Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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megashock5
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I loved Shift. Zonda R is such a beast.
Wow, wtf, this is not even about gaming. Also, really really?? That accusation makes me kinda furious, ya know. But yeah, I'll send a note to all the popular people who have spoken about liking the show and telling them they are gateway pedo. Guttertrash.
Also, wtf with the Starcraft hate?? I understand Starcraft 1 with it's awful pathfinding and anachronistic control but Starcraft 2?? If you want something with real grand time strategy, how about going to the awesome genre of turn based? Or hear they are really good and shit.
Seriously, played SupCom, Sins of a Solar Empire and both were slow and boring games that lacked the depth of turnbased but had none of the fun of Starcraft. There.
wickedcapedkid
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I love NFS:Shift. I think it has the best, most immersive cockpit veiws of any racing game out there.
So there.
This is extremely pretty.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
It's more understandable as a guilty pleasure to me. Men are kind of violent and pervy by nature, though thankfully it's largely suppressed. Games like God of War are exciting because they appeal to this stuff.
Nintendo games tend to employ too much randomness in their gameplay, cute stuff, and/or simple gameplay. Though Wii Sports is obviously a classic for all ages.
I'll agree, though I usually don't mind feeling like an idiot. That's usually the point when I try to get into these games.
I agree.
Not controversial but Team Fortress 2 has too much shit in it now.
I find it hard to go back to Rayman Origins. Beautiful, yes. Interesting and fun, yes. But I just cant find it in me to continue sometimes. Not sure why that is, but that's the only thing I don't like about the game.
kurtrussell
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Chill out, dude. They called you a gateway pedo. Completely different proposition.
Gateway pedos haven't even touched kids yet.
-Jak2 was one of the best games on PS2
-God of War 3 is the best game this generation (Portal 2 very close second)
-Nintendo is not very creative outside of hardware and controllers
-This is the best generation unless you are a JRPG fan
-Action RPGs are much better than turn base RPGs
-Zelda series is based far to much on nostalgia, hence why people who did not grow up with the series find the games bland and boring
-God of War 3 is the best game this generation (Portal 2 very close second)
-Nintendo is not very creative outside of hardware and controllers
-This is the best generation unless you are a JRPG fan
-Action RPGs are much better than turn base RPGs
-Zelda series is based far to much on nostalgia, hence why people who did not grow up with the series find the games bland and boring
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Am not entirely sure this thread can work on GAF, as most of these opinions are what plenty of people are saying out loud already and arguing over every day, in most threads.
Edit: also, despite the OP's request, many frame their opinions in ways that can't be anything other than universal fact.
People can't say "I don't like the art in this game", it's always "this game is ugly and nobody will admit it", shit like that. They can't say "I like the conventions of Western games this gen more than Japanese games," it's "Japan has lost it and all their games suck."
Edit: also, despite the OP's request, many frame their opinions in ways that can't be anything other than universal fact.
People can't say "I don't like the art in this game", it's always "this game is ugly and nobody will admit it", shit like that. They can't say "I like the conventions of Western games this gen more than Japanese games," it's "Japan has lost it and all their games suck."
Isometric lootwhore games are terribly boring.
Halo CE wasn't a very enjoyable game. I've liked all subsequent Halo FPS games since aside from ODST, which I hate equally as much as Halo CE.
It's impossible to please oldschool 2D Sonic fans to the point where Sega shouldn't even bother.
Dragon Age II was a better game than Dragon Age I.
CoD is a better online experience on console than the BF series.
TimeShift was one of the better FPS's I've played this entire generation.
Halo CE wasn't a very enjoyable game. I've liked all subsequent Halo FPS games since aside from ODST, which I hate equally as much as Halo CE.
It's impossible to please oldschool 2D Sonic fans to the point where Sega shouldn't even bother.
Dragon Age II was a better game than Dragon Age I.
CoD is a better online experience on console than the BF series.
TimeShift was one of the better FPS's I've played this entire generation.
Bayonetta and even Ninja Gaiden 2 and Devil May cry 4 are still better than anything the west has produced in that genre. They do not suck.
Air Zombie Meat
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Respect for actually trying to explain your position. I think Charles Martinet is the only thing that really makes me cringe in Nintendo games. Oh, and being told to take a break in game all the time.
Blue Submarine No. 6
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Hardcore on-line FPS's and the dudebro "community" they foster (I'm looking at you Call of Duty) are absolutely the WORST thing to happen to Western console gaming since the Crash of '83.
I'll concede that (especially as the Battlefield community is so good)...only on console
Although I found your comment fucking hilarious, FoxSpirit has a point. I've never watched the show but what Cheech posted has got to be the most ignorant shit I've read in on here.
if it works as a general gaming garbage thread or keeps away the lolnintendo crowd out of interesting Nintendo threads then i'm ok with this thread.
