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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing
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I majored in zoology, very far from the 1% : /
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Oh yeah, History major here. Also well represented in politics (one of the most common majors for U.S. senators).
That's your party bro.
Byakuya769
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I'm calling bullshit on zoology and biology, unless that is not accounting for people who major in that and simply go to med school.
Isn't history a common major for pre-law?
I think things like that are to be expected from the modern GOP base so the media probably doesn't think it's really newsworthy.
It's weird and sad that this stuff doesn't surprise me anymore.
Obama and his "pals", she never stops with that stuff.
Due to most American universities not having proper business programs until graduate school a lot of IB and trader types are from the liberal arts or economics.
Byakuya769
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Looking over the full list, seems like all it represents is which undergraduate degrees are most often used as feeders for MDs and JDs. (besides engineering degrees)
This needs to be interpreted carefully.
Note, while 11.8% of premeds became 1percenters, they represent only 0.9% of 1percenters.
All that means is that premeds tend to make more money, not that there are a lot of them.
The majors with the biggest share of the 1percenters (and therefore make up more of the rich people) are:
Biology
Economics
Political Science and Government
Accounting
English Language and Literature
History
The biology people who are 1percenters are likely all professors, doctors, dentists, etc. Other than them, it's mostly businessmen and politicians. The arts majors that made it are almost certainly all lawyers, politicians or lobbyists.
A27_StarWolf
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I heard the boos, at the most ten people, its not worth giving them so much attention.
Now defend the people who booed the gay soldier.
Frank the Great
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the debates would be much better with no audience. we are clearly too immature of a people to shut the fuck up at debates so maybe we should be kept out.
empty vessel
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Spoiler: I'm white and from the South. I'm obviously referring to the conservative white South, i.e., Dixiecrats, i.e., Republicans. We are talking about the GOP primary, are we not?
This is fairly meaningless information. Beyond the fact that it is really more like the top 0.1% or even the top 0.001% who are responsible for the increasing income divide, the more relevant inquiry is not what undergraduate degrees people have, but rather what professions they occupy. And that data already exists for the top 0.1%:
They aren't; there's just not that many of them.
Note also--and this is important--that the data in the Times blog does not describe individuals who are in the top 1% of income earners based on their own salary. It describes individuals who live in a household that is within the top 1% of household incomes. So a part (possibly a good chunk) of the data merely describes people who married well. The data I posted above regarding the top 0.1% describes individuals.
Agreed. It's the exact same problem as sitcoms.
That excuse might fly if there wasn't a despicable audience reaction at every other debate.
PhoenixDark
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ABC is mulling whether to air an explosive interview with Gingrich's former (second) wife before or after the SC primary. TPM reported on some of the basics most likely involved, last year
That's some Godfather shit, wow
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...aturing_ex-wife_begets_question.php?ref=fpblg
That's some Godfather shit, wow
jamesinclair
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Yeah, I guess that makes sense if you think.. We should help MPAA because things suck so bad right now for them because they want to make more money instead of potentially losing some to piracy.
We should help polluting factories save time and money by avoiding destruction of property lawsuits by setting a legal allowable amount of pollution instead of letting a neighbor choose to not allow any pollution on their property.
We should keep funding military contracts that have ties to the corporate media who keep promoting interventionist policies that necessitate more military spending.
We should give banks an easy emergency escape by making sure money can be created as necessary to make up for their failures in the market.
We should give a set of companies/lobbyists benefits so they get an advantage over their competitors because providing a product that consumers want is too difficult.
If I bought an apple, you don't have the liberty to just take it from me and eat it. It's my apple. You and I can come together and agree to share the apple, but at what point is government needed to decide how much of the apple you can get?
The reason why government has laws for intersections is that the government owns that property.
If you enter my house, you'll have to take off your shoes. It's my house, and I decide the rules, and people walk around in slippers in my house. Did I need the government to write some law?
I don't believe that you understand Paul's stance on economics. But sure, twist my words of being in general pro-regulatory to meaning I am anti-citizen. I have no sort of love for corporations, they are a mechanism humans created, and granted privileges by the government to be able to make our lives easier in exchange for some minor wealth inequity - there is no inherent right to their existence, nor should they have any rights to actively harm this world for their own capitalist owner's gain.
The regulatory system is damaged and is not working as effectively for the benefit of citizens as I or many desire. However to think that getting rid of regulation is going to make the regulation process better is mental gymnastics that all Paulities play.
Our government is not some monolithic outside entity, it is the realization of the desires of people that are born into a our society. We form government, laws, morals, etc. So a person with a stick doesn't beat you and take your apple you decided to buy.
Property is a MANMADE convention. Government is the sole entity that permits property to exist, and protects your rights to that claim.
I'm not sure how that came across as anti-citizen.. ? I was just pointing out examples of government enforced limitations that might have been sold as something sounding good but actually gives benefits to a few (corporations) at the expense of the rest. Unless you mean it's anti-citizen in that taxpayers end up subsidizing those companies instead of keeping that money to improve education, roads, etc.
Also, what am I misunderstanding about Ron Paul's stance on economics?
Sure, and the Constitution protects property and contracts. I don't think anyone is arguing for anarchy.
People don't go around beating other people with sticks and stealing their apples because there are laws protecting property, and breaking those laws results in punishment.
