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So your back-pedal is that you're a pathetic troll who just wants to get a rise of people?

What? No. I'm backpedaling on nothing.
a) It is impossible to say what would have happened to the economy if blah blah blah
b) My "unfalsifiable statement" was not intended as some sort of proof that my favorite politician made the right choice, unlike the ones I refered to in a). Instead, they were intended to suggest that the light in which some people perceive actions is colored, almost opaquely, by their political loyalties.

And I most certainly did not argue that I was pathetic. That is just you calling me names because of your intensely emotional reaction to reading what I wrote.
 
If Gingrich wins FL, what will the establishment do? It's not just the WH they're risking with a Newt candidacy; house and senate seats are at risk as well.

We are going to know the exact number of puppies Newt has kicked in his life, what their names were, and adorable pictures of all of them. All sponsored by a GOP PAC.
 
the war between Newt and Romney camps if he wins Florida will be so epic, words would not describe how entertaining this would become.

All Democrats everywhere should wish this to pass
 

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Palin bump!
 
If Newt wins Florida, the establishment is going to go nuclear. Seriously. They're going to go apeshit. They're going to pour millions into SuperPACs and Romney's run, negative ads of the sort we haven't seen maybe ever during a primary season.

A Republican operative said on CNN that if Newt won Florida, the establishment would go so indescribably crazy that he had no words to accurately describe the resulting internal war in the party.

The GOP convention will be epic.


The problem the Republicans have, and it is an enormous one, is that they still do not have a candidate that can beat Obama in a general election. Is it Christie? Would America vote for an obese man again as our leader? It's been at least 100 years since we did. If not him, who is left? Both Gingrich and Romney have fatal flaws, ones I just don't think they could overcome.

Gingrich is a fat tub of goop himself.
 
Romney must fucking hate Newt with a fiery passion these days. Here Mittens has been training and preparing for this election for years, taking his licks and biding his time. Then, when the teacher is finally about to call on him here's Newt in the back of the classroom stealing the show by trying to fart so loud he shits his pants.
 
So what happened to the banks that didn't get a bail out?

No one knows! Everything is too complicated!

By the way, here are some conservative talking points on all the good things that will happen to the economy if preferred policies are pursued.

Don't argue with them because things are just too complicated.
 
the war between Newt and Romney camps if he wins Florida will be so epic, words would not describe how entertaining this would become.

All Democrats everywhere should wish this to pass

Reminds me of 2008, when all the Republicans were hoping that Clinton vs. Obama would get ugly. As if those middle aged Democratic women would actually vote Republican in the end because their girl didn't win. Wishful thinking, as there was really no difference between the two, policy-wise. I think the real hope was that the Clintons would pull some underhanded shit, anything to win. Didn't happen.

But you might be right. I hope it happens, because I dislike them all.
 
Romney must fucking hate Newt with a fiery passion these days. Here Mittens has been training and preparing for this election for years, taking his licks and biding his time. Then, when the teacher is finally about to call on him here's Newt in the back of the classroom stealing the show by trying to fart so loud he shits his pants.

:lol
 
I'm not so sure Democrats should rejoice. Whoever emerges is going to be on the fucking warpath.

I'm sorry, Newt has less than a 0% chance of being elected unless the Eurozone collapses. He is THAT unelectable. Everyone knows this. Dems know this. Republicans know this. Every poll and operative and pundit knows this. There's probably not a single dissenting voice from people in the know about this fact on Earth. Unlike what Open Source is implying, this is absolutely nothing like the Hillary v. Obama race. Both those candidates were immensely liked by their bases, and had huge enthusiasm. There is no enthusiasm for Newt whatsoever. His ufavorability ratings are so high they're shocking.

This is what is called a Republican Apocalyptic scenario: a candidate so bad that he wouldn't just lose the presidency, he'd destroy Repub down ticket races. It's plausible he'd lose 41 states or more.

If you consider yourself a Republican Bulbo, and I'm sure you do, pray right now.
 
BREAKING: Florida voters as gullible/dense as SC voters!

Honestly, this is probably the peak for Gingrich's numbers in Florida, what with Newtmentum in full force immediately after SC. Romney is already in DESTROY HIM mode and both his campaign and the GOP will have their death lasers trained on Newt from here on out until he goes away for good.

Still, if the numbers are this close it must have elicited a "gosh darnit" from Mitt. Maybe even a "fudgesicles."
 
No one knows! Everything is too complicated!

By the way, here are some conservative talking points on all the good things that will happen to the economy if preferred policies are pursued.

Don't argue with them because things are just too complicated.

They're so complicated that my projections for how the stimulus would affect unemployment were way off. Apparently, I just didn't realize how bad things really were. Oh wait, that wasn't me.
 
They either stayed alive or didn't. I'm not sure what your point is. I mean, I am sure that your point is that your guy is great and I'm an idiot, but I don't yet see how you are getting there from here.

My point is that the banks that didn't get a bailout, many people lost their jobs in the late summer/fall of 2008. Remember the video footage of employees walking out with their shit in boxes? But hey! Nobody knows what would've happened to GM if they didn't get a bailout!
 
My point is that the banks that didn't get a bailout, many people lost their jobs in the late summer/fall of 2008. Remember the video footage of employees walking out with their shit in boxes? But hey! Nobody knows what would've happened to GM if they didn't get a bailout!

Because no one knows how it would have been settled in bankruptcy court. Some layoffs, probably. Some pay cuts, probably. Maybe some assets sold off. Secured creditors do better (and perhaps the extra money they get goes towards creating new jobs - but again, no one knows).

