PlayStation Vita Japanese Launch Thread. "APOCALYPTIC!" says concerned Nuclear Muffin

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Loonz said:
Sorry for the Off-topic, but even though I'm aware this is the main reason for the typical mistyping of the "r" and the "l" in Japanese - Chinese - Korean language speakers I've always thought it's BS. When you learn a word, you should learn its written form exactly as it is. So when there is an "l", type an "l" and not an "r" even though you can't tell the difference by sound. I feel something is not going well in the way most Asian people learn foreign languages, because this kind of (otherwise simple) errors are commonplace.

I swear I'll never understand this problem.
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The Japanese language has a lot of words which have been imported from English. When importing a word from English, each sound has to be transliterated into Japanese characters, and they are transliterated into whatever is the closest fit for that sound. The sounds "L" and "R" are both transliterated into the same characters (ラ, リ, ル, レ, ロ - ra, ri, ru, re, ro), because these Japanese characters are the closest fit for both of these English letters.

Then, a Japanese game developer wants to write one of these English imported words using English characters, because that looks cooler. The word here is "congratulations", or in Japanese characters, コングラチュレーションズ. Oh shit, there's that レ. Was that originally transliterated from an R, or an L? I don't know, I'm Japanese. I guess wrong.

In short, it's because both of these letters are mapped onto the same Japanese characters, and then when attempting to map them back, you don't know which one it originally came from.

But yeah, it shouldn't happen and they should have people check it before they publish the game.

Anyway, sorry to be off topic; please continue discussing the Vita :)
 
dofry said:
Sony is surely going to put out a new firmware before western release. There are a few nagging things I have currently.

- The browser is currently very limited because there is not a lot of support for even the basic stuff. Even videos posted on sony blogs don't work so not going to read those from Vita. Update clearly needed.
- There are some random, but luckily rare glitches when booting a software. Sometimes Vita says "the file is corrupted" and doesn't start e.g. Minna to isshoni, or twitter app. Booting the device removed that problem. Only has appeared twice during the week of testing.
- There are no controls for video sizes, so my mis-rendered, 4:3 or other videos cannot be blown to fullscreen size. No creation of movie frame for the video, if it doesnt have one. No looping of a single video, only play everything once.
- Live spaces show progress in game, but it doesn't show all of them, just recent ones, so you can't backtrack on everything you did.
- When downloading stuff from PSN store, and you don't have enough space on the memory card, Vita shows a random error screen instead of telling "not enough space".
- The wifi power saving makes it confusing to know when you are online and when not.
- You can accidentally put the usb cable upside down on the Vita.
- Vita takes over the PS3 totally when connected via USB so no using the PS3 which is not convenient. I would like to transfer stuff, and do something else on the ps3 during that time.

Not all very important but needs to be cleared. I still love the device a lot and I can see this being a hit in the west easily, but these small things need to be fixed.
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I'd agree with nearly all of these having had the machine since the 21st
Doesn't detract from the amazing piece of kit is, of all of them the browser needs an upgrade for sure and the taking over of the PS3 when plugged in really f***ed me off earlier today when I was transferring my psn purchases and running a backup - both machines are basically out of commission when you do any transfer presently!
 
Do we think we'll need to redownload psp games after Feb 22nd to tranfer them, or should I be ok downloading them now to save time, and it'll just be a backend psn update that is needed to enable them?

I want a bunch of psp games on vita but I'll also be downloading a few vita games so want to 'preload' some games onto the ps3 to save time
 
Do we think we'll need to redownload psp games after Feb 22nd to tranfer them
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yes, you will - i've had to do this for all my Japanese games.

It dumps them all out side of the PSP catergory as well so now i have a long chain of PSP games in my PS3 XMB :/
 
Got my Vita import yesterday. I'm pretty happy with it, but there is something wrong with
some of the pixels when the screen is totally black (and I have to sit in a pitch black room to notice it). Some of the pixels appear more black than others like they are switched off or something. Anyone else had this problem?
 
Renasu said:
Got my Vita import yesterday. I'm pretty happy with it, but there is something wrong with
some of the pixels when the screen is totally black (and I have to sit in a pitch black room to notice it). Some of the pixels appear more black than others like they are switched off or something. Anyone else had this problem?
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I have this as well, it's not a dealbreaker for me as I don't play in pitch black though.
 
