study of the abject in Gothic fiction.

The chest-burster scene is the realization of that abject fear - as is the chest-burster scene in Aliens, along with the penetration of Bishop.

There is certainly a larger build of of dread (read:terror) in Aliens as many fears are compounded onto one another.

I did acknowledge both containing scenes of both, including the chest burster scene. But is say it is difficult to deny that on the whole each leans towards a particular type of fear.

 

[madkiller]

Trailer Breakdown by Empire
http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown/

 

[EatChildren]

Comparing Aliens to Alien, as if the former even holds a candle to the sci-fi masterpiece of cinema that is Alien.

smh

 

[Veidt]

the scale here is so fucking massive.

 

[strafer]

Bioware for the Prometheus videogame?

 

[Lennington]

I'm guessing the crew on the Prometheus ship steal something from a space jockey ruin on the first planet in the trailer, then try return to Earth with it, bringing on the space jockey wrath in the process. Would make sense with the mythology.

The ship and the film sharing the same name is not coincidence. The crew will be stealing fire from the gods and suffering for it.

[edit] I actually kinda want to see this in 3D, purely for the star map scene!

 

[AdventureRacing]

As for the above poster, name me something scarier than the scene where Ripley decides to head back for Newt in Alien and encounters the Queen. This of course comes well after all the motion-tracker craziness and the first encounter where they're literally comin outta the goddamn walls. The first time you realise they're camoflaged against the walls is scary as fuck. Not to mention when you see on the tracker that one is coming dangerously close to Newt when she's stuck down below.

I don't think this scene was all that scary and i never really doubted that Ripley was going to save Newt and get out.

I love aliens and it's one of my most watched movies but it doesn't even compare to alien in terms of being scary.