How does Newt feel about Bill Clinton?
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How does Newt feel about Bill Clinton?
They are not her daughters. They are HIS daughters from his first wife.
happyfunball
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I don't believe those are her daughters. They are the daughters from Newt's first wife and have a lot more to gain from saying this ex-wife is full of shit. In fact one of those daughters even sold her own mother out and in a not true kind of way. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree of scumbaggery.
Hey there, kosmo - oh whoops, my bad.
ClovingWestbrook
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When did Clinton run on family values as a core talking point of his campaign? Oh yea, he didn't. When did Clinton ever condemn someone on the opposing side for adultery when he was guilty as well? Oh yea, he didn't. And as others have said, Clinton was a serial adulterer as well and if the issue came up during his run for the Presidency it too would be a valid question during a debate.
JCreasy
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and even if they were, is there any likelihood that Gingrich would make this request, open marriage, in front of his daughters? how could they verify what he asked her?
so yeah the daughter-defense just doesn't work on multiple levels.
A27_StarWolf
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Yeah he has some problems in the past. There is no denying that. Okay, Bill Clinton lied and cheated, Newt Cheated and was a hypocrite.
I think the question could have been a fair one, but I just don't think it deserved to be a debate opening question.
He did answer the question by the way, she did say she was lying.
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Why are you calling me Kosmo? I think its a very good point to bring up. I think Bill Clinton was on the same level as Newt for this particular issue in my opinion. Why does that make me Kosmo or anyone else? What if you had never known that about President Clinton? He was still a great president.
ClovingWestbrook
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He said she was lying and he also said that he and his family went to ABC with friends who said it was true but ABC didn't want to hear it. ABC has come out and said THAT was a lie. But surely, Newt should be trusted. After all, he has a history of telling the truth...
A27_StarWolf
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Got the proof for that? No other news organization has reported that ABC said that.
You can't deny the timing of ABC's report/interview is there to hurt Newt Gingrich.
Just like Fox might have done something similar with someone from the democratic party for example.
edit: Newt just said on CNN a couple minutes ago, that his problem with Clinton was that he lied, and committed a felony. Upon asked about his actions and Bills, he has said if that is really something you don't like, or can't forgive you shouldn't vote for him.
happyfunball
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The question was worded horribly and not given the proper context, but when you have a lightweight like John King, that's to be expected. It should have been put in the context of each of their ludicrous positions on social issues.
You would also have to believe that all these personal friends also shared bedroom talk with Newt, his wife and the girlfriend.
Why are you defending a scumbag like Newt? Do I care that he is a cheater or has had 3 wives? No, not in the least - do I care that he decided to make a spectacle and impeach Clinton for doing a similar thing? Yeah. He's a duplicitous career politician that isn't above lying and cheating to get what he wants.
So, why do you defend him?
The secret service will be visiting him shortly no doubt.
ClovingWestbrook
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So lets see, Newt said his friends tried contacting ABC that he didn't ask his wife to have an open marriage and you believe that. How were they privy to such information? I know whenever I ask my wife for an open marriage, I make sure to invite friends and family to listen and watch. Right? Also, I provided the quote from ABC.
ivedoneyourmom already responded about bringing up Clinton for the false equivalency kosmo points of the day.
A27_StarWolf
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I'm a fan of some of his ideas on the environment, the space program, the economy (meh), and he seems to me like a person who indeed has big ideas, and can lead. I do like it when a President gets a little mad some times, or isn't afraid to be passionate. Obama got boring after the campaign trail, became a bit of a pushover.
To me Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum are way bigger scum bags. Ron Paul, I'm not sure how I feel about him. I just don't think he is the right material.
I don't trust ABC to tell the truth on the matter.
I'm supporting Newt Gingrich at the moment, ever since Jon Huntsman dropped out.
As it stands right now I'm probably pretty evenly split between Obama and Gingrich.
ClovingWestbrook
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What ideas do you like of his for the space program, environment, and economy? You like when the President gets mad? Because that surely was a valuable quality of Bush. A President who is so quick to react, right? You don't like our President gets boring? I.E., isn't quick to fly off the handle? Yes, that is surely a quality that is valuable when being commander and chief: quick to anger.
JCreasy
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You know I'm actually more concerned about this than anything.
I can totally imagine a nut seeing a GOP win in November as a lost cause and attempting to take matters into their own hands.