Also, GM going bankrupt is quite a different situation from the government taking over a bank, for many reasons pertaining both to the nature of the business and the regulations that govern them.
 
I'm sorry, Newt has less than a 0% chance of being elected unless the Eurozone collapses. He is THAT unelectable. Everyone knows this. Dems know this. Republicans know this. Every poll and operative and pundit knows this. There's probably not a single dissenting voice from people in the know about this fact on Earth. Unlike what Open Source is implying, this is absolutely nothing like the Hillary v. Obama race. Both those candidates were immensely liked by their bases, and had huge enthusiasm. There is no enthusiasm for Newt whatsoever. His ufavorability ratings are so high they're shocking.

This is what is called a Republican Apocalyptic scenario: a candidate so bad that he wouldn't just lose the presidency, he'd destroy Repub down ticket races. It's plausible he'd lose 41 states or more.

If you consider yourself a Republican Bulbo, and I'm sure you do, pray right now.
Shit. That response was a lot better than I was expecting (or deserved).
But.... there's one thing Americans rally around. It's the dog that couldn't help himself to fresh pussy. The harder the establishment pushes that issue, the more people will circle around him. I'm almost thinking he learned this from Clinton.
 
Shit. That response was a lot better than I was expecting (or deserved).
But.... there's one thing American's rally around. It's the dog that couldn't help himself to fresh pussy. The harder the establishment pushes that issue, the more people will circle around him. I'm almost thinking he learned this from Clinton.
People may have rallied around Clinton after the impeachment (not really rally, but I'll use your words), but Clinton wasn't a hypocritical Republican that wants to run based on at least part of a socially conservative agenda while being an adulteress pig in the process.
 
Because no one knows how it would have been settled in bankruptcy court. Some layoffs, probably. Some pay cuts, probably. Maybe some assets sold off. Secured creditors do better (and perhaps the extra money they get goes towards creating new jobs - but again, no one knows).

Also, GM going bankrupt is quite a different situation from the government taking over a bank, for many reasons pertaining both to the nature of the business and the regulations that govern them.

Liquidation would've meant thousands of jobs lost.
 
I don't think you've read what he wrote if you think "google legman brothers" is an insightful comment.

You mean the post he made at the same moment I was quoting his previous post?

GM isn't just GM, it's dozens of other suppliers and the ther car companies that depend on them. If he thinks the auto domino is so different from the bank domino he is ignorant
 
I'm sorry, Newt has less than a 0% chance of being elected unless the Eurozone collapses. He is THAT unelectable. Everyone knows this. Dems know this. Republicans know this. Every poll and operative and pundit knows this. There's probably not a single dissenting voice from people in the know about this fact on Earth. Unlike what Open Source is implying, this is absolutely nothing like the Hillary v. Obama race. Both those candidates were immensely liked by their bases, and had huge enthusiasm. There is no enthusiasm for Newt whatsoever. His ufavorability ratings are so high they're shocking.

This is what is called a Republican Apocalyptic scenario: a candidate so bad that he wouldn't just lose the presidency, he'd destroy Repub down ticket races. It's plausible he'd lose 41 states or more.

If you consider yourself a Republican Bulbo, and I'm sure you do, pray right now.

it could be the best thing for the GOP. They might be forced to reposition themselves as a mainstream conservative party, and not only will that benefit them but America in general. It's not healthy having a lunatic party that is viably electable. With demographics-a-changin' they GOP is going to find itself frozen out for a very long time in the not too distant future if it carries on regardless.
 
The Republican Party can't reform themselves unless they can change the radio and Fox News culture that keeps pushing it further and further right. Some Republicans are so wrapped up in it that you'd think they were living in the goddamn Mirror Universe from the crazy shit they say.
 
The Republican Party can't reform themselves unless they can change the radio and Fox News culture that keeps pushing it further and further right. Some Republicans are so wrapped up in it that you'd think they were living in the goddamn Mirror Universe from the crazy shit they say.

I agree completely. Unfortunately I don't see that changing any time soon since Fox and those radio guys are so incredibly profitable.
 
I agree completely. Unfortunately I don't see that changing any time soon since Fox and those radio guys are so incredibly profitable.

If they start losing elections, and losing badly, (big if) the media culture will change. They are symbiotic beings so if the political wing starts to die then the media will have to respond.
 
Romney must fucking hate Newt with a fiery passion these days. Here Mittens has been training and preparing for this election for years, taking his licks and biding his time. Then, when the teacher is finally about to call on him here's Newt in the back of the classroom stealing the show by trying to fart so loud he shits his pants.

Lol, this really cracked me up.
 
Romney must fucking hate Newt with a fiery passion these days. Here Mittens has been training and preparing for this election for years, taking his licks and biding his time. Then, when the teacher is finally about to call on him here's Newt in the back of the classroom stealing the show by trying to fart so loud he shits his pants.

That something Newt would do, too.
 
Romney must fucking hate Newt with a fiery passion these days. Here Mittens has been training and preparing for this election for years, taking his licks and biding his time. Then, when the teacher is finally about to call on him here's Newt in the back of the classroom stealing the show by trying to fart so loud he shits his pants.

Hahahah.
 
If they start losing elections, and losing badly, (big if) the media culture will change. They are symbiotic beings so if the political wing starts to die then the media will have to respond.

It's gonna take years and years. The Fox News audience needs to die off before things will change.
 
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