Renasu said:
Got my Vita import yesterday. I'm pretty happy with it, but there is something wrong with
some of the pixels when the screen is totally black (and I have to sit in a pitch black room to notice it). Some of the pixels appear more black than others like they are switched off or something. Anyone else had this problem?
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$h@d0w said:
I have this as well, it's not a dealbreaker for me as I don't play in pitch black though.
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Are you guys talking about the black blotches someone posted a few pages ago? how common is that thing. It looks pretty scary.
 
shesh it happens in my Samsung S2 too, looks like it's a characteristic of an oled screen, you have to be in a pitch black room to notice it
 
Jinfash said:
It's actually a post from the "issues" thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33647663&postcount=111

Are you experiencing the same issue?
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Yes definitely, the exact same thing. Luckily my black blotches are to the side of the screen and not in the center... Does indeed seem to be an issue with OLED screens. While it's a bummer, its really not noticeable unless you are sitting in a pitch black room and quite a large portion of the screen goes all black for a little while (so your eyes can adapt to the darkness)

It's kinda annoying to know it's there though, so I hope it's not a very widespread issue...
 
m0dus said:
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Wow wow wow. These look amazing already.
 
I just had an idea, it would be awesome if someone who has a Vita, would create a public google document that has all the games with westren or announced games and all the PSP games that Vita supports.
 
Renasu said:
Yes definitely, the exact same thing. Luckily my black blotches are to the side of the screen and not in the center... Does indeed seem to be an issue with OLED screens. While it's a bummer, its really not noticeable unless you are sitting in a pitch black room and quite a large portion of the screen goes all black for a little while (so your eyes can adapt to the darkness)

It's kinda annoying to know it's there though, so I hope it's not a very widespread issue...
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Holy cow thats horrible. I mean I recently bought a Moto Triumph phone and I could see dark spots which werent near as bad and returned that POS for another one asap! I'd be pissed if the Vita had that if I were to import.
 
Renasu said:
Yes definitely, the exact same thing. Luckily my black blotches are to the side of the screen and not in the center... Does indeed seem to be an issue with OLED screens. While it's a bummer, its really not noticeable unless you are sitting in a pitch black room and quite a large portion of the screen goes all black for a little while (so your eyes can adapt to the darkness)

It's kinda annoying to know it's there though, so I hope it's not a very widespread issue...
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What you guys are seeing are probably just manufacturing effects of the OLED screen.
It shouldn't be too much of an issue since it's not a dead pixel that is black throughout color :D

I imagine we will see alot of this to be honest, iirc people get a glimpse of this on normal LED TV's also, its just not as noticeable.
 
dofry said:
Should not be as using an external HDD is easier than this. Like the simplicity of it, that you only plug in and you handle everything else from the Vita by just tapping the screen, but there are these limitations. Why can't I access the PS3 straight using wifi?
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When you're transferring media with an external, you're still stuck on a transfer screen with the PS3.
 
g35twinturbo said:
What you guys are seeing are probably just manufacturing effects of the OLED screen.
It shouldn't be too much of an issue since it's not a dead pixel that is black throughout color :D

I imagine we will see alot of this to be honest, iirc people get a glimpse of this on normal LED TV's also, its just not as noticeable.
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My Zune HD's OLED screen is pitch black even in complete darkness, so maybe it's a defect on some of them.
 
VanWinkle said:
My Zune HD's OLED screen is pitch black even in complete darkness, so maybe it's a defect on some of them.
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right, like I said.

Could just be a manufacture defect, sucks but I imagine we will see more of this later on.
People will be pissed im sure, even though they can't really see it unless they are in a super dark screen.
 
Bukana said:
^

Looks gorgeous, is an offline MMO!? It reminded me of FFXII.
I hope it gets an NA release.
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It's a combination of Monster Hunter and Phantasy Star Online. No online multiplayer, but you have bots to help you.
 
twentytwo22 said:
You can for the ones you "hire", you can't for the story ones.

But basically, yes, you can.
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22, did you use the ones you hired for something else than world conquest? Just curious.

Also, I've been wondering about making a LoA thread, so that people playing (I guess there's at least 3 of us) can exchange opinions, tactics and stuff. Well, to be honest, not one thing in the game really gave me any problems, but anyway...
 
Keiician said:
22, did you use the ones you hired for something else than world conquest? Just curious.

Also, I've been wondering about making a LoA thread, so that people playing (I guess there's at least 3 of us) can exchange opinions, tactics and stuff. Well, to be honest, not one thing in the game really gave me any problems, but anyway...
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I haven't yet, no! Flipped through some story NPCs to see who I like but honestly it hasn't made a huge difference thus far.

I'm still only in Chapter 5, though. Definitely working my way through it. After work tomorrow, I'll have about 9 days off -- will probably clear a lot of games!
 
Keiician said:
Why doesn't it work on Vita! ><
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it doesn't? I shouldn't buy it?!! I have the original on UMD but I don't have a PSP anymore so I need to know.

twentytwo22 said:
I haven't yet, no! Flipped through some story NPCs to see who I like but honestly it hasn't made a huge difference thus far.