Two of those games are on the list of games I had in my head when I wrote that comment.
SuperAngelo64
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Most western developed games are void of the 'right-brained' vibe.
Considering that westerners are primarily 'left-brained' and do not have a developed sense of holistic perception, the difference goes relatively unnoticed by the majority, or it occasionally will be noticed but not many can put their finger on what exactly is 'off'.
EDIT: Wow at the post below mine. Haha!
Considering that westerners are primarily 'left-brained' and do not have a developed sense of holistic perception, the difference goes relatively unnoticed by the majority, or it occasionally will be noticed but not many can put their finger on what exactly is 'off'.
EDIT: Wow at the post below mine. Haha!
metalshade
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I hate Japanese games. Any game with a spiky haired gender confused tween with a massive sword that saves the universe while accompanied by weird collection of friends and "cute" creatures is not coming anywhere near my TV.
Also, Xbox controller+my wifes cat gnawing on my knuckles>>>>>Playstation controllers.
I play COD to find out what the story is.
I like achievements.
I didnt like any Metal Gear Solid game past 1, and that was pushing it because of the Japanese issue!
Also, Xbox controller+my wifes cat gnawing on my knuckles>>>>>Playstation controllers.
I play COD to find out what the story is.
I like achievements.
I didnt like any Metal Gear Solid game past 1, and that was pushing it because of the Japanese issue!
Some more:
* There are a whole bunch of indie games out there that are more fun to play than nearly every single "AAA" western game this gen
* Japanese developers have a much better understanding of gameplay systems and risk-reward mechanics than western developers
* The Halo series is the most overrated game series ever (bad level design, incomprehensible story, wtf game design decisions)
* Random encounters kick ass
* Turn based battle systems are almost always more fun and better implemented than action RPG battle systems
* Virtual d-pads on cellphones are an atrocity, not to mention cellphone gaming totally pales in comparison to dedicated handhelds
* The western game press loves to harp on Japanese games not being up to snuff, but the majority of Japanese game companies are far more sustainable than the majority of western ones. Just look at the "studio closing" thread for more proof, most of those were western
* Westerners can't make a good fighter if their life depends on it... Hopefully Skullgirls bucks this trend.
* Call of Duty and Angry Birds are absolute atrocities of game design
* Videogames as a whole were better when the industry was mainly the domain of nerds and kids
* There are a whole bunch of indie games out there that are more fun to play than nearly every single "AAA" western game this gen
* Japanese developers have a much better understanding of gameplay systems and risk-reward mechanics than western developers
* The Halo series is the most overrated game series ever (bad level design, incomprehensible story, wtf game design decisions)
* Random encounters kick ass
* Turn based battle systems are almost always more fun and better implemented than action RPG battle systems
* Virtual d-pads on cellphones are an atrocity, not to mention cellphone gaming totally pales in comparison to dedicated handhelds
* The western game press loves to harp on Japanese games not being up to snuff, but the majority of Japanese game companies are far more sustainable than the majority of western ones. Just look at the "studio closing" thread for more proof, most of those were western
* Westerners can't make a good fighter if their life depends on it... Hopefully Skullgirls bucks this trend.
* Call of Duty and Angry Birds are absolute atrocities of game design
* Videogames as a whole were better when the industry was mainly the domain of nerds and kids
I agree, but with a limitation of Xbox/PS3 games. There are plenty of amazing Japanese PSP, DS and Wii games. Literally the only Japanese Xbox/PS3 game I would call "good" or better is Street Fighter 4.
Would you please expand on this?
Yeah.. I look at Call of Duty and the like and think, "oh.. so this is what all the middle-schoolers are playing? Hmm."
It's a bit funny.. Nintendo is seen as "teh kiddy," and yet - grumpy old man that I am - I see most FPS/Mountain Dew/extreeeemeee!* gaming as "You're trying too hard, kids.."
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(and I'm really trying to avoid the term "dudebro," since so many of these young, purportedly tough guys have thin skin when the label comes-up)
Majora's Mask is the Empire Strikes Back of the Zelda franchise. Not beloved at first, but 20-or-so years down the line everyone realized ESB was the true star of the Star Wars trilogy. Someday, people will come around and recognize Majora's Mask as the best Zelda game of all time (or at least best polygonal Zelda game of all time).
Oh sure, they'll still think fondly of Ocarina of Time. It's the A New Hope to Majora's Empire.
And I'll be there wearing a giant foam hat with 'I TOLD YOU SO' written on it in little blinky lights.
Oh sure, they'll still think fondly of Ocarina of Time. It's the A New Hope to Majora's Empire.
