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"Smoking marijuana occasionally doesn't seem to damage the lungs as cigarette smoke does, a new 20-year study suggests.

The study was published in Wednesday's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. It is hard to estimate the potential effects on the lungs from regular and heavy use of marijuana, researchers say.

"With marijuana use increasing and large numbers of people who have been and continue to be exposed, knowing whether it causes lasting damage to lung function is important for public-health messaging and medical use of marijuana," said the study's senior author, Dr. Stefan Kertesz of the University of Alabama at Birmingham."


more at the link..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/01/10/marijuana-smoke-lungs.html

 

[Count Dookkake]

Nice.

 

[Cooter]

Of course it doesn't.

 

[soundahfekz]

"as cigarette smoke does.

Still probably does some harm to your lungs though

 

[Kinitari]

May not harm them, but it hurts them. Or at least it hurts mine . I'll stick to occasionally eating a cookie.

 

[Hawkian]

This is obvious in simple terms of amount of tar ingested per session. Nice to see some longitudinal data.

Still probably does some harm to your lungs though

Absolutely true, smoking anything, any amount, does indeed do harm to your lungs. They are only meant to intake air.

 

[Buckethead]

Unscientific rationalization for a habitual vice.

 

[wormstrangler]

I smoke on average one bowl a night, just because it's nice, easy and quick so this is OK news but I'd prefer to drink it (green dragon) or vaporize. I need to get on to that.

 

[D23]

nice

 

[Mr.Swag]

Still it will stay illegal

 

[Kaako]

Emphasis on occasionally. Almost anything can be harmful to your body if you abuse it. Hopefully, there will be more studies like this for people to read and decide for themselves.

 

[The Technomancer]

It would be nice to see any of the numbers in that study

 

[Satyamdas]

That's great news if true, but I'm still going to keep using my Volcano primarily because I don't like the harshness blunts and joints cause to my throat. Of course at other people's places I will gladly smoke on whatever they use

 

[Pop On Arrival]

Shit, if only getting a volcano was easy over here. I use a bong almost everyday and this shit can't be good, haha.

 

[GQman2121]

It harms your lungs. But of course it doesn't harm them the same way as chemical riddled cigarettes. It took them 20 years to come to that conclusion?!

 

[akira28]

Still didn't stop the newscast of this story I heard from playing "wacky music" and sounds of people coughing and hacking in the background.

 

[xbhaskarx]

How can regularly inhaling smoke of any kind not harm your lungs to at least some extent?
I guess that's also a question for other products like incense...

 

[foodtaster]

What a useless study.

 

[gatti-man]

Topic name is 100% misleading.

 

[Tom Penny]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

 

[The Technomancer]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

Really dude?

 

[totowhoa]

It harms your lungs. But of course it doesn't harm them the same way as chemical riddled cigarettes. It took them 20 years to come to that conclusion?!

Intuition still requires proof, because it's not always correct. When evidence goes against intuition, that's when valuable things are learned. No reason to knock studies that "prove the obvious".

Haven't read the article yet, but I'm about to. Hopefully it has a bit of depth.

 

[ZealousD]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

Gateway drug huh?

Is that what your sixth grade teacher told you?

 

[wenis]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

Hey, I remember D.A.R.E. too!

 

[Hawkian]

Unscientific rationalization for a habitual vice.

This is a ludicrous sentence fragment.

The study was, in fact, scientific. The study didn't set out to rationalize anything. And as a habit or vice, compared to cigarette smoke (which is the major comparison drawn) it is a markedly less harmful one.

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

Oh hey there... up for a little debate?

 

[The Technomancer]

Intuition still requires proof, because it's not always correct. When evidence goes against intuition, that's when valuable things are learned. No reason to knock studies that "prove the obvious".

Haven't read the article yet, but I'm about to. Hopefully it has a bit of depth.

It doesn't. I'd like to see the study, the article is completely useless.