I'm still only in Chapter 5, though. Definitely working my way through it. After work tomorrow, I'll have about 9 days off -- will probably clear a lot of games!
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Btw 22, any way you can record a 10min gameplay of LOA?
 
madmaxx350 said:
it doesn't? I shouldn't buy it?!! I have the original on UMD but I don't have a PSP anymore so I need to know.
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From what I read just now, they wanted to put it in the Vita store, but there were some problems and it's unknown if they release the PSPs for Vita (1, 2 or 2 Infinity).
 
patsu said:
If they implement the PS3 Vita connectivity like a background download thread, then perhaps the PS3 can multitask while Vita is connected.

But if they implement the Vita connectivity as a full app/process, then the entire PS3 will be tied up.
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Zoe said:
When you're transferring media with an external, you're still stuck on a transfer screen with the PS3.
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Yup. Yup. PS4 background copying imminent. Well, I did send my found bugs/annoyances to Sony just for fun. and tweeted to Yoshida.


madmaxx350 said:
it doesn't? I shouldn't buy it?!! I have the original on UMD but I don't have a PSP anymore so I need to know.


Btw 22, any way you can record a 10min gameplay of LOA?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvANniaPdjo
 
Keiician said:
From what I read just now, they wanted to put it in the Vita store, but there were some problems and it's unknown if they release the PSPs for Vita (1, 2 or 2 Infinity).
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I think infinity PSP2 is on the US Store, couldn't I buy it and store it on my PS3 and just transfer it over to the Vita? That, technically, should work ,right?
 
madmaxx350 said:
I think infinity is on the US Store, couldn't I buy it and store it on my PS3 and just transfer it over to the Vita? That, technically, should work ,right?
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If I understand this right, if something isn't in the PSVita store in the PSP section, you can't play it on Vita. Will probably just give corrupt file or something.
Y2Kev said:
Has anyone posted Army Corps impressions?
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Yeah, they're a few pages back, quite long. Don't remember whose though.
 
Keiician said:
If I understand this right, if something isn't in the PSVita store in the PSP section, you can't play it on Vita. Will probably just give corrupt file or something.

Yeah, they're a few pages back, quite long. Don't remember whose though.
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Fuck, That doesn't sound good. I bought a lot of games on there and they have taken PSP2 off the store.
 
I think DCharlie talked about it briefly, seemed to like it too( I'll see if I can find the post).
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Yup - someone else added extra thoughts that they thought the game was good - however, i talked to someone who played through most of an early version who raised some concerns that i suspected may show up later in the game.

I'm slowly working through each game i've got at the moment, will let you know how i feel longer term as soon as i can (Xmas day today though, so low games playing chances)

If I understand this right, if something isn't in the PSVita store in the PSP section, you can't play it on Vita. Will probably just give corrupt file or something.
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not quite - you will have to redownload ALL your games once US Vita goes live. What happens right now is that , even if you redownload US games, it simply doesn't show up for transfer between the PSV and PS3 in the new Content Manager. Transfering from PS3 to PSV isn't the same as with PSP.
 
so I wanted to check on a few things before committing to buying a Vita from another person on GAF who had imported it from Japan

so from what I've read it is possible to play my PSP games off US PSN since my PS3 is at 4.0, I'll just have to redownload them to have the install bubble instead of them being installed on my PS3 right?

also so if it's the 3G version it's pretty much useless in America since from what I've read apparently it comes locked to DoCoMo?
 
graywolf323 said:
so from what I've read it is possible to play my PSP games off US PSN since my PS3 is at 4.0, I'll just have to redownload them to have the install bubble instead of them being installed on my PS3 right?
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You can only play PSP games that are sold on the JP Vita store. You'll have to wait for the US Vita store to go live before you can play any of your games. The only US games that work at the moment are those that are compatible with remote play, such as PSone games.
 
so from what I've read it is possible to play my PSP games off US PSN since my PS3 is at 4.0, I'll just have to redownload them to have the install bubble instead of them being installed on my PS3 right?
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this will only work once PSV launches in the US and at that point you'll have to redownload all your softwares.
 
areal said:
You can only play PSP games that are sold on the JP Vita store. You'll have to wait for the US Vita store to go live before you can play any of your games. The only US games that work at the moment are those that are compatible with remote play, such as PSone games.
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so this post was wrong then?

KoukiFC said:
Alright thanks. Looks like I'll be importing more Vita games.

I read that it was possible in another forum. Here are the steps he gave:

FYI, you can transfer us psp games over to the vita

Log on to your account
Activate it with account management
Connect vita to ps3 and activate usb connection
Download psp game to ps3 with firmware 4.0
Click on bubble and select copy
Vita will start the transfer
Install and play!

Whats even better, if you have 2 cards, you can play us/jpn content while logged into jpn/us psn account with a small trick
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Merry Christmas!

Japanese Vita owners, I am one of us. Add me to your friends list: CheesemeisterJP Cheesemeister3k. My US account is Cheesemeister, but I'm not in a big hurry to factory reset.
 
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