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Thanks for the advice, everyone. I've never been in a relationship before so this is all new territory for me (which is frightening since I'm 22).

I had one more thought which might come off as potentially more awkward:

What if I asked her if we could be cuddle/snuggle buddies? Is that odd?
DON'T ASK!

Never ask.

Just go with the flow.
 
Yeah, if things are already awkward that will probably make the situation worse. I'm not LadyGAF though.

You have to just subtlety put yourself out there for her. Maybe instead of asking that, simply ask if she likes to snuggle whenever you have a weak excuse to. If she acts weird, she's probably not interested. If she answers enthusiastically, you might have something.
 
I agree with the "never ask, make a move" crowd. That advice works for most things dating-related.

For example, I was testing the waters by kissing my ex on the cheek when we were first dating. She ended up bombarding me with kisses.
 
The guy who taught me the most about interacting with women (and people in general, I suppose) is probably the shortest friend I have ever had. Anywhere we would go, he'd have the prettiest/hottest girls clamoring for his attention. It was a real eye-opener. To this day, I use things I learned from him.

Do go on...
 
If a girl lays on your chest listening to your heartbeat after a session of passionately making out, does that mean she's really into you?
 
What do you mean new? Weve been dating for less than a month but we have been into each other fior 3 years. I'm just trying to gauge how much she likes me.
Ah, the "been into each other" thing mixes it up a bit. It's just that some girls can be way too into you early on. Some girls are just that way in relationships. This usually means there's going to be some very, very bad clinginess involved. Even without variables like knowing each other previously, every situation is different though- that's why I said "Watch out." and not "Run away!"
 
Thanks for the advice, everyone. I've never been in a relationship before so this is all new territory for me (which is frightening since I'm 22).

I had one more thought which might come off as potentially more awkward:

What if I asked her if we could be cuddle/snuggle buddies?
Is that odd?

I think you posted in the wrong thread. This is "LadyGAF Advises ManGAF," not the other way around.

But seriously, as far as your whole situation goes, don't content yourself with just being a sad puppy following her around waiting for a day that may never come. If she rejects you, you're going to need to nut up and walk away. From the sound of it, you're not going to be able to handle being "just friends" -- even if you think you can.
 
Ah, the "been into each other" thing mixes it up a bit. It's just that some girls can be way too into you early on. Some girls are just that way in relationships. This usually means there's going to be some very, very bad clinginess involved. Even without variables, every situation is different though- that's why I said "Watch out." and not "Run away!"

I don't mind really. Ive never felt this way about a woman before, I don't want to say I'm in love, but I have a lot of feelings for her. Are you saying that girls who lay on men's chest are clingy?

Cliff notes:

I broke her heart three years ago, stopped talking to her indefinitely and then started talking to her again a couple months ago.

Thing is that while we were making out, I asked her web she would be mine and she said she doesn't know. We continued to kiss for about 40 minutes and that's when she just laid on my chest while I played with her hair.
 
Are you saying that girls who lay on men's chest are clingy?
Absolutely not saying that at all. The way you worded it, like she was listening to your heartbeat and madly in love with you after making out with her once is just a potential warning that she's going to be really clingy. With some more context, it doesn't really seem that way.

Also, you think you don't mind until it happens. Unless of course she's the one, I guess then there'd be no problem. To answer your original question, yeah that means she's into you.
 
Absolutely not saying that at all. The way you worded it, like she was listening to your heartbeat and madly in love with you after making out with her once is just a potential warning that she's going to be really clingy. With some more context, it doesn't really seem that way.

Also, you think you don't mind until it happens. Unless of course she's the one, I guess then there'd be no problem. To answer your original question, yeah that means she's into you.

Thanks for the advice. But it was very romantic, she was listening to my heart beat and saying it was beating fast, etc. a really nice feeling actually. Oh and it was our second time making out.
 
Thanks for the advice. But it was very romantic, she was listening to my heart beat and saying it was beating fast, etc. a really nice feeling actually. Oh and it was our second time making out.

Always enjoyed when my previous girlfriend did this. Great way to wind down afterwards and feel closer to each other.
 
Thing is that while we were making out, I asked her web she would be mine and she said she doesn't know. We continued to kiss for about 40 minutes and that's when she just laid on my chest while I played with her hair.

