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The last five apps you've use stay in memory so they'll resume quickly. All a dev needs to do to take advantage of that is to recompile for 7.5 so I have no idea what's going on with plants v zombies.

To make matters worse, PvZ has horrendous initial load times. If you move away from that game for ANY reason, you're in for a long wait. Its the reason I have the trial and chose not to buy it.
 
Settings / Speech / Use Speech when phone is locked allows you to access Tell me with the screen locked

unless you meant to power it on...

oh yea you are right, not unlock but you have to turn the screen on (at least on phones wihout a physical home button) and then hold it. so two presses but at least you do not have to look at it in car. Just push hold, put the phone down and speak to the car. :)
 
Microsoft pays for the port, but not for the support over a longer period and unless the devs themselves care (they don't), you'll have to wait for some intern to recompile and resubmit it.

Lets just get it out there. Coming from a company with successful in roads into the gaming space and a space for XBLA on the phone gaming absolutely blows on the device. It's like a 1/10th of 1% of what it could possibly be if MS as a whole really gave two funks. I'd say it's the worst aspect of the platform and my phone as a whole.
 
Does windows 8 OS for pc releasing have any relation to a potential windows 8 phone?

Yes and No. Will we get a Windows Phone 8? Yes, but don't expect it to look exactly like Win 8 on the desktop/laptop/tablet.

They are going to share some underlying tech though.


Big grain of salt here.

http://wmpoweruser.com/xbox-live-ga...microsoft-really-lost-faith-in-windows-phone/

If it did happen I suppose it would be similar to Open Feint or Plus+.

I hate the article headline, but maybe that's because I've been convinced for months now MS as a whole was never fully behind the OS to begin with.
 
Ms are smart for releasing their apps on iOS, its all about planting the seeds, think how many less people would have gotten ipods if apple had never released iTunes on Windows. Getting software people need onto peoples devices today will ultimately make them consider windows phone when its time to upgrade.

what MS really need to do imo is get Zune working on Mac and iOS (they also need to get a better song library but that's a different conversation)
 
Microsoft's business is all about building platforms and selling services. You don't limit your services like xbox and office etc.. to one platform. That just isn't smart business.
 
Microsoft's business is all about building platforms and selling services. You don't limit your services like xbox and office etc.. to one platform. That just isn't smart business.

I would say its the other way around. Microsoft's business is about selling platforms and building services to enhance those platforms. Not limiting killer services and products to only Microsoft platforms, decreases the overall value of those platforms.

IMO: Any functional release of Office on iOS before significant Windows 8 + Office 15 Metro penetration is self harm to windows.
 
I would say its the other way around. Microsoft's business is about selling platforms and building services to enhance those platforms. Not limiting killer services and products to only Microsoft platforms, decreases the overall value of those platforms.

IMO: Any functional release of Office on iOS before significant Windows 8 + Office 15 Metro penetration is self harm to windows.
Yeah that is probably more accurate.
What's Apple's business model?
Selling hardware mostly
 
I would say its the other way around. Microsoft's business is about selling platforms and building services to enhance those platforms. Not limiting killer services and products to only Microsoft platforms, decreases the overall value of those platforms.

IMO: Any functional release of Office on iOS before significant Windows 8 + Office 15 Metro penetration is self harm to windows.

Yeah, and while Microsoft is waiting to finish W8 and O15, Apple is selling their iWork suite for iOS.

Sounds good.

What's Apple's business model?

Selling consumer electronics that are tied to their huge ecosystem (App Store, iTunes music + video).
 
is there a setting i am missing becuase i have set them properly
they are at the correct date but the phone informs me a day earlier
maybe this is how default the OS works?
When you go into settings on an appointment you should see the "Reminder" field. For me it defaults to 15 minutes.
 
iWork pales in comparison to Office.

It lacks features, compatibility, speed, integration and corporate uptake (compared to the full office suite).
Guess what, most consumers don't care. They want some simple shit to type on or edit their documents on the go, while it pulls the stuff from iCloud and Pages is more than enough for them. Especially for that price.
 
is there a setting i am missing becuase i have set them properly
they are at the correct date but the phone informs me a day earlier
maybe this is how default the OS works?

Go to the Calendar, then click on your event. Click edit (pencil icon) and it should take you to edit appointment, there you can change information if you click on "more info" there is option for Reminder. You can turn reminder off, or set the time ( 5 min, 15 mins or day or week etc.)
 
