Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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You know me, PD. But nobody can match Kucinich in that category. Hats off to that nutty bastard.
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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing
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You know me, PD. But nobody can match Kucinich in that category. Hats off to that nutty bastard.
A27_StarWolf
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I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I think I'm more centered than it says I am.
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I think I'm more centered than it says I am.
Mortrialus
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I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
You're a Neo-Con.
A27_StarWolf
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I think I'm more towards the center to be honest, I don't like how I had to answer some of these questions.
I think that most of the political spectrum still is in that quadrant, but yeah they're probably grouped a bit closer together than that would suggest.
I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I suppose seeing this visually it makes a bit more sense to me how you could be choosing between Gingrich and Obama while the rest of us look on in horror. Looks like you're somewhere between the two and could stretch either way I guess.
And Mitt Romney is to the Right of Jon McCain, that's stupid.
My results. This time I even remembered to save the image.
Regarding where the politicians are placed, keep in mind that their placements are extrapolated from their public statements, while ours are direct from the honest source.
So, their results have a lot of "what I think people want to hear" baked into them. If they honestly took this survey, I imagine many would be on the other side of each axis.
Regarding where the politicians are placed, keep in mind that their placements are extrapolated from their public statements, while ours are direct from the honest source.
So, their results have a lot of "what I think people want to hear" baked into them. If they honestly took this survey, I imagine many would be on the other side of each axis.
A27_StarWolf
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I feel like if I could have skipped questions, or an undecided or neutral, I would be more center.
If we could skip questions we'd all be closer to the center.
Sorry but I think you answered those questions in a way that would make you look right wing on purpose, A27.
I know many people, right and left that have taken the test and they all end up in that bottom left section (including my parents who are staunch fiscal conservatives (although socially left wing))
You must have said you strongly agreed with some pretty fucking bullshit things on that test if you got that result, especially with how it's worded.
I know many people, right and left that have taken the test and they all end up in that bottom left section (including my parents who are staunch fiscal conservatives (although socially left wing))
You must have said you strongly agreed with some pretty fucking bullshit things on that test if you got that result, especially with how it's worded.
jamesinclair
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Obamas policies on TSA, indefinite detention etc arent authoritarian?
I fell right about where I thought I would
A27_StarWolf
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would you like me to take it a second time, since I didn't get the result YOU didn't think I would get?
Invisible_Insane
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Oh, come on. We can't bully him into taking the test and then say that there's absolutely no way he could have legitimately achieved that result. Besides, look at where he landed. He's basically Max Baucus.
rohlfinator
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Does anyone ever land on the "authoritative" side of that chart?
I can't say I've ever seen...
Oh.
I can't say I've ever seen...
Oh.
PhoenixDark
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I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I think I'm more centered than it says I am.
A27 is closer to Obama than all of us
A27_StarWolf
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I wasn't bullied into taking the test, someone asked me in a polite, respectable way.
I'm taking it a second time, for science's sake!
Technosteve
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am i still a centrist?
Someone back in the day made a giant chart of where everyone in Poli-GAF fell. There were a few in the upper-right quadrant.
Americans are further right than the rest of the Western world. Even Democrats are probably right of center compared to every other western democracy.
Yup that graph above shows it, democrats are slightly right of center. That makes sense, the conservatives in Canada are barely right of the democrats in the US.
Refrigerator
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For what it is worth, here is mine -
Invisible_Insane
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Not so much bullied as respectfully peer-pressured. I'm just telling him to lay off, it's not like you went in trying to troll the test. Some people are actually conservative, hard as that is for me to understand sometimes.
If the test was designed better (more and more specific questions, 'neither agree nor disagree' option) I would be closer to the center. If that was the case, I probably wouldn't have said anything.
Based on the test I took (and assuming the politicians would take the same test), I don't think they should be there.
They may be, but if he took the same test I did, I cannot foresee him being where they placed him.
A27_StarWolf
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I took it again, same results, maybe one or two off for lucks sake, but didn't change the end result.
According to this Kosmo is closer to Obama than most of us.
speculawyer
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Look at that. You are right in between the Democrats & Republicans. You are the swing voter.I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I think I'm more centered than it says I am.
That time of the year, huh?
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For context, I'm also 19 (sophomore in college). I'm from Indiana, always considered myself moderate/leaning right until I turned 16 and started actually reading/taking an interest in modern politics, and I changed to leaning left (health care was a big motivator for this, because my dad had always had health problems and my mom had just been diagnosed with cancer and the whole system seemed fucked).
