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[Dresden]

I've never watched that sakuga presentation, but I do watch MAD's and junk often because I like pretty lights and people beating the shit out of each other. Sometimes name recognition bleeds through and I recognize a name here and there.

 

[Dead]

But Penguindrum is at least watchable, Bakemono is like an exercise in how long you can take being bombarded by a litany of stupid.

Sounds just like Code Geass. No wonder it's so popular.

 

[Haly]

I've never watched that sakuga presentation, but I do watch MAD's and junk often because I like pretty lights and people beating the shit out of each other. Sometimes name recognition bleeds through and I recognize a name here and there.

You are already 7th.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

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Geneijin
He'll Never Forget The
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We Saw That Day
(Today, 10:15 PM)

Sounds just like Code Geass. No wonder it's so popular.

Code Geass is never boring though, something that Bakamono is quite constantly and frequently.

 

[Jex]

I can attest that watching that sakuga presentation changed my life. Or at least the way I look at anime. I've begun noticing and appreciating excellent moments of animation, watching the monthly sakuga videos, noticing the styles of individual episode directors and key animators, and caring a lot more about the staff behind the shows I watch. In general, I'd say my time in Anime-GAF has made me a more critical and discerning viewer, not just with anime but with film in general, so I'm glad I've spent the time here that I have.

I already noticed moments of great animation beforehand not I can, unfortunately, see where it's much more limited and stuff. Such are the trade-offs for being discerning!

 

[Nonoriri]

Hey now, it's not stupid all the time. Sometimes the characters have to shut up for fanservice to happen or a fight scene!

There needs to be guide that highlights these kinds of things, you know so that you get the most out of it.

 

[NewFresh]

Sakuga.

(Surgeon General's Warning: Watching this video series all the way through might turn you into 7th.)

fuck

 

[Jex]

You are already 7th.

Now, I think you have to have an animation > writing argument before that can happen.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

I was told to expect lolis and I got lolis.

Eh. I guess that's a reasonable outcome.

In spite of my better judgment, I do enjoy the show. I can't wait to see the one time where the animation isn't just panning & zooming across tits and ass, though!

That fight scene in episode 8 was pretty great in that regard, if short.

 

[Defuser]

There are two kinds of people in this world.

Team Taichi . . . and Team Wrong.

What happen to the third team Team Harada sensei.

 

[Geneijin]

Geneijin
He'll Never Forget The
Overused Tag Quote
We Saw That Day
(Today, 10:15 PM)

Revisionist history if you didn't notice it wasn't always like that on Thursdays!

Your answer should have been Infinite Stratos anyway.

 

[Jex]

There needs to be guide that highlights these kinds of things, you know so that you get the most out of it.

It's not always ugly. Sometimes they hire an animator for 30 seconds.

 

[Dresden]

What happen to the third team Team Harada sensei.

Belongs under 'Team Wrong' tyvm.

I do have a soft sport for Forehead girl.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

I already noticed moments of great animation beforehand not I can, unfortunately, see where it's much more limited and stuff. Such are the trade-offs for being discerning!

The best position to be in is one where you can discern the highest quality work from lower quality, but still be able to appreciate and enjoy lower quality work for what it provides.

 

[Nonoriri]

It's not always ugly. Sometimes they hire an animator for 30 seconds.

You mean sometimes Hironori Tanaka or Genichirou Abe pop-up to remind you that this is actually an animated work and not a radio drama?

Sounds just like Code Geass. No wonder it's so popular.

I guess there are people that enjoy Bakemono ironically, I mean at least Code Geass has the "it's so goddamn stupid I can't believe this is even a thing" down to an artform so there's that.

 

[mAcOdIn]

But Penguindrum is at least watchable, Bakemono is like an exercise in how long you can take being bombarded by a litany of stupid.

Haha, one can be your cup of tea more than the other but lets not pretend that MPD was any less "stupid" than Bakemonogatari.

 

[Jex]

Aww.. well, at least I have more Chihayafuru to watch.

Well, either you'll like Zeta Gundam, or you wont, but either way it's something you've already watched. I generally feel that it's better to see new stuff then just watching stuff that I'm already familiar with.

 

[Haly]

It's never ugly. Barring some off reference frames, Bakemono's characters (and really, there's nothing but characters) are consistent all the way through. I like the art style used for the character designs, and so I enjoyed watching it, even if it was just a lot of stills and closeups.

Although I admit a youtube video of all the actually animated scenes in Bake would barely touch the 30 second mark.

 

[Jex]

YOU

NODAME

NOW

You know, even though I loved Honey and Clover I never really explored Nodame. Does that make me a bad person?

 

[Regulus Tera]

Since when were we a spectator sport?

Trainwrecks are always fun to watch, especially the never-ending ones!

 

[Nonoriri]

Haha, one can be your cup of tea more than the other but lets not pretend that MPD was any less "stupid" than Bakemonogatari.