 

[Chichikov]

Still probably does some harm to your lungs though

"Marijuana exposure was associated with increases in those measurements, but not enough to consider smoking marijuana as a way to improve lung health, Kertesz cautioned".

Probably not.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

 

[totowhoa]

It doesn't. I'd like to see the study, the article is completely useless.

Yeah, you're right. It's published in a journal though. My university might have access to it; I'll check real quick. I'm not sure if I can get to it being outside of the medical college though.

 

[Hawkian]

It doesn't. I'd like to see the study, the article is completely useless.

True

Here's the abstract which includes the results: http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/307/2/173.abstract

The Full text isn't free unless you have one of those doohickeys like from a university or teaching hospital.

 

[The Technomancer]

True

Here's the abstract which includes the results: http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/307/2/173.abstract

The Full text isn't free unless you have one of those doohickeys like from a university or teaching hospital.

Damn, if only it was published by the IEEE

 

[wenis]

"Marijuana exposure was associated with increases in those measurements, but not enough to consider smoking marijuana as a way to improve lung health, Kertesz cautioned".

Probably not.

probably not, but it ain't gunna hurt me (too much) to see

 

[Grimm Fandango]

Compared to cigarette smoke, almost anything is not as dangerous.

 

[demon]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

Do you get all your facts from old government propaganda television commercials?

 

[Hawkian]

Damn, if only it was published by the IEEE

I feel that way about most publications

 

[The Technomancer]

First thing I notice about the abstract is the difference in usage rates. For a few years now I've been extremely curious to see what would happen to cigarette smoking if all of the nicotine was removed.

 

[Complex Shadow]

Clever way to convince your self harmful gateway drugs aren't that bad for you. Whatever floats your boat I guess,

here's a tissue. go cry me a river.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Still not gonna smoke it.

 

[Hawkian]

First thing I notice about the abstract is the difference in usage rates. For a few years now I've been extremely curious to see what would happen to cigarette smoking if all of the nicotine was removed.

Well it'd no longer be physically addictive, so...

 

[FairyD]

My daily habit is redeemed.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

First thing I notice about the abstract is the difference in usage rates. For a few years now I've been extremely curious to see what would happen to cigarette smoking if all of the nicotine was removed.

Nicotine isn't that harmful to our bodies. It's very addictive sure but it has little stimulatory health effects beyond that.

 

[Fusion Pizza]

*One hits bowl*

 

[Judderman]

Still not gonna smoke it.

As someone that used to have this mentality and finally tried it, you're missing out.

 

[Buckethead]

The study was, in fact, scientific.

It's not conclusive whatsoever yet essentially being reported in a contrary manor.

The study is inherently flawed; the sample size is far too large and lacking specificity and contains no relevant data to support the hypothesis.

It's like me pulling a statement out of my ass and telling everyone it's truth. This "study" is nothing more than glorified opinion with very little to support it.

And as a habit or vice, compared to cigarette smoke (which is the major comparison drawn) it is a markedly less harmful one.

You're essentially proving my point about rationalization. It's irrelevant if it's less harmful - it's harmful. Physically and socially.
If you derive pleasure from it, have at it, but the pot culture is rife with rationalization so let's not tiptoe around it.

 

[Puddles]

It would be nice to see any of the numbers in that study

 

[Tunavi]

I don't smoke, but I do think that marijuana should be legal and cigarettes should be illegal.

 

[aznpxdd]

FTW

 

[Alrus]

Of course it's still harmful for your lungs, this title is misleading. It being less harmful than regular consumption of tobacco is (or at least I thought it was) a well known fact.

Nicotine isn't that harmful to our bodies. It's very addictive sure but it has little stimulatory health effects beyond that.

It's probably not that great for your neurons, just like alcohol and most other drugs.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

I was wondering Technomancer, What's going on in this pic?

 

[GoldenEye 007]

As someone that used to have this mentality and finally tried it, you're missing out.

Tried it a few times. Not a fan at all. But no reason it should be illegal.