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His son has a potentially long career in the Republican party. I don't think Ron would risk that.
Maybe.

But even if Ron Paul doesn't join in the fray, Gary Johnson will do just as much damage if he gets his campaign up and running.

This may turn into the primary slog of '08, except Democrats liked their candidates.
 
Why the fuck is he doing his generic speech against Obama now of all times?
I don't know. But Romney's speech just SUCKED.

Obama's "Yes We Can!" speech was about the greatest concession speech of all time. Romney's speech needed to be something like that.
 
it's amazing how big the swing was in the polls. It's looking like Newt didn't just win, but he won BIG... Romney must be reeling right now. He's still going to win the nom, but he must feel shitty right now

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Obama's "Yes We Can!" speech was about the greatest concession speech of all time.

Shit, man, Romney is incapable of such soaring rhetoric. Even if it was written for him, he couldn't deliver it.

But yes, no matter what one feels about Obama, that speech is an American classic now
 
As I said on here 15 minutes into the debate, Romney lost SC by not taking shots at Newt from the get-go at that debate.
 
The idea is to train people who are making a pittance in America to be useful to companies so that they can use them. In any case, it would make one a poor CEO to bring those jobs to America where it would cost the company more. Apart from patriotism, which is a fairly tired concept, companies like Apple don't have any obligation to local employment.

Train them to do what? The jobs he's talking about are the ones he's paying $15 a day for in China. If he's talking about those same jobs, he was full of shit. And again, simply wanted the government to subsidize training for his company.
 
Seriously, if he hits 40% it's going to look nasty for Romney. That's like a swing in a single week of over 15 25 points.

TPM has Newt at 41.5% and rising right now, Romney at 26%. That's a serious thumping by any measure.

If Santorum drops out, I'd wager most of his vote shifts to Newt, on top of it.

I still think Romney takes this, but for the first time I'm entertaining the possibility of a more, um, entertaining selection.
 
Supposedly Romney is getting Jeb Bush endorsement which may be big in FL.

this has been known for a few weeks behind the political curtain. Every member of the Bush family are Romney supporters to some degree, and it was clear Jeb was waiting for opportune timing - which is on the eve of the Florida primary, of course.

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I still think Romney takes this, but for the first time I'm entertaining the possibility of a more, um, entertaining selection.

I tell you one thing, Newt getting nominated will motivate me to vote for Obama. I was going to abstain this cycle, but I can't even begin to risk Newt becoming president.

Also, man, it'll be a hilarious presidential race.
 
this has been known for a few weeks behind the political curtain. Every member of the Bush family are Romney supporters to some degree, and it was clear Jeb was waiting for opportune timing - which is on the eve of the Florida primary, of course.



I tell you one thing, Newt getting nominated will motivate me to vote for Obama. I was going to abstain this cycle, but I can't even begin to risk Newt becoming president.

Also, man, it'll be a hilarious presidential race.

Can you imagine Gingrich's foreign policy?

Nightmare fuel.


What's a good news livestream that's covering the elections?
 
Ezra Klein tweet:

Reminder: this is the first time Republicans have split Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina three ways.​
I was wondering about this.
 
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Ezra Klein tweet:

Reminder: this is the first time Republicans have split Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina three ways.​
I was wondering about this.

Yup. That is the second amazing thing about this week. We went from "Romney is going to be the first presidential candidate in history to sweep Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida" to...

"Well, Romney won New Hampshire. I guess."

Santorum must be pissed they called Iowa for him so late though. I don't think it would have made a huge difference though.
 
Newt/Obama debates would be beyond awesome.

I was just talking about this with my dad. They'd be highly entertaining at the very least.

Either way, Republicans aren't enthused about Romney and the electorate will soundly reject Gingrich. What will be more interesting is what candidate will alienate more voters and give the Dems a stronger hand in congressional and local elections.
 
Seriously, if he hits 40% it's going to look nasty for Romney. That's like a swing in a single week of over 15 25 points.

The debate performance was huge. Man, John King must feel like SHIT right now. You don't ever want to be part of the story when you're a serious journalist
 
The one thing I do like about Paul is that he never really calls out Obama-- he indicts everyone as guilty! At least he's consistent and genuine.
 
10.9% of Precincts reporting

Gingrich 39.5%
Romney 27.8%
Santorum 17.2%
Paul 13.0%
Perry 1.2%
Cain 0.7%
Huntsman 0.4%
Bachmann 0.1%


30.3% reporting.


Gingrich 40.1%
Romney 26.1%
Santorum 17.8%
Paul 13.5%
Cain 0.9%
Perry 0.6%
Huntsman 0.2%
Bachmann 0.1%
 
I find Ron Paul's reverence for the constitution a little odd. Why should it matter whether Congress or the President declares war? Has there ever been a time when Congress and the President have disagreed on going to war?
 
Santorum is holding surprisingly steady at 18%. The consolidated Not-Romney vote is way above majority, if he'd just drop out it'd be Newt for sure.
 
The one thing I do like about Paul is that he never really calls out Obama-- he indicts everyone as guilty! At least he's consistent and genuine.

I don't think I've ever heard him personally attack ANYONE. He sticks to policy. He might be a nutter but he's a statesman
 
I find Ron Paul's reverence for the constitution a little odd. Why should it matter whether Congress or the President declares war? Has there ever been a time when Congress and the President have disagreed on going to war?

Idealogically, I don't think so. Politically, yes.
 
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