I don't want to burst any bubbles, but this reads a whole lot differently than "really romantic". It reads "I'm confused and need comfort".

Surely this isn't the whole story...I mean, making out with you does suggest she's into you, but the "would you be mine" garnering a response of "I don't know" suggests an alternate interpretation to the chest-laying. Dare I ask if there's still residual hurt from the past lingering in your present relationship?
 
I don't want to burst any bubbles, but this reads a whole lot differently than "really romantic". It reads "I'm confused and need comfort".

Surely this isn't the whole story...I mean, making out with you does suggest she's into you, but the "would you be mine" garnering a response of "I don't know" suggests an alternate interpretation to the chest-laying. Dare I ask if there's still residual hurt from the past lingering in your present relationship?

I kind of agree. Be careful man.
 
Thanks for the advice, everyone. I've never been in a relationship before so this is all new territory for me (which is frightening since I'm 22).

I had one more thought which might come off as potentially more awkward:

What if I asked her if we could be cuddle/snuggle buddies? Is that odd?

I have formal documentation for just such a request. I can send you a notarized copy if you'd like to forward it to your prospective applicant. Allow her 30-35 minutes for the questionnaire, of 45-50 if pajamas are involved.
 
I have formal documentation for just such a request. I can send you a notarized copy if you'd like to forward it to your prospective applicant. Allow her 30-35 minutes for the questionnaire, of 45-50 if pajamas are involved.

Please file before 5:30 PM or specifications for that night's "snuggle-sessions" will have already been set, disallowing further modification for "being in the mood."
 
Serious question for the ladies here.

If you started dating a guy who was well past the age where one normally starts dating and being sexually active- let's say mid 20s through early 30s- and it turns out that he's never done either, that his life has been rather...socially deficient, and he's still trying to get his life together in that regard, how would you react? I'm sure some girls would say something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind as long as I like him", but realistically I wouldn't necessarily blame a girl who's beyond her college years for not wanting to be with a guy who has zero dating experience and probably has reasons for it. How tolerant are girls of that kind of thing as long as they're attracted to the guy and enjoy his company?
 
Serious question for the ladies here.

If you started dating a guy who was well past the age where one normally starts dating and being sexually active- let's say mid 20s through early 30s- and it turns out that he's never done either, that his life has been rather...socially deficient, and he's still trying to get his life together in that regard, how would you react? I'm sure some girls would say something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind as long as I like him", but realistically I wouldn't necessarily blame a girl who's beyond her college years for not wanting to be with a guy who has zero dating experience and probably has reasons for it. How tolerate are girls of that kind of thing as long as they're attracted to the guy and enjoy his company?
Bumping demon's question because this will probably me in a decade or so if I don't get my act together.
 
Serious question for the ladies here.

If you started dating a guy who was well past the age where one normally starts dating and being sexually active- let's say mid 20s through early 30s- and it turns out that he's never done either, that his life has been rather...socially deficient, and he's still trying to get his life together in that regard, how would you react? I'm sure some girls would say something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind as long as I like him", but realistically I wouldn't necessarily blame a girl who's beyond her college years for not wanting to be with a guy who has zero dating experience and probably has reasons for it. How tolerate are girls of that kind of thing as long as they're attracted to the guy and enjoy his company?

If a girl ditches you because if it then she wasn't worthwhile in the first place. I won't lie and say you'll have an easy time of it, because you won't. There is some truth in some women not finding men desirable if other women don't also find them desirable. But it isn't an impossible situation and there really are girls out there who wouldn't mind working with you on it.
 
Serious question for the ladies here.

If you started dating a guy who was well past the age where one normally starts dating and being sexually active- let's say mid 20s through early 30s- and it turns out that he's never done either, that his life has been rather...socially deficient, and he's still trying to get his life together in that regard, how would you react? I'm sure some girls would say something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind as long as I like him", but realistically I wouldn't necessarily blame a girl who's beyond her college years for not wanting to be with a guy who has zero dating experience and probably has reasons for it. How tolerant are girls of that kind of thing as long as they're attracted to the guy and enjoy his company?

