Paul's not a great debater either in my mind. He kind of rambles and stumbles on words too much. When he comes up with something good it is usually really good, though. But otherwise he trips up a lot. He doesn't make many actual soundbite-like gaffes like Mitt or Newt or some of the others might say, though, so that does elevate him a bit.
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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing
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Paul's not a great debater either in my mind. He kind of rambles and stumbles on words too much. When he comes up with something good it is usually really good, though. But otherwise he trips up a lot. He doesn't make many actual soundbite-like gaffes like Mitt or Newt or some of the others might say, though, so that does elevate him a bit.
A27_StarWolf
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I'm just shocked Paul got as far ahead as he has :/
Thats exactly whats happening http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/nh?hpt=hp_pc1
At the time of that post, Romney - the leader - had less than 1,000 votes.
A bit more in now. Paul down a bit, Huntsman up .7%. Mitt laughing all the way to the nomination.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
PhoenixDark
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If Huntsman comes in a distant third I really see no point in him staying in the race
should have waited for 2016 dude
should have waited for 2016 dude
A27_StarWolf
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At the time of that post, Romney - the leader - had less than 1,000 votes.
A bit more in now. Paul down a bit, Huntsman up .7%. Mitt laughing all the way to the nomination.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
So can Huntsman take that bit away from Paul?
A27_StarWolf
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Could Run again!?
He still could.
I almost think he's trying the same thing as what happened to Romney. He'll lose this time, but next time around he'll have more footing and a lot more name recognition.
Most definitely. I wouldn't be surprised to see Huntsman surge and overtake Romney by 10pm or so once more districts report in. The latest polls are showing a massive swing to Huntsman that hasn't yet been picked up by the news agencies.
Same thing with McCain in 2000 versus 2008.
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Its not even that. Bush said stupid stuff but it was almost always some kind of gaffe whereas Romney just says shit that so out of touch for most Americans. Theres a very big difference.
PhoenixDark
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I guess, but this has been quite a bad run. From the weak announcement speech to focusing entirely on NH. He has to go to Iowa eventually if he plans on being president, should have started this year.
I like Christie's argument against him: this is a guy who was given a job and is now running against the guy. It feels disloyal to many people,
He got some name recognition and experience out of it, and might fare better next time around.
I don't think he'd have a chance, but as has been said a lot of folks do better the second time around.
Yeah, polls closed, and it's an insta-call based on the exit polling. Everyone will have called it in the next couple of minutes.
don't listen to this, A27_StarWolf. believe.
LegendofJoe
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I'm extrapolating this from Paul's performance thus far, but the Libertarian segment of GOP voters seems to be growing pretty rapidly. If it continues I will have hope that the Republican party might be worthwhile again someday.
Right, I know. On to SC and Florida!
Is it libertarian or an uptick of single-issue voters who are fervently anti-war?
LegendofJoe
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PhoenixDark said:
That's ridiculous. If you think you can do a better job than your boss then go for it and try to take it from him. It shows courage to me.
The Librarian
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I'm on the edge of my seat to find out who comes in second.
A27_StarWolf
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Well it looks like Huntsman is creeping up, he is catching Paul.
LegendofJoe
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Personally, I think it's the former. My opinion is not informed, but most Republicans I know have strong Libertarian leanings. It's anecdotal I know, but I definitely see the GOP moving away from social conservatism eventually. It's just a question of how long it will take.
PhoenixDark
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As do I, just so I can troll the Ron Paul thread before bed
Yeah, they need to be knocked down a few pegs.
The Chosen One
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NBC News called Paul for second place.
Ron Paul has basically handed Mittens the nomination.
Ron Paul has basically handed Mittens the nomination.
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A27_StarWolf
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no.............
Huntsman is done tonight regardless. He isn't even going to be within shooting distance of Romney, and he bet the farm on NH. He doesn't have the resources or the continued will to compete anywhere else.
From what I've heard the Paullites say, they think once everyone else drops out everyone will vote for Paul over Romney.
LegendofJoe
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Damn, I wish Paul would run as a Libertarian. The moderates in this country have been denied a voice for too long, it's time for one of the two big parties to either break apart or be weakened enough to allow another party to take its place.
Just got around to reading this, and man it's sad... No one should have to take half of medication they really need in order to make it stretch...
If Paul has enough funding to last past Super Tuesday, he could pick off enough delegates to make the GOP convention must-see TV.
This is the Republican party. You have to run once and fail, before they even give you a legitimate shot.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
FWIW - this is why I manage my expectations at all times to be realistic, rather than purely hopeful. It hurts less on the way down.
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