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[ShinNL]

I'm not cool with the idea of a God that creates gay people and damns them to hell for it.

If you say it like that it's kinda like pedosexual people not giving in their urges, which would be a sin, even though small little boys are what they lust for most. It seems that some extreme Christians consider homosexuality in the same vein: you might be one but if you actually do it, you're sinning. Or something.

 

[Mr_Zombie]

Is homosexuality considered a biological error of nature?

If it's an error (and we know that homosexuality isn't exclusive to humans) then that means the God isn't infallible.

 

[jaxword]

Lots of people believe being gay is a sin. I'm not sure why this guy should be singled out and have his name splashed all over the internet.

I'm sure you don't agree with him, so in regards to the public shaming...in this case, the guy publicly said something and then cowardly tried to cover it up when he got backlash.

So he knew he was being a total asshole, he probably just realized later that being publicly known for being an asshole is bad for his career
so he tried to redact it. Nothing moral about his decision at all.

Don't be an asshole if you don't want to handle the consequences.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Is homosexuality considered a biological error of nature?

Well it would be an error that's consistently passed down through heterosexuals as obviously homosexuals wouldn't be likely to make babies through natural methods. The theory that having a homosexual sibling increases your chances of having successful progeny makes the most sense to me but there's no way to really prove/disprove as far as I know.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

There are entire species of homosexuals.

Those are just animals that are able to reproduce asexually.

 

[ShinNL]

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

There are entire species of homosexuals.

But since you list breeding as a good reason to be homosexual, the fact that we as humans cannot breed with the same sex, wouldn't it still be a biological error?

 

[Mortrialus]

Those are just animals that are able to reproduce asexually.

The New Mexico whiptail lizards require lesbian sex in order to initiate ovulation and reproduction.

But since you list breeding as a good reason to be homosexual, the fact that we as humans cannot breed with the same sex, wouldn't it still be a biological error?

Biological error is a term that honestly doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

The New Mexico whiptail lizards require lesbian sex in order to initiate ovulation and reproduction.

It's not comparable to human homosexuality.

 

[Balphon]

read the end of his post dude

That just shows that he's convinced himself he's right, not that he's actively avoided attempts others made to get through to him, however unlikely that may be.

Still doesn't do anything to cast the mob reaction in a good light, though.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

The guy shouldn't have posted those things; but my goodness, those that replied come off as just as big of assholes.

 

[FO-totality]

Well, he's well allowed to have and voice his opinion, and will I disagree with him, he has every right to voic-

"Not open for debate. Opposing post will be deleted."

What the fuck? Guess who just dropped 10 points on rational human scale? Hint: it's not Gryffindor.

 

[sans_pants]

The guy shouldn't have posted those things; but my goodness, those that replied come off as just as big of assholes.

its film school, bro. everyone is an asshole except to your face

 

[Mortrialus]

It's not comparable to human homosexuality.

The poster simply referred to homosexuality in nature.

 

[jaxword]

You say it's wrong, but you can't judge whether being gay is truly a sin or not. Only God can (if he exists).

Do you apply that rule about God to ALL moral judgments?

 

[Shalashaska161]

I always sorta feel sorry for people the internet decides to hate on. Not saying this guy wasn't asking for it, as his bigotry shouldn't be considered acceptable by anyone. But I'm not sure he deserves the collective hate and harassment from thousands of people for it either.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Not really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

There are entire species of homosexuals.

Humans aren't comparable to whiptails though, what's good for one species may be considered an error for another.

Whiptails just mate I guess out of instincts they haven't evolved out of. They still end up making babies without transferring genetic information during intercourse. However, obviously that is a requirement for human reproduction.

That's why I like the theory that if a person makes a few heterosexual children and one homosexual child, that the likelihood of the heterosexual children being able to successfully reproduce increases. The theory goes that since humans like other mammals have an instinct to share and take care of their immediate family before anyone else, that that would make homosexual siblings not compete with their heterosexual siblings for mates, and at the same time if they get extra food or see some predator threatening their hetero siblings, they'll try to help them out.

As a result, having (arbitrary numbers) 1 homesexual child and 4 heterosexual child may have a higher chance of extending your family line then just having 5 heterosexual children.

One thing you have to consider is that if there is a genetic basis for homosexuality, then it is the heterosexuals who are propagating these genes.

 

[anaron]

I always sorta feel sorry for people the internet decides to hate on. Not saying this guy wasn't asking for it, as his bigotry shouldn't be considered acceptable by any reasonable person. But I'm not sure he deserves the collective hate and harassment from thousands of people for it either.

