JCreasy
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LOL almost as good as Bachmann, a member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, suggesting we should close our embassy in Iran.
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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing
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LOL almost as good as Bachmann, a member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, suggesting we should close our embassy in Iran.
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The Turkish president can rest easy. Perry will never be president of the U.S.
Oh, and I found this article interesting;
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...te-show-newt-clueless-on-black-americans.html
Can't argue with that. 90% of blacks will always go Democrat because Republicans are pretty tone deaf when it comes to the politics that blacks care about. Also Hispanic voters are swinging 67-24 for Obama over Mitt Romney. Good luck in November guys.
BTW, The comments are atrocious.
I can't believe anyone would blame Obama for extending the top-bracket Bush tax cuts.
That would require a person to have literally not been paying attention to the political scene in the last few months of 2010.
Buying up companies and laying off their employees to make a profit. Pays around the 15% tax bracket...
Yeah, Obama's people are gonna get some use out of that.
For most people, the buck stops with the President. People won't care about the hostage tactics when it comes to the ads...
Never underestimate the conscious decision to remain ignorant on how the legislative sausage is made.
JCreasy
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Wolfgunblood Garopa
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That's Republican spin for the valid criticism that Romney doesn't understand the value of money from the perspective of the vast majority of Americans.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I don't know who I respect less after last night--the candidates or the people in the crowd.
NYT actually promoting climate change mitigation sanity. I feel faint.
I'm sure they will get assaulted by the 350.org mob and issue apologetic retractions tomorrow.
I'm sure they will get assaulted by the 350.org mob and issue apologetic retractions tomorrow.
Makes too much sense. If we can't get to our goals by taking down the oil and coal companies, where's the glamour!
speculawyer
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Yeah, that is going to go over well during the general. Vote for the multi-millionaire that pays a lower tax rate than you do!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...is-tax-rate-is-probably-closer-to-15-percent/
RustyNails
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Mitt Romney: "Hey guys, I'm one of you. I pay the same tax rate as you do!"
Byakuya769
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Cap and trade made a lot of sense too when it was the "market solution" to a tax on carbon. I liked the article, but someone should bookmark Kosmo's reactions today to compare them with his reactions when such a plan becomes a political issue because it burdens industry.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Technically I'm unemployed!
i never really respected the type of people that were in the crowd
Sounds reasonable to me. Why exactly do you think people will flip out?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
15%?!
Taxes on job creators are too high! No wonder there are millions of unemployed, poor Mitt is being asked to give up more than 1/10th of his total income!
Taxes on job creators are too high! No wonder there are millions of unemployed, poor Mitt is being asked to give up more than 1/10th of his total income!
BotoxAgent
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bu...bu....but...why should I be punished for being so successful!!?
Aaron Strife
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Obama is up 5 on Romney nationally:
There. Will Diablos stop perpetuating the falsehood that Romney is beloved by moderates and independents, and PD that youth and Hispanics will abandon Obama in droves?
probably not
speculawyer
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Ironically, such low tax rates have created an inverse problem. Why should a rich guy like Mitt bother working if his tax rate is so low? He can just sit on his ass and the money pours in. If he actually works, his tax rate will go up. So why work? We've created a system where our "best and brightest" have the incentive to sit on their ass. Hang out at the beach. Maybe run for president as a hobby.
BTW, the GOP screwed up by not having this come out until now. They are stuck with Romney as their candidate at this point. Literally Mr.1% who pays taxes at a lower rate than Joe-Six-Pack. Brilliant move, GOP!
Frank the Great
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romney will shift to the center and start going after independents and moderates during the general election. it is way too early to make judgments, good or bad, from polls like this.
Aaron Strife
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And if he does, Obama's team has a shit-ton of videos of him flip-flopping and going for the right. He's not getting off easy.
Yeah, of course the situation could change a lot before November, but if this were showing Romney up by 5 the media would be going apeshit.
JCreasy
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I have a question about that though.
Can we say that McCain shifted to the center in 2008? I kept waiting for him to and he didn't, as far as I could tell: torture, Iraq, fiscal policy, etc. It seemed to me that he was more concerned with sustaining support from the base. That's what Palin was brought in to help out with.
Wouldn't Romney face the same constraints?
Byakuya769
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Never really seemed like Obama shifted far from his primary positions, either.
His reputation as a flip flopper with no principles should help here.
The Librarian
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Jonathan Chait thinks the Obama-Romney general campaign began on Twitter yesterday.
Kevin Drum's take on Sullivan's piece on Obama that came out yesterday.
Kevin Drum's take on Sullivan's piece on Obama that came out yesterday.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Some hilarity on the 'not very much' he gets from speakers fees:
Jesus christ, this guy is out of touch.
Jesus christ, this guy is out of touch.
notice he didn't say 15 percent but the "15% rate". My pet theory is that after deductions and (legal) accounting maneuvers he is sub 15% but above 10% effective federal income tax rate.
PhoenixDark
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I never said Hispanics would abandon Obama, I argued they might stay home given the inaction on issues they care about. As we get closer to the election those moderate numbers should slowly reverse, assuming the economy grows slowly/stagnates
Decent poll for Obama I suppose
Because there are hardliners on the left (McKibbin and Hansen being at the forefront) that will not accept mitigation plans unless it's focused around Co2. It is an unacceptable compromise for them to tackle the other gasses/particulates (ie. low-hanging fruit) unless there are firm plans to mitigate Co2 at the same time.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
This is actually a good point, the old McCain never surfaced, and I always refer to him during this time as selling his soul for the presidency. Even since the contest, he has remained mostly the same, with only the occasional disagreement with the gop.
