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I'm not a political mastermind, and I'm aware of what I think and where my beliefs and values are on the political spectrum. I don't need to go do any reading on my political believes.

Weren't you an Obama supporter until you decided you were disappointed in him and became a conservative (or some other equally stupid reason)?
 
Why are people doubting the possibility that Newt's daughter would have been in the room when he asked his wife for an open marriage? Considering what a sick, depraved, "family values" fuckwad Newt happens to be, I wouldn't at all doubt that he'd be into this kinky stuff.

Honesty the "I'm too much of a man to be constrained to one woman, baby. You have to share me" sounds exactly like something someone as egotistical as Newt would say.
 
I'm surprised the media is not giving any attention at all to the fact that Ron Paul straight up said he will not release his taxes. "I'd be embarrassed" is a horrible excuse (even if the audience cheered last night). If the media is going to go after Romney, they should do the same for Paul shouldn't they?

Paul is irrelevant, so there's no use to press him.
 
Alright, lets make something clear.

I'm a victim of my own stupidity.

I did not mean to say I don't need to go do any reading in general.

I'm saying I don't need to go research my political beliefs, I've done quite a bit thank you.

Sure you do. Everyone does. People change. You can ask people in this very thread where I use to be when I first came to NeoGAF. I didn't change because it was a fun thing to do, hell it's never fun realizing that you're been wrong. It's important to always rethink where you stand. The world changes, life experience has an influence on how you think, how you see the world, etc. If you think you don't need to research your political beliefs, I don't even know what to say.
 
I'm surprised the media is not giving any attention at all to the fact that Ron Paul straight up said he will not release his taxes. "I'd be embarrassed" is a horrible excuse (even if the audience cheered last night). If the media is going to go after Romney, they should do the same for Paul shouldn't they?

Everyone knows Paul isn't a serious candidate. He's said himself he can't imagine himself in the WH
 
Alright, lets make something clear.

I'm a victim of my own stupidity.

I did not mean to say I don't need to go do any reading in general.

I'm saying I don't need to go research my political beliefs, I've done quite a bit thank you.

That's not any better.

People should always question their beliefs and learn more about what they purport to believe - it's very likely the most important thing one can ever do.
 
I can't be too hard on him. I was an idiot politically coming out of high school. I voted for Kerry and later decided I was a libertarian because I got all of my political ideas from Penn and Teller's Bullshit.

I look back back on those days and feel disappointed in myself.
 
Starwolf:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do this. Post the results. It generally rolls through once a year, and the questions and results are often interesting. They can serve as a foundation for a discussion about why you landed where you landed.

You said you liked Newt's ideas on the economy. Which policies? Once we know that, we can discuss the established economic data and theory behind those ideas, and the merits of them.

I'm saying this because you've been asked many times to elaborate on why you so often self-declare as a conservative, or why you support a certain candidate, but you've never elaborated. It's very hard to have these conversations in the abstract. Without knowing why you are making certain arguments, and without knowing what those arguments are about, all we know of you is that you're conservative and that you support some pretty looney presidential candidates, of whom you neither know the history of nor are inclined to find it out.

And because of that, it's getting harder and harder for you not to come across as a blindly loyal partisan without any understanding or interest in policy. The Politcal Compass might be a good launching point for such a discussion; once you know where you fall, we can see where different candidates lie, and why, and then we're really talking.
 
I can't be too hard on him. I was an idiot politically coming out of high school. I voted for Kerry and later decided I was a libertarian because I got all of my political ideas from Penn and Teller's Bullshit.

I look back back on those days and feel disappointed in myself.

I was a dillhole when I came to NeoGAF. I figured I knew it all and I was very confident in where I stood. It took listening to the thoughts, beliefs, experiences of others to help me realize that I had a lot to learn. I honestly don't care where he stands politically as long as he stays open to what he believes.
 
He advocates, in a recent opinion column, three ways to resolve the divergent opinions America and Israel have on how to deal with Iran's nuclear threat. The third solution offered? That Israel should "order a hit" on Barack Obama.

Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States' policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.​

WTF? Forget the silly assassination thing, I just can't stand that arrogance of believing the USA is Israel's little bitch to boss around.
 
Starwolf:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do this. Post the results. It generally rolls through once a year, and the questions and results are often interesting. They can serve as a foundation for a discussion about why you landed where you landed.

You said you liked Newt's ideas on the economy. Which policies? Once we know that, we can discuss the established economic data and theory behind those ideas, and the merits of them.

I'm saying this because you've been asked many times to elaborate on why you so often self-declare as a conservative, or why you support a certain candidate, but you've never elaborated. It's very hard to have these conversations in the abstract. Without knowing why you are making certain arguments, and without knowing what those arguments are about, all we know of you is that you're conservative and that you support some pretty looney presidential candidates, of whom you neither know the history of nor are inclined to find it out.