Eh.

 

[sans_pants]

I always sorta feel sorry for people the internet decides to hate on. Not saying this guy wasn't asking for it, as his bigotry shouldn't be considered acceptable by anyone. But I'm not sure he deserves the collective hate and harassment from thousands of people for it either.

guy is way into anonymous, too. at least i didn't personally post it on 4chan

 

[ShinNL]

Biological error is a term that honestly doesn't make sense to me.

Mutations in genes that are kinda against the nature (of your DNA). Like an albino animal making it too easy to spot (and hunted) in the wild. Things like being deaf / blind / lung illnesses. I think every creature has survival as one of the highest (if not the highest) priority, so I was wondering if people consider homosexuality a biological error (DNA mutations that shouldn't have happened).

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Mutations in genes that are kinda against the nature (of your DNA). Like an albino animal making it too easy to spot (and hunted) in the wild. Things like being deaf / blind / lung illnesses. I think every creature has survival as one of the highest (if not the highest) priority, so I was wondering if people consider homosexuality a biological error (DNA mutations that shouldn't have happened).

Read my previous post.

The point of reproduction is to keep passing down your DNA. That is why people feel the need to take more care of their siblings than any other random person as your siblings share much more similar DNA.

 

[Mortrialus]

Humans aren't comparable to whiptails though, what's good for one species may be considered an error for another.

I'm pointing out that homosexuality happens in nature, and sometimes it is required. It isn't really an "biological error" like being born without a brain and thus, incapable of living.

Whiptails just mate I guess out of instincts they haven't evolved out of. They still end up making babies without transferring genetic information during intercourse. However, obviously that is a requirement for human reproduction.

No. Homosexual sex appears to be required for reproduction in whip tails, as they do not reproduce except after sex. Sex, despite not involving the transfer of genetic material, still seems to trigger their reproductive cycle.

Mutations in genes that are kinda against the nature (of your DNA). Like an albino animal making it too easy to spot (and hunted) in the wild. Things like being deaf / blind / lung illnesses. I think every creature has survival as one of the highest (if not the highest) priority, so I was wondering if people consider homosexuality a biological error (DNA mutations that shouldn't have happened).

Homosexuality doesn't really appear all that disadvantageous in regards to evolution. Homosexuality happens in so many creatures, creatures that often still reproduce with the opposite sex despite being homosexual. It honestly doesn't seem to matter all that much.

 

[jaxword]

When I was a kid, my older brother got some big new boots that were really huge on his feet since he hadn't grown into them. Whenever he wore them he'd go HEY MIKE I GOT MAH QUEER-STOMPERS ON and chase me around the house kicking me until I ran and got my Darth Maul lightsaber and hit him in the face til he went away.

 

[killer_clank]

It's only an "error" in the sense that homosexual people will be much less likely to reproduce normally, which in evolutionary terms is a "bad" trait.

In the modern world though, it basically doesn't matter in the slightest.

 

[Mr_Zombie]

But since you list breeding as a good reason to be homosexual, the fact that we as humans cannot breed with the same sex, wouldn't it still be a biological error?

We're talking about homosexuality here, not impotence.

You can be gay and still have more children than a straight couple (you only need to have sex with a women or donate a sperm to a sperm bank for someone else to use it). You don't need to be attracted by the partner or be in a relationship with her/him to breed.

Homosexuality is in the same category of a "biological error" as singles or straight couples that simply don't want children. Nothing stops gays from having a child.

 

[i_am_ben]

When I was a kid, my older brother got some big new boots that were really huge on his feet since he hadn't grown into them. Whenever he wore then he'd go HEY MIKE I GOT MAH QUEER-STOMPERS ON and chase me around the house kicking me until I ran and got my Darth Maul lightsaber and hit him in the face til he went away.

Sounds like he's not honouring his side of the bargain then. Time to start karate chopping those spawn of his.

Maybe screw his gf/wife too.


In short: fuck evolution (and any theories based on it). It'll be like a gay version of gattaca.

 

[Timedog]

Yeah, whether or not it's an error or whether other species do it is irrelevant.

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

I'm pointing out that homosexuality happens in nature, and sometimes it is required. It isn't really an "biological error" like being born without a brain and thus, incapable of living.

No. Homosexual sex appears to be required for reproduction in whip tails, as they do not reproduce except after sex. Sex, despite not involving the transfer of genetic material, still seems to trigger their reproductive cycle.

I'm saying that the mechanism that causes them to ovulate and release eggs is triggered by the act of (mock) mating. This makes sense as evolution often leaves things in a species that it no longer actually needs.