I'd chalk it up to there being different kinds of stupid myself, Bakemono is the really boring, ineffective, ugly, pseudo-meta kind. Penguindrum is the "I don't know or care what is happening but at least it's a thing sometimes and is also occasionally funny" kind.

 

[Hitokage]

It's never ugly. Barring some off reference frames, Bakemono's characters (and really, there's nothing but characters) are consistent all the way through. I like the art style used for the character designs, and so I enjoyed watching it, even if it was just a lot of stills and closeups.

Well, the latter leads to the former.

 

[Jex]

Oh yeah, god, the movie. I'm pretty sure Adolescence Apocalypse is less straightforward than MPD.

Everyone likes a good symbolism battle.

 

[Dead]

I'd chalk it up to there being different kinds of stupid myself, Bakemono is the really boring, ineffective, ugly, pseudo-meta kind. Penguindrum is the "I don't know or care what is happening but at least it's a thing sometimes and is also occasionally funny" kind.

So pretty much the usual Shaft

 

[mAcOdIn]

I'd chalk it up to there being different kinds of stupid myself, Bakemono is the really boring, ineffective, ugly, pseudo-meta kind. Penguindrum is the "I don't know or care what is happening but at least it's a thing sometimes and is also occasionally funny" kind.

That's fair enough.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Now, I think you have to have an animation > writing argument before that can happen.

If you want to have good writing you can go read a book. A good cartoon can rely on just having great animation to be entertaining.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Yeah, and then it's right back to naked girls clasping their breasts etc.

Bakemono knows what it is and doesn't make any apologies for it. I can respect that.

Well, the latter leads to the former.

Wait, are you saying stills are inherently ugly?

 

[Nonoriri]

I like it too, including the random wacky shit they thrown in.

But Nonoriri (aka pizzaroll aka 7Th) has to have his fun ya know.

It's never ugly. Barring some off reference frames, Bakemono's characters (and really, there's nothing but characters) are consistent all the way through. I like the art style used for the character designs, and so I enjoyed watching it, even if it was just a lot of stills and closeups.

Although I admit a youtube video of all the actually animated scenes in Bake would barely touch the 30 second mark.

An example:

Kemonozume: Not ugly, consistently "stylized"
Bakemono: Ugly, inconsistently "stylized"

 

[Geneijin]

Trainwrecks are always fun to watch, especially the never-ending ones!

It's summer all over again.

 

[Jex]

It's a cool movie. I also love the music in that scene where Shiori turns into a...moth. I think it's a moth.

I still don't really understand why there's so much freaking Shiori in it in the first place however.

Clearly someone really liked her character, for whatever reason. I'm not sure who would though.

 

[Geneijin]

Wait, are you saying stills are inherently ugly?

He was saying a lot of stills and closeups will lead to consistency and seldom off frames i.e. Uta-Pri.

 

[Nonoriri]

So pretty much the usual Shaft

Exactly, though it bothers me more because I genuinely enjoyed the first episode.

That's fair enough.

Well then.

 

[iavi]

Now, I think you have to have an animation > writing argument before that can happen.

Let's not put this into the universe.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

He was saying a lot of stills and closeups will lead to consistency and seldom off frames i.e. Uta-Pri.

Yeah, I realized that after I reread his post.

 

[Jex]

You guys shouldwatch Tsukikage Ran and

Spoiler

Riding Bean.

Neither is related to the other of course except that they make me a contented thing.

I can't speak for your first choice but your second is wholly correct. It's just a one off OVA but it has more kidnapped children, cars riding on walls, waking up by tazer and improbable action sequences with scary lesbians than one could want in a single story!

 

[Haly]

Kemonozume: Not ugly, consistently "stylized"
Bakemono: Ugly, inconsistently "stylized"

I never watched Kemonozume.

I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistently "stylized". Do you mean this?

(Spoilers for icarus, kind of, sorta, not really)

 

[Dresden]

I think the thing that always stopped me from becoming a fanwanker (or whatever) of animation and stuff, is that there's such a huge barrier for anyone not fluent in Japanese from investigating that rather niche subject. If I'm curious about, say, the publishing process or want to read an interview with Paul Auster or whatever, there's huge swath of information just waiting out there for me to take advantage of (and I imagine that this goes for stuff like film or music as well). It's not like that for animation - almost all the info for someone who can't speak nihongo is spotty, second-hand, haphazard translations of stuff that may or may not be there. It's exceedingly esoteric and very frustrating.

 

[Noirulus]

Well, either you'll like Zeta Gundam, or you wont, but either way it's something you've already watched. I generally feel that it's better to see new stuff then just watching stuff that I'm already familiar with.

I remember liking it, but that was at least 6 years ago. I wanted to get a rewatch as the new gundams don't really interest me too much.

But anyway, I did rewatch the first episode, and I gotta say that while the music is still top-notch, the dialogue is way shittier than I ever remember it being.

Oh well.

 

[Jex]

Bakemonogatari 9

Well that wasn't creepy at all!

Bakemonogatari 9

Araragi, always looking out for the ladies.