And I'll be there wearing a giant foam hat with 'I TOLD YOU SO' written on it in little blinky lights.
Maybe because people like to play good games? I went through 4 DCs, 3 xboxes, 3 ps2s, etc. and it didn't stop me from enjoying games on those platforms.
It's weird, I can't really argue with this post but I still love the games. =/
SaggyMonkey
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Skyrim and Zelda Skyward Sword are not only horribly overrated, they're both actually bad.
They should all be on it because you said "Japanese games from this gen suck" which means you think that applies to each and every Japanese game.
Bayonetta and Vanquish are both outstanding. I haven't played them myself, but the Souls games are supposed to be pretty good.
NinjaBoiX
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People keep saying this about Demon's/Dark Souls. It isn't intended as a criticism, that was clearly From's intent. But come on, it can't be just me that considers them rather difficult. I couldn't finish Demon's Souls, after 40 hours. Goddamn Blue Dragon...
Just out of curiosity, what games, at their default difficulty, would you consider harder than the Souls games?
Hard by most definitions is the prevalence of fail states which impede progression. Demon's/Dark Souls uses fail states in a completely unique way, making most "difficulty" comparisons invalid/impossible.
Reagan's BR
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Best FPS is the Halo Series.
Borderlands is not good.
Borderlands is not good.
I think Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 is an extremely fun and well-made game.
I'm going to have to agree with these two.
I'm going to have to agree with these two.
Fine Ham Abounds
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You'll have to forgive my brain, but this conjured up quite a variety of possible interpretations.
DerZuhälter
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Gaming forums are a huge waste of time. Believe me... I should be spending more time on my thesis.
Dogfacedgod
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I thought Ninety Nine Nights was awesome.
They are but I was thinking of a small list of the biggest offenders that I've played and 2 of those are on it.
TheLastCandle
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I have more of an issue with people seemingly not giving a shit about how unnacceptable those failure rates are. Stuff should work.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Wow, aren't you just a swell guy.
Ventilaator
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Oblivion is an unplayable mess
Fable III is easily the worst game I have played this generation
LIMBO is crap beyond the first hour
GTA IV is horrible
Nier is excellent and one of the most unique experiences you can have
Deadly Premonition's story and characters are among the best in gaming
The only big issue Final Fantasy XIII has is that the later enemies have too much health.
Mass Effect is so much better than Mass Effect 2 it's not even funny
Bastion looks great, sounds great, the narration is cool, and the gameplay ruins all of that.
Demon's Souls is not a hard game
Bulletstorm is one of the best FPS games this generation
Alice: Madness Returns is excellent in every way
Mirror's Edge is one of the best games this generation
Just off the top of my head.
Fable III is easily the worst game I have played this generation
LIMBO is crap beyond the first hour
GTA IV is horrible
Nier is excellent and one of the most unique experiences you can have
Deadly Premonition's story and characters are among the best in gaming
The only big issue Final Fantasy XIII has is that the later enemies have too much health.
Mass Effect is so much better than Mass Effect 2 it's not even funny
Bastion looks great, sounds great, the narration is cool, and the gameplay ruins all of that.
Demon's Souls is not a hard game
Bulletstorm is one of the best FPS games this generation
Alice: Madness Returns is excellent in every way
Mirror's Edge is one of the best games this generation
Just off the top of my head.
Derrick01 said:
You're saying that all great Japanese games are falling short in at least one area. Which Western games this gen avoid this, exactly?
As a starting point, a bunch of 2D action games.
Baron_Calamity
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Most DRM, including Ubisoft's, doesn't bother me and I don't see what the big deal is about it.
It's only been out a few months and the prevalence of Dota 2 e-sport tournaments have already utterly ruined an expansive, complex and customizable experience into a game where everything is categorized, tiered, standardized and minmaxed to hell and any deviation from the formula used by the "pros" is ostracized and ignored. It's prevalent even in our own GAF Dota 2 megathread. Even as a years long DotA-Allstars player, somehow Valve has managed to make the Dota 2 community more unbearably dreadful, albeit in different ways, than the original, despised community.
E-sports ruin everything great about video games and needs to burn to the ground.
E-sports ruin everything great about video games and needs to burn to the ground.
He's actually saying that there are no great Japanese games this gen because every single one of them sucks, as well as implying that Western games aren't behind the times in certain areas.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
These days the CoD franchise is, like, an Arnold movie. Dumb as shit, but fun for it's ability to continuously throw insane shit at you without regard for taste. That's why Black Ops is my favorite.
The multiplayer is generally too hectic for me, though Blops had its moments.
edit: When people use labels like "dudebro" in an argument, I generally just ignore it. It's kind of useful for describing a demographic, but like "hipster" it has outgrown its use and now almost means nothing.