Invisible_Insane
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Underway Indeed.
"Destruction rains from the heavens!"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-17/wisconsin-governor-walker-s-opponents-have-1-million-names-for-recall-vote.html
Money quote:
PhoenixDark
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What's the point in recalling Walker if they don't have a decent candidate to run against him? Unless Feingold changes his mind on running I don't see the point
The Librarian
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Anybody see the poll that put Perry in third place in the Texas GOP primary?
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_0117.pdf
LOLWUT!? I'd call that a decent candidate. And in the wake of the overwhelming recall support, you can bet anyone viable will be falling over themselves to jump in.
JCreasy
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Huntsmann turned out to be kind of a tool in the end,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-mitt-romney/2012/01/16/gIQADGsz2P_blog.html
but is ads against Romney were pretty great, LOL
Love the internet.
empty vessel
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I really don't understand why anybody ever tries to "understand" or "explain" a politician. It seems to me an irrelevant waste of time. It doesn't matter what Obama believes or what his strategies, if any, are. Our job is to demand what we want, period. Criticism is one way in which demands are expressed. (You failed to do this = I want this.) It doesn't even matter if that criticism is fair or unwarranted or whatever, as long as it is coming from the right direction (that being the left!). All that matters is that a message is sent. The louder and more persistent the message, the more Obama (and other Democrats and even Republicans) has to bend to it.
I don't know who those people are, but I'm happy to agree that they're dumb if they're outright ignoring science.
The Librarian
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It's official: Congress had its worst year ever since records began in 1947. A total of 80 bills were passed.
It's amazing given that it comes of the heels off the 111th, which rivals the famous 89th.
It's amazing given that it comes of the heels off the 111th, which rivals the famous 89th.
speculawyer
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So their evil plans of global wealth transfer are foiled?
McKibbin and Hansen have very little influence.
Climate change may end up being one of mankind's biggest problems but were too greedy and short-sighted to deal with it. Greedy and short-sighted describes humankind pretty well so perhaps it is best for us to suffer a fall from it. We steadfastly refuse to accept evolution.
Don't worry, there's nothing wrong with America that more bootstraps and less "Obamacare" can't fix.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I think it's obvious that if all the power was passed down to the states and then to the local counties this entire problem could be fixed.
PhoenixDark
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Sullivan's long game argument is just a continuation of one of the most annoying Obama memes: that he's some master strategist who plays 11 dimensional chess, setting the board in his favor for the future. Yet most of what Obama has done has been reactionary or politically expedient. He is far more concerned with short term political victories than long term policy wins, especially if the victory is "bipartisan." Let's not forget this is the same guy who would have raised Medicare eligibility ages if Boehner's idiot caucus didn't torpedo the deal.
He may be a personal liberal. His background certainly suggests he cares deeply about the poor, disadvantaged/how government can help, race issues, etc. But from a governing perspective he's always been more interested in striking deals than being some ideologue or long-game player. To make matters worse, he treats government like it's the Harvard Law Review where allowing your conservative peers to have more articles in an issue might result in them working together with you in the future, networking, etc. He genuinely seems incapable of recognizing he's dealing with an opposition that does not want anything to do with him, and all the horse changing in the world won't change that. Personally I think this may be a glimpse into his personality and childhood.
This is a guy whose own father abandoned him, his mother was distant for much of his life as well. When you add in the racial identity confusion I think we're looking at a person who was not loved as a child to a level many children were by their parents, and has therefore attempted to find acceptance through joining close communities, always being the giver, constantly trying to impress or be accepted by others, etc. Boehner has taken advantage of that for four years, and Obama seems perfectly fine with it. The same could be said of Joe Lieberman and some other people anyone else would shitcan asap.
He may be a personal liberal. His background certainly suggests he cares deeply about the poor, disadvantaged/how government can help, race issues, etc. But from a governing perspective he's always been more interested in striking deals than being some ideologue or long-game player. To make matters worse, he treats government like it's the Harvard Law Review where allowing your conservative peers to have more articles in an issue might result in them working together with you in the future, networking, etc. He genuinely seems incapable of recognizing he's dealing with an opposition that does not want anything to do with him, and all the horse changing in the world won't change that. Personally I think this may be a glimpse into his personality and childhood.
This is a guy whose own father abandoned him, his mother was distant for much of his life as well. When you add in the racial identity confusion I think we're looking at a person who was not loved as a child to a level many children were by their parents, and has therefore attempted to find acceptance through joining close communities, always being the giver, constantly trying to impress or be accepted by others, etc. Boehner has taken advantage of that for four years, and Obama seems perfectly fine with it. The same could be said of Joe Lieberman and some other people anyone else would shitcan asap.
Hansen who runs the GISS (NASA) has little influence? The guy who controls hundreds of millions of dollars in research money every year? McKibbin who was a key figure in getting the Keystone XL overturned has little influence? Okay.
Cyan said:
They're not ignoring science. They are purposely being hyperbolic for political/philosophical reasons.
el retorno
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Psychoanalyzing Obama?
jamesinclair
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"And then I get speakers fees from time to time, but not very much."
Really Mitt, a $250,000 fee every few months is chump change.
Really Mitt, a $250,000 fee every few months is chump change.
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