Eventually, I starting lurking on Gaf, and then lurking in PoliGaf, and I became more and more liberal as I read the debates in here. I've been at about this level for the last 1-2 years.
(-7,-6.77)
For context, I'm also 19 (sophomore in college). I'm from Indiana, always considered myself moderate/leaning right until I turned 16 and started actually reading/taking an interest in modern politics, and I changed to leaning left (health care was a big motivator for this, because my dad had always had health problems and my mom had just been diagnosed with cancer and the whole system seemed fucked).
Eventually, I starting lurking on Gaf, and then lurking in PoliGaf, and I became more and more liberal as I read the debates in here. I've been at about this level for the last 1-2 years.
So this is what it's like when doves cry.
I believe that you answered honestly.
I figured it out - he didn't score closer - he scored exactly the same - Kosmo posts all those things about Obama to throw us off the truth - he IS Obama. Obviously no one can know Obama wastes his time on a gaming forum, so he has to spend a considerable amount of time hiding it from us.
I got you all figured out Obasmo - it's cool, I won't tell anyone.
A27_StarWolf: Yes. I don't care if your ideas stay the same, move left, or right - as long as you keep educating yourself on the topic, and keep an honest and open mind. You will naturally go to where you belong.
A27_StarWolf
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Well it makes sense, I've heard it said many swingvoters/ moderates have conservative ideals economic wise, and liberal views social wise.
So did I need to do a lot more reading on my political beliefs guys?
Narpas Sword0
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If you can't recognize the last thirty years as a failure of conservative economic thought, then yes
Invisible_Insane
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No one said that you need to do more reading because you're conservative. People say you need to do more reading because you don't know a lot of stuff and you seem to get taken in pretty easily by a lot of conservative propaganda. But everyone could stand to do more reading.
Some recommendations (I had to read these for a political philosophy course, but they really helped clarify my thinking on these issues):
A Theory of Justic by John Rawls.
Anarchy, State, and Utopia by Robert Nozick.
I should point out the following: Rawls is a liberal (in the American sense), and his book basically laid the foundations for American liberalism. Nozick is a libertarian. I do not think it would be possible to construct a principled defense of the Republican party platform because it contains some views that contradict each other pretty radically.
RustyNails
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Chicikov is so far left that to him Karl Marx is Ron Paul
The Librarian
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Of course. Why wouldn't you? I read one-two hours worth of political material every weekday.
Besides, and I'm trying to be as nice as possible when I say this, you display a lot of ignorance on a lot issues here. Taxes, health care, etc.
Ran through the test again, giving what I think of as standard conservative answers. Honestly, I'm having a hard time seeing how anyone could be very far into the upper-right quadrant without either having repugnant beliefs about nationalism, race, or teh gays, or holding obviously wrong views about corporations and/or economics ("what's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us..." for reals?).
jamesinclair
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What kind of stuff do you read? Are you talking Politico or Palins book kind of thing?
As for me, I was once young and center-right. Since then Ive read, educated myself and moved sharply
right and up
A27_StarWolf
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As do I.
What about those do I display ignorance on? I was pretty open to all ideas in the healthcare department admittedly not knowing a lot about it. I'm not well versed on Taxes, but its obvious the Rich need to pay more, but even more importantly I think we need to simplify the system, and completely rework it.
Noise Pollution
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Right where I expected.
The Librarian
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I sincerely doubt that.
Why? There's plenty of conservative political material out there; more than enough for an hour/day.
I took my time taking the test, and I think its a tad off in some ways to be honest. Other than that...
Thoughts? Nuclear Bombs? More Dog Piling?
I think I'm more centered than it says I am.
Yeah, these kinds of tests are only accurate to the first approximation; they're never as granular as I'd prefer. In my experience Political Compass is better than most. It's well established which way most of NeoGAF leans, and the results validate that. While you may be more centered than it displays, it placed you about where you'd expect to be relative to the rest of us, given your declared ideological viewpoint.
You keep using this phrase "reading on [your] beliefs," which sounds like the kind of thing a priest would say. You should read if you're interested in being well-informed, learning more about the world and exposing yourself to alternatives viewpoints.
The Librarian
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Because he said he doesn't need to do any reading.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't talking about political stuff as in looking up news, I was talking about political stuff as reading wonk!
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