Devolution
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Growing anti-religious bigotry of the elites.
I love you Newt.
I love you Newt.
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US PoliGAF 2012 | The Romney VeepStakes: Waiting for Chris Christie to Sing
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I want a ticket to whatever universe you live in. Seriously.
Gary Whitta
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Anti-religious bigots? Fuck off, Newt.
Ravensmash
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I love CNN's live polling thing - so fun to watch.
Technosteve
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so newt won? nice i like him more then the other guy cause that mother fucker don't give a fuck.
EternalGamer
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Cause Obama is like, black. Black people love their food stamps. Get it? get it?
It would be admirable if it wasn't so disgusting.
Well careful what you wish for with a Newt/Santorum ticket. I agree that it would be hilarious, but just listen to the crowd. They actually believe that the GOP is fiscally conservative. These guys are in a bubble.
If the GOP can unite behind Bush, I would be cautious with Newt because it's slick at selling snake oil.
If the GOP can unite behind Bush, I would be cautious with Newt because it's slick at selling snake oil.
Invisible_Insane
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This isn't so much a speech as it is a concatenation of absurdities.
Devolution
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As long as that money isn't going to dirty poors or education.
acheron_xl
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The gap between the CO and MN caucuses on Feb. 7th and the AZ and MI primaries on Feb 28th is going to be torturously long.
It's why Romney thinks he can just say whatever he wants and not be called on it. The GOP has been remarkably effective in weaving their own version of reality through rhetoric alone.
It's why Romney thinks he can just say whatever he wants and not be called on it. The GOP has been remarkably effective in weaving their own version of reality through rhetoric alone.
Officerrob
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You can find enough people to fill a room for any wackjob belief you could dream of. It's not very impressive
He's a plutpcrat, definitely NOT a technocrat
Ravensmash
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I really wish he'd stop saying "entire second world war in three years".
I know he's referring to the American effort, but eh.
I know he's referring to the American effort, but eh.
Seriously. Newt supports gold standard? I doubt that.
Newt is the ultimate politician.
Gary Whitta
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What the FUCK is he going on about? Newt is flat out LOONY!
And you think independents would lap up Newt? Even better, Santorum?
Those two are the most toxic political figures to independent voters.
I see what you're saying, and agree to a degree, but sometimes Obama's style is super effective. That time he debated the entirety of the GOP house regarding health care and absolutely tore all of them apart was pretty amazing.
I honestly think that Obama would make Gingrich look like an immature, ignorant fool in a debate. Obama would actually call him on his bullshit. Sure, Republican voters would think that Newt destroyed Obama, but independents, to whom Newt is already toxic, would see right through his bullshit sound-bites if Obama is there to call him on it.
Devolution
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To be fair is there a sane one in the bunch?
I think Newt with a wtf VP would be the best chance that Obama would be a clear victor over the Republican challenger and give congressional democrats some fire power. I just want Tammy Baldwin and Elizabeth Warren in the Senate...
Gold standard is the least appealing policy of Paul. He's popular for his foreign policy, civil liberties, and being the sole fiscal conservative in the GOP that actually is serious about it.
Officerrob
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Does Newt think he's a comedian or something? This is AWFUL
PhoenixDark
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This speech has been 100% on Obama, unlike Romney's petty talking points against Gingrich in his speech.
His pandering is first rate. I think he can win Florida
His pandering is first rate. I think he can win Florida
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Absolutely agree. I'm not on the "LOL NEWT" wagon yet, especially if Santorum is his VP because of the evangelicals.
Invisible_Insane
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This is a god-awful speech. You don't need to hit every goddamn bullet point in a victory speech.
You're not thinking like Republicans. Imagine you believe Newt's talking points, but you're weary of his personal life being in conflict with your social conservative beliefs (yes, yes, using big government to enforce bullshit ideas, I agree, but we're thinking like a GOP guy). Santorum would fix that weakness within Newt.
Remember people voted for Bush just 8 years ago.
EternalGamer
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We really can't tell because right now Newt, or any of the GOP candidates for that matter, are in an echo chamber. Nobody is challenging the platitudes they and their fans just automatically believe them. They dont have to really offer support. No one is there to call bullshit on their rhetoric.
My guess is the rhetoric changes radically after the primary because alot of this stuff can't play to swing voters and the harsh light of real skepticism.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Do you think independents are going to run out and vote Obama? I'm not so sure.
Gary Whitta
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Newt genuinely scares me because he's just smart enough to be really dangerous. Also, he's an amoral slug.
I agree. Which is why its especially odd the aspect of Paul he said he supported was getting rid of the Fed and fiat money.
But look at how little moderates like Gingrich. And Obama beats him handily in most swing states in a hypothetical matchup.
My one concern is that Gingrich would get a base of supporters that would help pass the anti-gay marriage amendments on the ballot in South Carolina and Minnesota, while Romney wouldn't galvanize those people as much to the polls.
But both marginalize independent voters, Santorum even more so.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yep. Santorum basically eliminates any concern of evangelicals.
Devolution
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A lot of this stuff can't play to many fiscal conservatives who aren't idiots either.
Yep, Gingrich's style would play right into Obama's hands. Obama's a counter-puncher.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Agreed.
Noise Pollution
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Did everyone forget that Bush had one of the highest approval ratings of all time?
Compared to Newt or Santorum? Once SuperPAC starts showing Newt or Santorum stuffs or when Obama starts hitting back on all those slanders?
EternalGamer
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And many of the same people voted for Obama who won by a pretty large margin.
Here's the real question: is it possible that anyone who actually voted for Obama the first time to buy the line these guys are selling? Trying to convince them that real Americans vote only for Republicans and that Obama is literally a radical socialist isnt going to play with people that actually voted for Obama the first time.
Sure, it fires up the base, but you have to change some votes to win.
Devolution
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Wasn't that post 9/11?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...imary-exit-polls-2-3rds-say-debates-mattered/
Fuck ABC NEWS and fuck dumbass voters.
ABC inadvertently unleashed Newt because of their greed for attention. This is just more proof how dumb people are and how much of an effect the media has on elections.
Fuck ABC NEWS and fuck dumbass voters.
ABC inadvertently unleashed Newt because of their greed for attention. This is just more proof how dumb people are and how much of an effect the media has on elections.
acheron_xl
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The Librarian
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That didn't have anything to do with his policies, just an inflation of coming together as a nation.
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