I'm sort of a late bloomer myself (23 and only just now in my first serious, serious relationship), so maybe this won't help much. But I wouldn't mind, honestly. As long as you're up front with someone about your lack of experience, but not making a huge deal out of it, I don't think most girls would have a problem with it, especially if they really like the guy. If every conversation turns into "Ogod I've never done this before jeez this is so weird I'm sorry if this is weird for you," then that could get annoying. So...be open about it, but don't make it into a super huge deal. If a girl really likes you, it shouldn't matter that much, and it can be an interesting learning experience for both of you. Might actually be kind of fun :)
 
Serious question for the ladies here.

If you started dating a guy who was well past the age where one normally starts dating and being sexually active- let's say mid 20s through early 30s- and it turns out that he's never done either, that his life has been rather...socially deficient, and he's still trying to get his life together in that regard, how would you react? I'm sure some girls would say something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind as long as I like him", but realistically I wouldn't necessarily blame a girl who's beyond her college years for not wanting to be with a guy who has zero dating experience and probably has reasons for it. How tolerate are girls of that kind of thing as long as they're attracted to the guy and enjoy his company?

Here's my take: if you're a good dude, you treat her right, and you don't use your inexperience as an excuse not to do things properly (I'm referring to how you interact and communicate - not sex), it's cool. Also, when you hit that third-or-fourth date mark where this stuff might come up, be honest about it.

If she's looking for the same things that you are, then you'll probably be OK. If not, then it probably wasn't going to work in the first place.

Something tells me that if you look for girls in their mid-20s, before the biological clocks hit and after the post-collegiate coming of age, you'll find more understanding ladies. But that's as much conjecture as anything else...
 
Here's my take: if you're a good dude, you treat her right, and you don't use your inexperience as an excuse not to do things properly (I'm referring to how you interact and communicate - not sex), it's cool. Also, when you hit that third-or-fourth date mark where this stuff might come up, be honest about it.

If she's looking for the same things that you are, then you'll probably be OK. If not, then it probably wasn't going to work in the first place.

Something tells me that if you look for girls in their mid-20s, before the biological clocks hit and after the post-collegiate coming of age, you'll find more understanding ladies. But that's as much conjecture as anything else...

Agreed. Nothing wrong with limited experience, I would just not let it affect your confidence too much. That's when you get in trouble. And don't apologize profusely if you're new to something, go more with the flow.
 
I have formal documentation for just such a request. I can send you a notarized copy if you'd like to forward it to your prospective applicant. Allow her 30-35 minutes for the questionnaire, of 45-50 if pajamas are involved.

I remember that doc that was going around years ago (and still out there today I'd imagine) which was to be signed during prior to drunken intercourse absolving either party of responsibilities from whatever happened. It left it open from anything to a poor performance to well... just about anything.
 
what's the best way to end a relationship that's been going on for 1 year, I took her virginity, and she dreams of marrying me and her family all knows about me and love me
 
LadyGAF. Met a girl whilst clubbing, we kissed, danced and at the end of the night she gave me her number. Texted her the day after and we set up a date. Had said date on Thursday, things went well. Texted her the day after, she agreed to a second date. Since then we've chatted a bit via text/im. I'm planning to set a time, date and place for our second date tomorrow. Would you, you being LadyGAF, be opposed to dinner & a movie at my place as a second date in this situation?
 
LadyGAF. Met a girl whilst clubbing, we kissed, danced and at the end of the night she gave me her number. Texted her the day after and we set up a date. Had said date on Thursday, things went well. Texted her the day after, she agreed to a second date. Since then we've chatted a bit via text/im. I'm planning to set a time, date and place for our second date tomorrow. Would you, you being LadyGAF, be opposed to dinner & a movie at my place as a second date?

What are your intentions and do you think she would reciprocate?
 
What are your intentions and do you think she would reciprocate?
My intentions are to at least get physical to some extent, but I'm not necessarily out to get her in my bed. If it happens then that's fine, if it doesn't that's fine too. The main line is to have a fun evening, get to show her a bit more of myself by means of my apartment and to establish that I'm both physically and mentally attracted to her.

I feel that, as always, the second date is the make or break date. She's obviously attracted/interested in me one way or the other, otherwise she would not have agreed to the second date. Due to unforeseen circumstance I was not able to kiss her at the end of the first date. I think I've fucked up several dates before by not getting physical soon enough and I do not wish to make the same mistake again, especially considering the odd circumstance that we already kissed prior to properly meeting.
 