I'd imagine the secret service is aware of this as well.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Starwolf, you came into these threads proclaiming yourself a conservative and then revealing that you know very little about politics in general. Then you side with Newt Gingrich who is the ultimate political opportunist and human bag of shit. You should really read up more and see where your actual positions lie.
Try politicalcompass.org. You probably aren't as "conservative" as you think (even though a lot of the questions are worded to make you feel like garbage if you choose anything BUT the liberal position). Even if you are, Newt is NEVER the answer.
Try politicalcompass.org. You probably aren't as "conservative" as you think (even though a lot of the questions are worded to make you feel like garbage if you choose anything BUT the liberal position). Even if you are, Newt is NEVER the answer.
Last week he thought Huntsman had a chance of winning the primary. Just let him be.
If you ever wondered how easily republicans can drive over the bumps of cognitive dissonance, just read Starwolf's remarkable effort in defending Newt.
A27_StarWolf
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I'm not a political mastermind, and I'm aware of what I think and where my beliefs and values are on the political spectrum. I don't need to go do any reading on my political believes.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
LOL.
what ways do you agree with Newt's actual political positions and not just his "fiery rhetoric"
Yeah definitely a conservative.
happyfunball
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I think he's right, he's a Republican.
ClovingWestbrook
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smh. You're 19 freaking years old. You admit that you don't know it all, you have gotten quite a few things wrong, AND you still say you don't need to do any reading? Are you serious? Everyone in PoliGAF no matter the age or where they stand politically would never say they don't need to do any reading. Everybody has room to learn, grown, be influenced by facts and information that they weren't previously aware of and you're going to say your exempt?
book learnin is satan learnin
You can be as self-aware as a rampant AI, but if you're supporting Newt Gingrich, I urge research followed by a good long bout of self reflection.
Which ideas on the environment? 1993, 2007, or 2011?
As for the space program - I don't know much about his ideas of it, I am likely very in favor of some of those ideas - however, they likely are not tenable in this economic environment, and he is probably not a good enough speaker to get the country's interest in space reignited.
And his ideas on the economy are pretty much pure trash.
The Librarian
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And in one post, you have made it impossible for anyone to take you remotely seriously for a very, very long time.
:lol
The Librarian
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I don't need to read! I'm running for office, for Pete's sake!
Brrrrr....Palin flashbacks...
Woah, woah, woah. Watch the language there, Willard.
I realize you're just responding to a perceived attack, but whenever you find yourself saying (or thinking) this, you should regard it as a red flag.
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Aaaaand I see I'm just piling on at this point. I'm serious, though.
A27_StarWolf
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Then what do you think? I think that an ex-wife with obvious negative feelings might take an interview as an opportune moment to make a claim that neither party can actually prove true or false.
As seen earlier in the year with Herman Cain, while some of those issues may have been true... I suspect they were people grabbing for media attention.
Just like I think his second wife is doing.
Newt Gingrich is obviously not the best or ideal candidate, and I certainly would like to see other people in his place at the moment.
The man has one some hypocritical things and actions. So have half the people in politics and power positions.
jamesinclair
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Why would he trust them books? Theyre put out by the same liberals that control our news broadcasts.
Why are people doubting the possibility that Newt's daughter would have been in the room when he asked his wife for an open marriage? Considering what a sick, depraved, "family values" fuckwad Newt happens to be, I wouldn't at all doubt that he'd be into this kinky stuff.
Fixed to reflect proper grammer that I assume is rite since I don't do books.
PhoenixDark
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The SS is obviously good at what they do and on top of things, but I still worry about similar shit. Hell I wish Obama wouldn't hug people in crowds at speeches
A27_StarWolf
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Alright, lets make something clear.
I'm a victim of my own stupidity.
I did not mean to say I don't need to go do any reading in general.
I'm saying I don't need to go research my political beliefs, I've done quite a bit thank you.
I'm a victim of my own stupidity.
I did not mean to say I don't need to go do any reading in general.
I'm saying I don't need to go research my political beliefs, I've done quite a bit thank you.
I'm surprised the media is not giving any attention at all to the fact that Ron Paul straight up said he will not release his taxes. "I'd be embarrassed" is a horrible excuse (even if the audience cheered last night). If the media is going to go after Romney, they should do the same for Paul shouldn't they?
She actually brought this up 2 years ago in an interview with Esquire. The media just resurrected it. Here's the updated Esquire story on it: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/marianne-gingrich-interview-6641643
LET'S DO THIS
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