Uh, it was a ten yard curl run with solid timing, so the receiver turned and the ball was there. The only reason it kind of looked like a back shoulder pass is that it wasn't terribly accurate. Timing was great though, which is a huge step.
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Uh, it was a ten yard curl run with solid timing, so the receiver turned and the ball was there. The only reason it kind of looked like a back shoulder pass is that it wasn't terribly accurate. Timing was great though, which is a huge step.
cuevas. PhD.
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It's funny cuz they said it was the first time they saw him throw a true back shoulder throw, and it wasn't.
And you're right, tebow has the timing down on pretty much everything (lol 1 read) but he just can't make the throws.
And on the second day, our Lord and Savior Tebow said on to the masses... "LET THEM HAVE SALT".
Don't have the chance to rewatch the game, but I recall the one on one TD to Royal being the only throw I was impressed with. The rest seemed like bootlegs to the left with dumps off to single coverage or holes in the zone. He managed the game well.
If you wanna talk about a gorgeous pass, then Manning to Manningham in double coverage was a thing of beauty. <3
Don't have the chance to rewatch the game, but I recall the one on one TD to Royal being the only throw I was impressed with. The rest seemed like bootlegs to the left with dumps off to single coverage or holes in the zone. He managed the game well.
If you wanna talk about a gorgeous pass, then Manning to Manningham in double coverage was a thing of beauty. <3
I linked the highlights and ran down 8 of the ten completions. Only the two go routes in the second quarter were against tight coverage, and on the first one the coverage was only tight because of the underthrow.
And like I said, the Decker throw was his best ball of the day, but it wasn't a completion. I didn't run down his incompletions because I don't yet have access to the entire film.
Bumblebeetuna
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Wow so the passes were so good in that man coverage that DT was able to run after the catch a lot. Well done, Tebow.
jordan0386
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Producers needed somebody to lean left hard or the ratings would dip. AND no Stephen A. until 11am.
Yeah shit was funny
And can't wait til they talk about the fat goose egg that the ATL offense gave.
Yeah I said damn.
The whole thing was kind of fun until he started in, and then it was kind of like "whoa..."
Dude is mad for real. Relentlessly barking at Skip.
Bumblebeetuna
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A lot of ESPN guys seem downright angry when Tebow has a good game. It's bizarre.
As if the stat needs more reasons to be rendered irrelevant.
PS. Tebow's two passes to Thomas in the 2nd quarter were brilliant, brilliant throws, this cannot be denied. People just need to get over this whole thing now, he's an NFL quarterback who, like so many others, is wildly inconsistent. Nothing more, nothing less.
End of story.
I don't believe the bolded is true. Can anyone give me a good site for NFL stats? I want to know how many passes the Broncos threw that were 20+(I can't find how many Tebow threw specifically), what was the completion percentage, and how that compares to the rest of the NFL.
themadcowtipper
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If we are playing the what if game, maybe if the whistle didn't blow, Robert Meachem(one of the fastest dudes on theam) would have made the takle peventing the td.
photo evidence
Robert #17 at the bottom left of the screen.
Sme goes for Brees. Everybods calls him a stat whore but he atrributed his success to Everybody on the team that made it possible. He never claims everything for himself. Thats why his teammates love him. If he was really just a stat junkie he wouldnt be nearly so respected by teammates.
I mean fuck, who spreads the ball around to more players than he does? He gives td passes to backup 4th string te's if they are open. Yeah he puts up big numbers but he never leaves his teammates out of the equation.
Tebow similarly thanks his whole team for his success. That is not being a diva it is being a good leader.a
How is the ball washing ceremony coming along on ESPN?Gonna be an amazing game, hopefully. I'm hoping it'll be the most interesting game of the week.
He's thrown under 50% the entire season dude. He's not very accurate. Considering when the league average is around 60% is even more of a problem.
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2nd Quarter
14:56 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Demaryius Thomas for 51 yards to the Pit31. Tackled by Ike Taylor.
Good throw, not tight coverage though.
13:31 Tim Tebow pass to the right to Eddie Royal for 30 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.
Great throw, pretty good coverage.
12:15 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Demaryius Thomas for 58 yards to the Pit12. Tackled by Ike Taylor.
Good throw. Ike getting beaten again.
8:26 Tim Tebow pass to the right to Eddie Royal for 6 yards to the Pit2. Tackled by William Gay.
Don't remember this pass very well, most likely it was an out.
4:31 Tim Tebow pass to the middle to Daniel Fells for 40 yards to the Pit25. Tackled by William Gay.
Wide open, good throw.
3rd Quarter
13:24 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Eddie Royal for 13 yards to the Pit45. Tackled by William Gay.
0:15 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Lance Ball for 6 yards to the Pit13. Tackled by Ryan Mundy.
Forgettable passes.
4th Quarter
8:25 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Demaryius Thomas for 15 yards to the Den48. Tackled by Ike Taylor.
3:07 Tim Tebow pass to the left to Daniel Fells for 17 yards to the Den33. Tackled by Ike Taylor.
Overtime
15:00 Tim Tebow pass to the middle to Demaryius Thomas for 80 yards for a TOUCHDOWN.
He certainly did have several great throws. But the only truly impressive passes were the first pass to Thomas and the touchdown to Eddie Royal if you consider the coverage. The other throws were great but the Steelers were awful (Ike Taylor yuck) in coverage all game.
AndresON777
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lets be real here. At least the fucking stealers lost
You guys are crazy generous calling that first go-route to Thomas a "great throw." When Tebow first decides to throw the ball, Thomas is pulling away from the corner. By the time the ball gets there he is fighting for the ball. It was not a good throw. It was into coverage though.