Ok, I got a question for the women of Gaf. I was talking to a girl and told her I'm kinda of a shy guy so that's why I was being kinda quiet and she said "cute". What does this mean? It can't mean anything positive right? Since from what I understand women don't like shy/quiet guys.
 
Well women obviously differ from person or person just like everyone else. Did she change her behavior toward you after that?
 
what's the best way to end a relationship that's been going on for 1 year, I took her virginity, and she dreams of marrying me and her family all knows about me and love me

You had best have a sit down with her and explain what you want out of your future. Let her know that you don't think you want the same things and don't want to waste any more of her time. It might be painful for her at first, but ultimately it's the only fair thing to do for her. She probably won't thank you for it, but it's honest and better than letting her believe (erroneously) that you two have a future together. The longer you take the worse it'll be.

So ladygaf, any tutorials on how to tie your hair into a bun or top knot? Adding a little manly flare would be a plus.

Make pony-tail, take one part of the secured rubberband, twist and bend the pony-tail so that it's halfed (bun-loop on one side and end of pony-tail free on the other side), secure rubberband at this half point, twist so that it lays sideways, bun on one side and ends of hair fanned out on the other. Less girly, more samurai-esque. I've seen a lot of waiters/bartenders do this. In your pic you seem to have accomplished something similar anyway, though. Whatever you do, a bit messy works better for guys.

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LadyGAF. Met a girl whilst clubbing, we kissed, danced and at the end of the night she gave me her number. Texted her the day after and we set up a date. Had said date on Thursday, things went well. Texted her the day after, she agreed to a second date. Since then we've chatted a bit via text/im. I'm planning to set a time, date and place for our second date tomorrow. Would you, you being LadyGAF, be opposed to dinner & a movie at my place as a second date in this situation?

2nd date at your place sounds kind of quick. From an outside POV it looks like you're angling for sex (which you might be). If it was me I'd think it too quick/a bit presumptuous on your part. Unless she seems really into you/has given signs that she's also angling for that, I'd avoid the 'house date' for your 2nd meeting. You could always invite her in after going out if it seemed she was interested.
 
what's the best way to end a relationship that's been going on for 1 year, I took her virginity, and she dreams of marrying me and her family all knows about me and love me

Not a girl, but just fizzle it out. Contact her less and less frequently, when she contacts you take your time to respond or don't always respond, hang out wil her gradually less and less. She'll slowly emotionally disconnect, and then you (or she) will break it off fairly smoothly. Takes a few weeks but it's easy and ou generally avoid crushing her.
 
Not a girl, but just fizzle it out. Contact her less and less frequently, when she contacts you take your time to respond or don't always respond, hang out wil her gradually less and less. She'll slowly emotionally disconnect, and then you (or she) will break it off fairly smoothly.
Awful advice, wow. Do the exact opposite of this.
 
You had best have a sit down with her and explain what you want out of your future. Let her know that you don't think you want the same things and don't want to waste any more of her time. It might be painful for her at first, but ultimately it's the only fair thing to do for her. She probably won't thank you for it, but it's honest and better than letting her believe (erroneously) that you two have a future together. The longer you take the worse it'll be.



Make pony-tail, take one part of the secured rubberband, twist and bend the pony-tail so that it's halfed (bun-loop on one side and end of pony-tail free on the other side), secure rubberband at this half point, twist so that it lays sideways, bun on one side and ends of hair fanned out on the other. Less girly, more samurai-esque. I've seen a lot of waiters/bartenders do this. In your pic you seem to have accomplished something similar anyway, though. Whatever you do, a bit messy works better for guys.



2nd date at your place sounds kind of quick. From an outside POV it looks like you're angling for sex (which you might be). If it was me I'd think it too quick/a bit presumptuous on your part. Unless she seems really into you/has given signs that she's also angling for that, I'd avoid the 'house date' for your 2nd meeting. You could always invite her in after going out if it seemed she was interested.

Ahh, okay thanks. I'll try that. In my pic I just folded my pony tail in half and tied it up, this seems like it'll work much better.
 
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