And because of that, it's getting harder and harder for you not to come across as a blindly loyal partisan without any understanding or interest in policy. The Politcal Compass might be a good launching point for such a discussion; once you know where you fall, we can see where different candidates lie, and why, and then we're really talking.

I'm taking it now.
 
I was a dillhole when I came to NeoGAF. I figured I knew it all and I was very confident in where I stood. It took listening to the thoughts, beliefs, experiences of others to help me realize that I had a lot to learn. I honestly don't care where he stands politically as long as he stays open to what he believes.

I remember those days. We had you collecting welfare checks and burning flags in no time.

*wipes tear*
 
I was a dillhole when I came to NeoGAF. I figured I knew it all and I was very confident in where I stood. It took listening to the thoughts, beliefs, experiences of others to help me realize that I had a lot to learn. I honestly don't care where he stands politically as long as he stays open to what he believes.
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I'm taking it now.

Cool. I'll do likewise later tonight. I find I land a bit differently every year.
 
Starwolf:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Do this. Post the results. It generally rolls through once a year, and the questions and results are often interesting. They can serve as a foundation for a discussion about why you landed where you landed.

You said you liked Newt's ideas on the economy. Which policies? Once we know that, we can discuss the established economic data and theory behind those ideas, and the merits of them.

I'm saying this because you've been asked many times to elaborate on why you so often self-declare as a conservative, or why you support a certain candidate, but you've never elaborated. It's very hard to have these conversations in the abstract. Without knowing why you are making certain arguments, and without knowing what those arguments are about, all we know of you is that you're conservative and that you support some pretty looney presidential candidates, of whom you neither know the history of nor are inclined to find it out.

And because of that, it's getting harder and harder for you not to come across as a blindly loyal partisan without any understanding or interest in policy. The Politcal Compass might be a good launching point for such a discussion; once you know where you fall, we can see where different candidates lie, and why, and then we're really talking.

I just did it and here is my result:
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Pretty much where I've been since adulthood and very close to the Dalai Lama which was unexpected.
 
I was a dillhole when I came to NeoGAF. I figured I knew it all and I was very confident in where I stood. It took listening to the thoughts, beliefs, experiences of others to help me realize that I had a lot to learn. I honestly don't care where he stands politically as long as he stays open to what he believes.

It took moving out into the world, figuring out what I wanted to do with my life, what was important to me going forward, and extensive research about the world to learn my beliefs and to learn that libertarianism fit nowhere into that.

Every time I take that test I think I move further to the left. Karl Marx, here I come!!
 
I'm surprised the media is not giving any attention at all to the fact that Ron Paul straight up said he will not release his taxes. "I'd be embarrassed" is a horrible excuse (even if the audience cheered last night). If the media is going to go after Romney, they should do the same for Paul shouldn't they?

BUT HE IS SO REAL AND PRINCIPLED
 
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I wish I had taken this test when I first came out of high school or thereabout. It'd be interesting to see how different I am now. I know I'm way more liberal than I was then.
 
I think the compass could definitely go a little deeper, though, like asking real policy questions and debates instead of vague questions that make businesspeople feel bad
 
Interesting seeing where they put some of the politicians from 2008's primaries. Practically the entire political spectrum in the US is in the opposite quadrant of everyone that's posted thus far.

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Anyone who ones for President is egotistical.

I think you mean wuns foa Pwesident.

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Interesting seeing where they put some of the politicians from 2008's primaries. Practically the entire political spectrum in the US is in the opposite quadrant of everyone that's posted thus far.

Yeah, it's pretty sickening.
 
There should be a "no opinion" option on that compass test. The question about mandatory school attendance was one I waffled on for a bit. Anyway:

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Moar fun times with Newt:

The Newtster said:
I had a very interesting dialogue Monday night in Myrtle Beach with Juan Williams about the idea of work, which seemed to Juan Williams to be a strange, distant concept.
 
Interesting seeing where they put some of the politicians from 2008's primaries. Practically the entire political spectrum in the US is in the opposite quadrant of everyone that's posted thus far.

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C'mon. This whole thing is BS. It has me near Dennis Kucinich and I'm not even close. The only thing me and Denny have in common is a close encounter.
 
Explain the support for Medicare and Social Security.

Long insofar as the Reagan Revolution capitalized on societal upheaval of the 60s and the growing power of movement conservatives. There's nothing antithetical at the core of either programs for most conservatives, save for ideologues. Eradicating Austrian economics and Grover Norquist would go a long way to at least bridge the hyperpartisan gap we've seen over the last decades.
 
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