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Fall 2011 Anime Thread |OT2| The Tampire is Coming

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Jex

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darkside31337 said:
I thought that too since he's called him a hack and had other things to say about him as well. I'm stunned Jexhius has never seen a Shinkai movie before.
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When you quote someone saying something, make sure you quoting them accurately and that you've not misinterpreted . For example, sarcasm. I think if I was going to actually call someone a hack I'd probably bring more to the table than "tru dat". If you've read any of my earlier posts about anime you might be aware that I look to go into quite a bit of detail when I'm complaining about a director.

Also, I've never watched 5 cm/s per second all the way through, but I've seen part of it, and read extensively about all the films he's made. This allows me know what kind of themes and ideas he generally works with.
 
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Branduil

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Uchip said:
well
wouldnt the praise go to his team that is drawing this shit?
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I'm pretty sure Shinkai still draws a lot himself, or at least closely supervises the drawings, given how similar his full-length films look to Voices, which he did by himself. It's entirely fair to credit him for dem clouds since I can't think of anyone else in the industry with his exact style.
 
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Uchip

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Branduil said:
I'm pretty sure Shinkai still draws a lot himself, or at least closely supervises the drawings, given how similar his full-length films look to Voices, which he did by himself. It's entirely fair to credit him for dem clouds since I can't think of anyone else in the industry with his exact style.
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then he is indeed the cloud master
 
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hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
Steroyd said:
Hold up!

That sounds like every shounen protagonist ever.

I refuse to call Luffy moe, I refuse.
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darkside31337 said:
That might be the worst definition of moe I have ever read. I am impressed.
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It's actually a very effective narrative definition. Narratively speaking, that is exactly what a moe character tends to be, but a moe character isn't moe on narrative alone. This narrative is given context via character traits, both visual and personality driven. For example, you won't find Luffy, or any shounen hero worth his salt break down and cry at the first sign of violence, but rather you'd find a young timid romance moeblob break down like a deer in the headlights first thing. Visual and Character moe elements are so varied that it's impossible to give a general definition as to their behavior, but the narrative DOES follow a (very general) trend. And this (again, VERY general) trend (transitional stage in life, unknown potential) is narratively distinct form shounen as well. Think about it, a Shounen figure always achieves his potential ON HIS OWN. You can argue "through the strength of friends" and all that, but all in all, the MC of a shounen does the toughest dirty work to get himself to that creeping peak of power. A moe figure, with little exception, achieves her potential THROUGH OTHERS, or to be most specific, the "Big Brother" character. Where a Brother figure does not exist, such a role is instead placed on the audience where we get into much more complicated communication and literary theories. The best example of this is Clannad, a show where the the Top Moe would not have achieved her potential if it was not handed to her by families and friends. Just think of any show where the Top Moe was given at the least validation and thus was able to achieve her potential ONLY after being given that validation or help and would not have managed at all otherwise.

There are exceptions to this difference. There will be more of them made in the future. They will always exist on one level or another. This is why the narrative definition the writer gave was so vague. Moe is a very, very difficult thing to define and is easier to define by what it causes rather what it actually is. It's like trying to define a runny nose by only one of any thousands of possible causes. It's just not going to work the way you think it should and you're going to read way too much into it for your own good unless you know what you're doing.

cajunator said:
Moe is just cuteness being cute.
Hnnngh for the sake of hnnngh.
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I won't... disagree?

trejo said:
Actually, I wouldn't hold it against him if he were to skip Place but Voices is a must.
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Branduil said:
Places is good.
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Place Promised is far and away better than Voices. Though I suppose that Voices is a necessity to gain an in-depth look into Shinkai's work. His best are 5cm/s and Place Promised.
 
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trejo

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Branduil said:
Kuraudo no aware
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It's all the same film anyway.

Except his latest one which is crap.
 
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hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
Geneijin said:
Amagami SS+ PV1 and PV2

And uh, NSFW.
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Sex Hair is always Best Hair.

Halycon said:
It's all the same film anyway.

Except his latest one which is crap.
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Hey are you gonna down the guy for having a similar film pacing style? Would Oshii be Oshii without the meticulous pacing with the bursts of high octane action? Shinkai has a style designed for dissonance and tension and it works well. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
Go_Ly_Dow

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Jexhius said:
[5 Centimetres Per Second]
I couldn't really get to grips with the protagonist, which might be where the problems arise.
I understand that he's spent his life pining for this girl, but whenever we see him he seems oddly detached from everyone around him, which may well be the point. But still, he seems to have been interested in people in the past and has had an off-screen relationship, but apart from that I can't even picture him sitting down with friends to watch a movie. He's just busy brooding somewhere.

In the end we see him smile, presumably suggesting that he's moved on from his obsession. I can't really say that I'm convinced about that, but as the movie is 60 minutes long there's not really any time for covering any more ground.
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That and the fact he carried on walking forward instead of turning around and pursuing the girl he saw at the tracks
 
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Unknown Soldier

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Ben-To 8:

No fighting over half-price boxed lunches makes me sad.

Sega Saturn was a piece of shit. My younger cousin had one, and it sucked. Well, whatever.
 
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GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
So in PD 24, what's the song that plays during the
fate transfer
? Best song in the show
 
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Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Please tell me season 3 of Working!! is already in the oven. :( I hate the end of seasons precisely because of shit like this.

Penguindrum over, Working!! over... My heart is shattering into pieces.
 
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Unknown Soldier

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Ben-To 9:

A whole episode about Shiraume. It was boring. Even the fanservice was boring in this episode.

I did learn that high school diplomacy in Japan is SRS BSNS.

This show has absolutely hilarious and awesome background music, though.
 
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Crash Station

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Unknown Soldier said:
Ben-To 9:

A whole episode about Shiraume. It was boring. Even the fanservice was boring in this episode.

I did learn that high school diplomacy in Japan is SRS BSNS.

This show has absolutely hilarious and awesome background music, though.
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Shiraume is the worst exaggerated lesbian in anime. Even friggin Kuroko is better. We need more like Chizuru.
 
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Fate/Zero 13

AW HELL NAH :(

April can't get here soon enough. I should have held off on this episode, now the wait shall kill me even more.

Such an amazing series and Season 2 is obviously going to take it to even greater heights.
 
-Minsc-

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cajunator said:
What is going on in this picture?
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That my friend is Gintama episode 37, “People Who Say that Santa Doesn’t Really Exist Actually Want to Believe in Him / Prayer Won't Make Your Worldly Desires Go Away! Control Yourself”. It should be required Christmas viewing.
 
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Ezalc

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Yamada and Sato 13 (final)
Finally got to hear that one chick speak. This episode was great, really good gags from basically all of the characters. I thought this was going to be a longer season, I am saddened that I will no longer get a weekly dose of Yamada.
 
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Basileus777

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Fate/Zero 13

Ugh cliffhanger. I was hoping we'd get to see some action before the end, but I guess I'll have to wait until April. Uryuu and Caster were pretty entertaining this episode.
 
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Hellsing321

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A Very Idolmaster Christmas 22

That was good for getting in the Christmas spirit. I guess its not surprise that the best girl also won best idol of the year. I can see the :firehawk coming from a mile away from feeling in this episode.
 
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