That's funny. My dad is very conservative, and likes Colbert, but he is aware of the satire. He just likes to laugh at himself sometimes. Though he likes to joke that he'll be watching it and say "good point! I agree with that!"
There's been quite a few polls that have shown that a decent chunk of the righties are completely unaware that Colbert is mocking them.
If Republicans keep it up, it will. Every week that passes I am less worried that Obama will be re-elected. This circus of a GOP primary is a big part of that.
The Librarian
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Unemployment claims down to four-year low.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/jobless_claims_reach_a_fouryea034847.php
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/jobless_claims_reach_a_fouryea034847.php
ReBurn
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It's good that initial jobless claims are down. I hope that the unemployment rate continues to fall.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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As the election gets closer, the House GOP's resume will be front and center, and there's no way any decent, intelligent electorate will allow those dangerous fools to have the WH.
The Librarian
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The Librarian
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I look forward to tonight's episode where Stephen Colbert will take credit. :lol
Joe Shlabotnik
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Would be delicious if Romney only ends up winning one out of the first three primaries. I think even a squeaker of a win in SC would still hurt him.
I am cautiously optimistic about this data. It's a very encouraging report. (I notice the better the news, the smaller the summary at Calculated Risk becomes - so much to say when it's bad, nothing to say when it's good.) I think it might bounce back next week, though how much remains to be seen. Early in January the seasonal adjustments are the largest in the year due to the temp holiday jobs expiring. Below are the seasonal factors (unadjusted claims are divided by these; 1.44 in 12/31 for example, to reach the seasonally adjusted number):
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12/31/2011 144.0
01/07/2012 160.9
01/14/2012 148.0
01/21/2012 109.9
01/28/2012 113.1
02/04/2012 111.1This week is the 1/14 report, and next week is the 1/21. There's a very large drop in the seasonal factor, which then flat lines going forward. If claims remain low over those weeks, then the drop will be confirmed as real rather than noise (claims are always volatile this time of year). Regardless, the year over year comparison is really encouraging.
Edit: good riddance Perry. His loss is Newt's gain, though, mwahaha.
empty vessel
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But the act of designating that apple yours blesses you with liberty and restricts mine. You can't wave a wand over it and make it go away. Yes, there is a social system in place for allocating the liberty to eat that apple to you and not to me, but you cannot deny that your liberty to eat that particular apple restricts mine. Thus, liberty frequently carries an attendant anti-liberty. In fact, in the case of eating that particular apple, allocating that liberty to you restricts about 7 billion other people's liberty.
I am not asserting that you should not have the liberty to eat the apple; I am merely explaining to you that liberty is not a free lunch. Your liberty has anti-liberty implications for others. And other people's liberty has anti-liberty implications for you.
First, I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm trying to get out. See the last paragraph, above. Second, the government (society) was already involved in allocating the apple to you. That is what it means to say that you "bought" it. It means you followed pre-established rules of the society for laying a claim to something as against everybody else. My only point is that these rules serve to allocate liberty between people.
No, it's to ensure order and minimize traffic accidents. We all recognize that we all benefit when other people's liberty is restricted. Even you. The only questions that we have to answer are what allocations of liberty (and anti-liberty) are reasonable? Which allocations produce the best overall society?
Zoology can be an easier way into a hard sciences job. While easier than a biology or chemistry degree, you can do both biology and chemistry with the degree post graduation.
The Librarian
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Interesting development in Michigan. MI Senate Democrats have proposed what they're calling "Michigan 2020":
No chance in passing, but an encouraging position.
http://www.michigan2020.com/education.html
No chance in passing, but an encouraging position.
Somone leaked McCain's 2008 oppo research on Romney. 200 pages in all. 11 pages just devoted to flip flops.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/18/o...he-internet-likely-from-2008-mccain-campaign/
I won't read it, but it's a pretty interesting example of how politics is being dramatically changed due to the internet.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/18/o...he-internet-likely-from-2008-mccain-campaign/
I won't read it, but it's a pretty interesting example of how politics is being dramatically changed due to the internet.
RustyNails
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The blacks = lazy racist meme originated in plantations of Georgia, Louisiana and other southern states where slave owners used to whip and insult their slaves for taking a respite. You lazy this or lazy that. When the racists were told by the federal government that they can no longer be such racist assholes, the overt racism has disintegrated into dog-whistles, which you see Newt consistently blowing. Newt knows how to get the juice flowing of people who get appalled when called racists, but very well hold racist views.
The complete self destruction of the Rick Perry presidential candidacy is one for the history books. I honestly thought the guy was going to do very well in the primaries. I had no idea what a complete dumbass he was.
I honestly can't believe that he has been governor of one of the country's largest states for that long.
I honestly can't believe that he has been governor of one of the country's largest states for that long.
cartoon_soldier
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Gingrich would be helped a lot more if Santorum dropped out but looks like that isn't happening.
Will be interesting to see what happens at tonight's debate.
The problem always has been that as soon as a non-Mitt candidate comes up, everybody gangs up on him and he slips. Will that happen tonight or will Gingrich continue to get standing ovations?
Will be interesting to see what happens at tonight's debate.
The problem always has been that as soon as a non-Mitt candidate comes up, everybody gangs up on him and he slips. Will that happen tonight or will Gingrich continue to get standing ovations?
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