Really? You don't remember the Xbox 360 S ads that got plastered all over the net before E3 or Halo 4 trailers. Microsoft is terrible at keeping secret.
Losing a phone prototype with a complete new design months before the announcement is major. Leaking the new Windows 8 start screen weeks before the announcement would've been major. Uploading a banner or an ad a day or few hours before the announcement is not.
 
You mean the day before? Hardly a major leak, just a store jumping the gun.

Actually it was Microsoft own site (Italy I think) that leak the banner ads and it was an hour before Kinect event.

Anyway, I was saying it in jest, you guys are too uptight what happen here! I think we need more copernicus posts.

edit: didn't we already show Windows 8 start screens?
 
Losing a phone prototype with a complete new design months before the announcement is major. Leaking the new Windows 8 start screen weeks before the announcement would've been major. Uploading a banner or an ad a day or few hours before the announcement is not.

Agreed. The Xbox 360 S leak was surprising because no one had heard a peep about a slimmer Xbox for a few years.
 
What's left to leak on the Ace? the price and the release date? I'd guess that might be because they haven't got exact details to leak.
 
Guess what, most consumers don't care. They want some simple shit to type on or edit their documents on the go, while it pulls the stuff from iCloud and Pages is more than enough for them. Especially for that price.

For their personal stuff maybe they wont care but if their work or school requires that they use Word documents or Powerpoint slides then they'll definitely care when iWork doesnt display it properly or fucks up the formating. DocstoGo and QuickOffice sell really well on iOS despite the presence of iWork. An official Microsoft Office would sell gangbusters--that's the benefit of owning the document format.
 
For their personal stuff maybe they wont care but if their work or school requires that they use Word documents or Powerpoint slides then they'll definitely care when iWork doesnt display it properly or fucks up the formating. DocstoGo and QuickOffice sell really well on iOS despite the presence of iWork. An official Microsoft Office would sell gangbusters--that's the benefit of owning the document format.

Isn't there already a an official office app on ios? I am pretty sure I saw one last time I checked the app store =\
 
For their personal stuff maybe they wont care but if their work or school requires that they use Word documents or Powerpoint slides then they'll definitely care when iWork doesnt display it properly or fucks up the formating. DocstoGo and QuickOffice sell really well on iOS despite the presence of iWork. An official Microsoft Office would sell gangbusters--that's the benefit of owning the document format.

I never said it wouldn't sell, but the majority of customers will hardly get a Windows 8 tablet over an iPad, just because it has Office.
 
Guess what, most consumers don't care. They want some simple shit to type on or edit their documents on the go, while it pulls the stuff from iCloud and Pages is more than enough for them. Especially for that price.

For their personal stuff maybe they wont care but if their work or school requires that they use Word documents or Powerpoint slides then they'll definitely care when iWork doesnt display it properly or fucks up the formating. DocstoGo and QuickOffice sell really well on iOS despite the presence of iWork. An official Microsoft Office would sell gangbusters--that's the benefit of owning the document format.

Pretty much exactly what Greyface wrote.

Most consumers do care when moving between devices that the format of the document is preserved. There no point in starting a document on a laptop/desktop then moving to a tablet and its all f***ed up. Apple can't even do that between iOS and Mac versions of iWork and iWork files, what chance in hell can they do that with Office files.

What i expect is that Office 15 will have a metro and desktop counterparts. With the metro version being somewhere inbetween desktop and mobile in terms on functionality, but the document fidelity will be flawless.
 
I never said it wouldn't sell, but the majority of customers will hardly get a Windows 8 tablet over an iPad, just because it has Office.

If Windows 8 is everything the iPad is (which it is looking to be), but it also has a full office suite, why would any consumer choose an iPad?
 
If Windows 8 is everything the iPad is (which it is looking to be), but it also has a full office suite, why would any consumer choose an iPad?

Freinds. family. The need to be hipster. Take your pick.

I've said it before and ill say it again. You guys give the genral consumer (fuck I can't spell) to much credit.
 
If Windows 8 is everything the iPad is (which it is looking to be), but it also has a full office suite, why would any consumer choose an iPad?

Same reason people pick iPhones or Android phones over a Windows Phone.

Apps.

I'll get an iPad 3 when it comes out and I'll keep my OG iPad as my HTPC remote, because I know I won't even consider a Windows tablet for the next two years. The beta would really have to blow me away and that won't happen.
 
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