maybe this season, we'll see! i liked him yesterday.
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2011/12 Dec/Jan NBA Season |OT| "Shannon Brown is not walking through that door."
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maybe this season, we'll see! i liked him yesterday.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
That kid is damn near 25.
All this DMC talk about his potential and skills is getting annoying. Let the guy have half a good season or at least 20 consecutive games where he's playing really well before we start harping on potential.
And lest anyone brings up Bynum...no one in LA (besides Jim Buss) thought Bynum was good beforeBynum was actually good. Dude was getting benched in favor of Kwame and no one in LA was complaining because we knew he was ass.
Once DMC can put together a solid 20-25 games I'll start to give him some credit, he hasn't come close to turning the corner yet!
And lest anyone brings up Bynum...no one in LA (besides Jim Buss) thought Bynum was good beforeBynum was actually good. Dude was getting benched in favor of Kwame and no one in LA was complaining because we knew he was ass.
Once DMC can put together a solid 20-25 games I'll start to give him some credit, he hasn't come close to turning the corner yet!
Im going to institute a no great smile rule for the wolves. Brewer, Flynn, Wes - all had great smiles - all sucked real bad
Clearly nice guys finish last, and suck while doing it
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Wolves are going to have to let go of Kahn then since that's his drafting criteria.
What? Rubio can get 6 points and 6 assists and your confident he was much better than those numbers and controlled the game. He's better than his stats.
DMC is 13 and 10 which is already below what he should be doing AND on top of all that, he is a net negative on the floor half the time. Makes boneheaded plays, is lax on defense. Rubio and DMC are the exact OPPOSITE player.
DMC is a lot more like Tyreke than he is Rubio.
Dominican Power
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Anyone??
lol.
Have you seen him play? Just curious.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Cousins' potential is overrated because he can't jump and because a lot of his moves that make him look super skilled don't really work at all and will probably never work. Still, he dominated college and has a good deal of lowpost and rebounding skill and strong court vision which probably could get him to the level of Memphis Z-bo if he works hard. And he has the best standing reach in the NBA other than JaVale McGee. Not saying he's good right now though.
Barrage
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Watched 3 of his games so far. People are confusing "entertaining" with "skill", in the same way that led people to proclaim Blake Griffin the 2nd best Power Forward in the league during month 1.
The kid's talented, but seeing someone claim he's a top 5 pg NOW makes me feel all kinds of fuckno.
LoL
The problem i have with assesing how good he can peak at, in terms of efficiency is, he's not used efficiently in SAC at all. Like, it's stupid how poor they are at using him. They're worse than orlando. At least orlando have an offense that designed to use the low post, the kings just seem to see it "as that place i drive past".
Future PhaZe
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Would Cousins be better at PF?
He's no J-Will. He runs P&R like few others. That's skill, not just entertaining. His no look passes always have a point...
When's the last time we saw someone come off the bench and average over 7 assists per game in his first few games? He's just 21.
I believe thats his natural position.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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But outside of one year at Kentucky, Cousins is playing in Sacramento exactly like how he's played in his entire life. He thinks he's a shooting guard.
cuevas. PhD.
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It wouldn't matter to him, he's just a kid trying to have fun.
Ninja Scooter
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Cousins is huge it'd be a waste to not play him at C.
Future PhaZe
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I like Cousins at PF. I don't think he's mentally tough enough to be expected to do all the grown man work that is expected of a C and I think he'd see large gains in his finishing and efficiency at the position.
Grover Cleveland
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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The fuck?
Tons of current NBA stars had very different college careers. What an odd point.
Tony Parker also.
Blackace
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It's like trolling but better
I don't know if his potential is overrated or not. It seems everyone agrees that his potential is a 20/10 guy on decent but not great efficiency.
Everyone also agrees that with his athleticism he will have trouble finishing over bigger guys and that he will not be an elite shot blocker.
What we know from his career so far is that he is a dominant rebounder and that no one can keep him out of the paint, he is quick enough to get past bigger guys and strong enough to back down smaller guys easily. I think his efficiency can be made decent fairly easily, all he really needs to be decently efficient is start hitting his shots at the rim at the rate he hit them last year(62.4%) and stop shooting 16+ ft jumpers completely. This is without even improving his post moves or his finishing inside. All he has to do is return to last years levels near the rim and stop taking the shitty long 2s, and he's instantly a decently efficient big man.
This is enough to justify the number 5 pick in today's NBA. It may seem like saying he has the potential to be one of the top big men in the league is overrating his potential, but really it just says more about how absolutely terrible the big men are these days.
Except Gerald...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Outside of the one year of Kentucky did you see him play?
If I were to put money on any NBA-Gaffer to have watched some obscure player during high school or college, it would be IWMTB.
Barrage
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Why are you listing him coming off the bench and being a 21 year old rookie as if those things are positives?
Considering Nash didn't make it last year because of YNB (wtf coaches), he's unfortunately not a lock anymore.
Ricardo Rubio is garbage and will be out of the league in a few years.
Grover Cleveland
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My bad, meant Monta Ellis.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Lowry is great, but Manu is still a lot better.
Yes, he was super soft and hung out on the perimeter in high school. He wasn't even projected as a first-round pick coming out of high school by some draft sites either.
How weird would it be for a player getting ~25mpg to make an all-star team.
Top 5 is a stretch. You're right. But he's easily top 8 in terms of his ability to make guys around him better and run the offense from the PG position.
Guys like Wstbrook aren't better PG's - but they are better players at the PG position.
Dude can get to 10 assists a game as a rookie playing 35 minutes a game. He plays 28, with a bunch of bench players often, gets 7 apg, and doesnt break a sweat.
I literally haven't seen him sweat all year - it's remarkable
Holy shit.
Manu is averaging 19.8PPG, 4.3RPG, 3.3APG on 60FG% in 25.8MPG?
He's shooting 60/54/93??
*mindblown*
Nash isn't making the All Star team. And whilst lowry has been playing well, and the rockets actually look like a functional NBA team this year (i kid you not ,they look better than i thought they would), i sitll don't think he's going to get anywhere near the allstar team unless he goes on some insane run, or the rockets do. He'd have to have 15 20/10 games in a row, his name isn't really out there.
You've still got manu and TP, YNB, Kobe, Martin (who is a better chance than lowry, disgustingly), CP3, Ellis, Curry, tyreke, jason kid, jason terry, rubio.
JET may get in just because of the finals last year.
Yeah, ridiculous. I think he started last year similarly.
Ninja Scooter
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Does every behind the scenes Shaq story from his book deviate into "give me the ball or I'll punch you!"?
Hey man Shazam or whatever it was called was great
Red Blaster
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I don't know why Shaq thought getting good position mattered during his Celtic days, he looked worse than Tim Donecan last year.
Okay... you see how said "better than his stats" after only a couple of games and limited situations?
Yeah, that was the entire point. No paragraph necessary.
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