Wow, you both arrived at the snake-arc together. How unfortunate for both of you. I'd like to state that that, while some of the fanservice from that arc was present in the original TV airing they went above and beyond for the disc release in ways that are even more objectionable than usual!

 

[Cwarrior]

It's never ugly. Barring some off reference frames, Bakemono's characters (and really, there's nothing but characters) are consistent all the way through. I like the art style used for the character designs, and so I enjoyed watching it, even if it was just a lot of stills and closeups.

Although I admit a youtube video of all the actually animated scenes in Bake would barely touch the 30 second mark.

Did someone just praise a shaft show for its looks saying out of all things its consistent.....I think I need back to sleep must be reading this wrong..zzzzzzz.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Wow, you both arrived at the snake-arc together. How unfortunate for both of you. I'd like to state that that, while some of the fanservice from that arc was present in the original TV airing they went above and beyond for the disc release in ways that are even more objectionable than usual!

It was Yoiko-level disturbing seeing Nadeko writhe around like that, but somehow I powered past that. I feel like I left whatever remained of my innocence behind though.

I think somebody posted this before and it was awful enough the first time I watched it.

By "awful" you mean "awesome", right?

 

[Jex]

It's Phi Brain's equivalent of Bake's commentary tracks.

That reminds me, I think someone started work on them although it may have all been a joke.

God dammit, why must the world be so cruel.

Do you think others take a glance at animeGAF and flee in absolute terror?

Is that a trick question?

Yes.

Yes, do watch em. Better than Nadeko's arc at least. And you get to see a whole new Hanekawa. In a good way, of course.

That's really not saying much!

It was Yoiko-level disturbing seeing Nadeko writhe around like that, but somehow I powered past that. I feel like I left whatever remained of my innocence behind though.

To be fair in the original cut it wasn't anywhere near that bad, because there was no animation. They really went back and crossed whatever line they hadn't crossed when they animated that one.

 

[Nonoriri]

I never watched Kemonozume.

I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistently "stylized". Do you mean this?

(Spoilers for icarus, kind of, sorta, not really)

I should note that I mean Bakemono is inconsistent in the execution of its own established "model" so to speak, as if it is internally weaker and weaker the more I continued to watch it. This is probably pretty common in anime, but it feels all the more apparent in Shaft stuff. Rather than finding it "unique and interesting" I find most of it to be a chore, distracting and mostly annoying.

Some might find that to be more endearing than say a bland anime, but ultimately it ends up being the same thing.

 

[sleepykyo]

Chihayafuru - 13

Another quality episode - reassuring that at least one show will stay consistently good.

You can already hear the bells ringing for Taichi's romantic funeral. The "problem" with having decent characterization is that there aren't these one-dimensional shoujo love interest douchebags that you can root against . . . fucking Arata, why you gotta be so sympathetic?

About as close as Taichi will get to Ayase at this point. When she's unconscious.

Best love triangle in a while. The prince is actually the underdog and the female is gorgeous instead of being "ordinary".

 

[Steroyd]

You know, even though I loved Honey and Clover I never really explored Nodame. Does that make me a bad person?

Yes.

 

[Hellsing321]

Oh god. This is setting off all the wrong type of alarms.

The type where it seems like Taichi will win over Chihaya.

Spoiler

nooooo

Don't worry that'll never happen.

 

[Jex]

I never watched Kemonozume.

I'm not sure what you mean by inconsistently "stylized". Do you mean this?

(Spoilers for icarus, kind of, sorta, not really)

I like the idea that you can spoil a cat-girl in pyjamas going 'nya!', but I suppose, technically, you can. Just like anything else.

 

[Haly]

I should note that I mean Bakemono is inconsistent in the execution of its own established "model" so to speak, as if it is internally weaker and weaker the more I continued to watch it.

Still confused.

Could you like, give me a screenshot comparison of what you mean or at least a video with some specific times to watch out for?

I like the idea that you can spoil a cat-girl in pyjamas going 'nya!', but I suppose, technically, you can. Just like anything else.

Well I discovered Bakemonogatari through Jason's blog. While I still enjoyed Senjougahara's T&A, I feel like my foreknowledge robbed me of some shock value (which is pretty important to Bake, since it has little else going for it).

It's like people who recommend Madoka saying "WATCH UNTIL EP 3 THEN DECIDE IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT". To me this is as good as a spoiler because clearly, shit gets real in ep 3. As if HURR DURR HEAD wasn't obvious enough, that knowledge pretty much robs you of any chance of surprise.

Though I do realize now that icarus might not have the same reaction to a cat girl in pj's going "nya" as I would or others would.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Oh, I forgot. Bakemono's not just about the tit, ass, and panty shots; there are also weird inexplicable zooms on people's nostrils too.

And eyes. Don't forget the eyes.

 

[Noirulus]

Don't worry that'll never happen.

I'm afraid if I watch any more, that I'll be clawing at my skin for more.

So before I go any further, i'm going to keep it on wait til the series has finished airing.