I love Tebow. He just isn't accurate and wasn't forced to make tough throws yesterday. Not necessarily a bad thing. I'd rather my QB is able to throw to nothing but wide open guys, personally.
I love Tebow. He just isn't accurate and wasn't forced to make tough throws yesterday. Not necessarily a bad thing. I'd rather my QB is able to throw to nothing but wide open guys, personally.
jordan0386
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I'm assuming Giants and Packers fans are discussing this right?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...l-guarantees-victory-for-giants-in-green-bay/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...l-guarantees-victory-for-giants-in-green-bay/
Barack Lesnar
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Actually, Skip cited a stat that nobody in the league has thrown more 15+ yard passes than Tebow.
goldlion054
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If we are playing the what if game, maybe if the whistle didn't blow, Robert Meachem(one of the fastest dudes on theam) would have made the takle peventing the td.
photo evidence
Robert #17 at the bottom left of the screen.
Try again, because I don't see the image. And Robert Meacham was competing against at least 3 Lions. Sure, they can't tackle, but big pieces of shit can still probably get in the way.
And I said it wouldn't have mattered anyway, and also said the Saints got screwed on the call too. But i know, i know. Katrina made reading comprehension difficult for you
He'd be a real piece of shit if he said anything else in my opinion.
I think you're confusing that throw man, there was no fighting for that one. He dropped it in the basket at nearly full stride.
I'm no Tebow lover or apologist, but that was a great throw, no question.
Skip and stats don't mix. I doubt this is true considering he doesn't have anywhere close to the amount of attempts of someone like Brees or Brady.
Brady had 340 more attempts than Tebow during the regular season. It'd be quite amazing if he threw more 15+ yard passes than Brady.
Left sideline deep ball? I just watched the highlights. It was his second completion to him.
Barack Lesnar
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Skip picking San Fran over NO because SF's defense will stop Brees. I fucking love Skip. He's the only analyst with balls.
See You Next Wednesday
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The sweet sweet bitter tears are delicious!
Spectral Glider
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I think the reality is that Tebow (and the Broncos) managed to make the most of the completions they did get. The other side of the coin is that Lebeau and the Steeler secondary looked like dog shit. But you have to credit the Broncos for going for it all in OT, they caught the Steelers napping and executed to perfection. That won the game. As for Tebow's accuracy, it does need to improve, anybody that watches him on every throw can see that.
themadcowtipper
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Just as bad as have Konex root for your team.
No he needs to keep trolling everyone so he can continue getting paid.
Why would you care what he thinks about anything? The guy doesn't have any well-thought out arguments it's purely hey this is my gut. He got reamed by Mark Schlereth on national TV. The guy isn't worth the wasted 1s and 0s watching him.
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Barack Lesnar
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The Niners have a dominant defense. Don't sell them short. We've seen this story many times in the past; where a high-flying offense that looks unbeatable gets grounded by a dominant defense.
Bush is a bust. He's been a glorified 3rd down back in his career so far. If he was any good the Saints would have held on to him. I wonder what you guys will say when his yac goes back to three point something? Because the season he had is an anomaly if you look at his career.
TheLegendary
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they brought that same look/formation throughout the second half. I felt like almost every possession they started with that shotgun formation and ran a qb option run. It was brilliant to set that up that long.
Thats true. Hes a fucking moron.
However im not overlooking the 9ers by any means. They honestly scare the shit out of me because of how they play. They control top and keep offenses off the field. You cant take teams like that likely. Where i have issue is the whole idea that our team cant play outdoors.
We have a road grading oline. We have great protection for the qb AND A HARD HITTING RUNGAME.
This is a dome team, but it is not just a finesse team. They can run the ball right down a teams throat. I would think a #6 rushing offense has a pretty good chance against #1 rushing defense.
Its not like in 08 and 2010 where we couldnt run and the offense was one dimensional. The niners will have to hold back every kind of offensive play, and im not so sure they can do that. They cant just shut down the run and sit back in coverage. That will leave sproles open. No matter what they do, it will leave somebody open. I think sf will make some big plays and make us sweat, but calling this a win just because we are playing on grass is pretty absurd. Its going to be close either way.
However im not overlooking the 9ers by any means. They honestly scare the shit out of me because of how they play. They control top and keep offenses off the field. You cant take teams like that likely. Where i have issue is the whole idea that our team cant play outdoors.
We have a road grading oline. We have great protection for the qb AND A HARD HITTING RUNGAME.
This is a dome team, but it is not just a finesse team. They can run the ball right down a teams throat. I would think a #6 rushing offense has a pretty good chance against #1 rushing defense.
Its not like in 08 and 2010 where we couldnt run and the offense was one dimensional. The niners will have to hold back every kind of offensive play, and im not so sure they can do that. They cant just shut down the run and sit back in coverage. That will leave sproles open. No matter what they do, it will leave somebody open. I think sf will make some big plays and make us sweat, but calling this a win just because we are playing on grass is pretty absurd. Its going to be close either way.
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Saints are different. Best offense ever, drew brees is the greatest human in the history of the universe, sean payton isnt a drug addicted scumbag, jimmy graham played bball and had a tough upbringing, phillip rivers lost his virginity to darren sproles, katrina, unique culture!
Yeah that's the one, I think it was about 50 odd yards or so? Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it was a perfect ball, but for a deep pass, it was great.
Spectral Glider
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I read somewhere else that they ran 21 times on 22 first downs prior to that. Don't know if that's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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