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Would be nice if they actually stopped resorting to the evil Obama crap, we get it but what would they do its getting abit tiresome at this point .Kind of why I like Paul the guy is consistent and says what he thinks instead of the usual blame game and dodging tactic crap.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if a GOP candidate pointed out Obama's middle name as a critic against him
 
I had a big problem with Romney's misquoting of the declaration.

He said it says "the creator" instead of what it actually says "their creator." Romney's quote insinuates something that isn't there.
 
I'd say Newt had a strong start and inoculated himself from the ABC ex-wife interview pretty well right from the beginning.

Ranked in Order:
Newt - Strong start. Santorum landed some solid punches, but nothing that will really slow his momentum.
Santorum - He had some solid punches on both Newt and Mittens. But he did show he was being a bit over-sensitive (lol Ron) toward the end and he just lacked the presidential gravitas overall. He still sounds like a Congressman and not a potential president.
Ron Paul - He didn't get enough air-time and he still has a penchant for only attacking second tier candidates. If he wants to make bigger strides, he has to use his straight talk directed at Romney at least occasionally.
Romney - Lackluster debate overall. Too many blatant dodges, stammers, and he got torn apart about his tax returns (even the audience booed him on that). He didn't do terrible, but he was very shaky at times and clearly he's vulnerable on several issues.
 
And most importantly, Romney is the most moderate. That's why he'll get the nomination... Conservatives will vote for NO (Not Obama). Independents, like always, will determine the victor. Romney appeals to them more than any other candidate.

no he doesn't. Romney is no more appealing to Republicans than cough syrup is to children. Romney is neither who they are or what they want. He will be the nominee only because people think he has a better chance of beating Obama. But in truth, he motivates nobody.
 
So Romney says Obama is making it impossible for the private sector to rebound, yet previously when pressed with improving jobs numbers he argued the US economy always corrects itself and therefore Obama receives no credit. Which is it?
 
I like that we Romney thinks we should only talk about income inequality in quiet rooms and that merely looking to Europe at all for any sort of inspiration (despite not actually doing anything that similar to them at all) makes you a radical.
 
no he doesn't. Romney is no more appealing to Republicans than cough syrup is to children. Romney is neither who they are or what they want. He will be the nominee only because people think he has a better chance of beating Obama. But in truth, he motivates nobody.

Read what I said again. I said Independents, not Republicans.

Republicans WILL vote for whoever isn't Obama.

Everyone else WILL be disgusted by every other candidate not named Romney.

Oversimplification, but I believe mostly true.
 
no he doesn't. Romney is no more appealing to Republicans than cough syrup is to children. Romney is neither who they are or what they want. He will be the nominee only because people think he has a better chance of beating Obama. But in truth, he motivates nobody.

Yeah, if independents are going to vote for the most moderate person, they're going to vote for Obama, not Romney.
 
I really hope Romney loses. He's so boring.

He's also clearly not a Republican, but a Democrat pretending to be one for personal gain.
 
So Romney says Obama is making it impossible for the private sector to rebound, yet previously when pressed with improving jobs numbers he argued the US economy always corrects itself and therefore Obama receives no credit. Which is it?

As I've said previously, if jobs have significantly recovered or are recovering by November there may as well not be an election.
 
the south is obviously very important if the republicans are going to win

So the Republicans are the party of the south, and Democrats are the party of the north? What was the point of keeping America one country after the civil war if both sides continue to be at war politically?
 
So the Republicans are the party of the south, and Democrats are the party of the north? What was the point of keeping America one country after the civil war if both sides continue to be at war politically?

A country can have different cultures within it.

There's a concept called the "nation-state" in political theory.

The "nation" represents the culture of a society.

The "state" represents the government.

Many countries are composed of multiple nations.
 
So the Republicans are the party of the south, and Democrats are the party of the north? What was the point of keeping America one country after the civil war if both sides continue to be at war politically?
Splitting the north and south apart would've invalidated the American Revolution
 
A country can have different cultures within it.

There's a concept called the "nation-state" in political theory.

The "nation" represents the culture of a society.

The "state" represents the government.

Many countries are composed of multiple nations.

But wouldn't both sides be happier if America split south/north? The south would get all the Republican policies they want, and the north would get all the Democrat policies they want.
 
Was that Reince Priebus who said it didn't matter who the Republican nominee is because the election isn't about them anyway?
 
But wouldn't both sides be happier if America split south/north? The south would get all the Republican policies they want, and the north would get all the Democrat policies they want.
No, because not everyone in the south is a Republican and not everyone in the north is a Democrat.
 
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I can see these getting some play
 
So the Republicans are the party of the south, and Democrats are the party of the north? What was the point of keeping America one country after the civil war if both sides continue to be at war politically?
Today it is more liberals are on the coasts, and conservatives are the states in between.

The old south specifically was always conservative and the Democrats started out conservative as shaped by Jefferson, but FDR's 4 terms switched the parties and so the south eventually started voting Republican.
 
One question I wished John King would have asked all the nominees: What are you thoughts on the HBO series, Treme?

I am unwilling to watch this debate on philosophical grounds. Has any candidate mentioned Obama as the Affirmative Action candidate, or asked for him to release his college transcripts yet?

Trump said that Obama's an AA baby.
 
Presidential elections with an incumbent rarely are.

Agreed. I just find it odd that a party chair would be so dismissive of the idea of their own candidate actually mattering in such a way two days before a vote.

It's true, of course, but politics is hardly about telling the truth all the time.
 
Agreed. I just find it odd that a party chair would be so dismissive of the idea of their own candidate actually mattering in such a way two days before a vote.

It's true, of course, but politics is hardly about telling the truth all the time.

He was mad and the truth tends to slip out then.
 
But wouldn't both sides be happier if America split south/north? The south would get all the Republican policies they want, and the north would get all the Democrat policies they want.
There are many Texans who would like this. Seriously however, as I mentioned that the country is more split center/coasts and the center states take in a lot more federal money percentage wise. So the financial incentives are greater than the political incentives.
 
Well, he certainly doesn't have to worry about Romney.

I actually thought Romney did ok apart from the tax return.

Santorum was average, Paul (surprisingly) did really well, and I won't judge Gingrich because he's a colossal douche.
 
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