We have to get our wisdom teeth taken out because they end up impacting our jaws which have evolved to become too small for them. Our skin gets goosebumps when we're cold because it thinks we still have tons of hair that can be angled to insulate us better (ie: when a cat's hair stands up). These are natural bodily functions that EVERYBODY basically does but does it actually serve any direct benefit? No.

I don't think homosexuality falls in that category though. At least not mammalian homosexuality. It's a consistent trait among a minority of the population, specifically the minority that could not reproduce very easily before the existence of sperm banks.

 

[Enco]

guy is way into anonymous, too. at least i didn't personally post it on 4chan

:lol

You hero.

 

[Replicant]

I love how social networking tools keep inadvertently exposing these bigots. Especially love it when celebs do it on Twitter and then oops, come the apologies.

 

[EricM85]

Film school, eh? How exactly does hating gays kill his barista career?

 

[Drkirby]

But since you list breeding as a good reason to be homosexual, the fact that we as humans cannot breed with the same sex, wouldn't it still be a biological error?

To an extent, yes. Also, thanks to modern medicine , it is actually possible for them to reproduce too, with the use of Sperm Donors and Surrogate Mothers. But Human reproduction being too small isn't an issue unless your Japan, so that doesn't really matter, unless you are some ultra paranoid person afraid of the < Ethnic Group> taking over <Geographical Area>.

While I'm drunk and and ranting, on a similar tangent to biological defects, people who shouldn't have lived due to birth defects and decease in early life to reproduce do, and it will be on the shoulder of Future Medicine to deal with the issue of a decease prone society. But we have been passing the buck to future generations since time long gone, and it is an issue that is simply not ethical to deal with by todays standards. Also, due to our current medical treatments, we are creating bacterial infections that antibiotics don't work on, so we are burning our candle on both ends.

 

[ShinNL]

We're talking about homosexuality here, not impotence.

You can be gay and still have more children than a straight couple (you only need to have sex with a women or donate a sperm to a sperm bank for someone else to use it). You don't need to be attracted by the partner or be in a relationship with her/him to breed.

Homosexuality is in the same category of a "biological error" as singles or straight couples that simply don't want children. Nothing stops gays from having a child.

Well, that's an interesting topic you brought up. The reason I started with my post about biological error is because I wanted to see what people thought about taking a more objective scientific approach to looking at things. The Facebook guy took a religious approach. The big difference is in the wording:

Biological error = not supposed to happen in nature = wrong from nature's point of view.
Against God's rules = sin = wrong from God's point of view.

I listed not being able to breed because of how nature works, like how a Liger can't breed after mixing a Lion and a Tiger once. But you twisted it into an interesting part: even homosexual people can breed by using science (and assuming people don't do stuff that they don't want, like forcing themselves to sleep with sexes they're not interested in).

I have several problems, one of them being narcolepsy. It makes me randomly sleep more and on unusual locations because my brain isn't handling sleep correctly. I consider it a biological error. Do homosexuals consider their gender preference a biological error? The example Al-ibn Kermit listed is a non-error: it serves a function, thus intended by nature.

 

[Qwomo]

That guy sucks but the guy who made those others posts sucks too.

Everyone sucks!

 

[[Clark Gable]]

Every single topic that I see like this, where someone is ranting about homosexuals, the person gets accused of being a closet homosexual. Has it ever occurred to the people saying someone is a closet homosexual, that maybe he\she is just an idiot? Or, maybe they are just ignorant? Every single fucking time. Also, his ignorant opinion. He has the right to say whatever he wants, even if he is an idiot.

 

[Zinga]

Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths. It would be bigoted not to accept the fact that so many people around the world accepts gods word and law on this. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.

Just like lying, stealing, murder and adultery is a sin, so is committing a homosexual act.

 

[Mortrialus]

Biological error = not supposed to happen in nature = wrong from nature's point of view.
Against God's rules = sin = wrong from God's point of view.

Honestly, I and most others would hear "not supposed to happen in nature" and think "Miracle."

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Personally, I find his "film production company" just as offensive.

Maelstrom Productions

Shit was that?

Will "In like a storm" become a meme now?

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Everyone sucks!

 

[HiroProtagonist]

can I edit the title with a v. film industry?

Vs. the film industry? Fo' realz? A stupid college kid vs. a guy who got his feelings hurt, more like. His facebook posts were asinine, but this thread is not much better.

 

[ShinNL]

Honestly, I and most others would hear "not supposed to happen in nature" and think "Miracle."

Miracle is a religious word though. Science just calls it coincidence

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

His opinion sucks.

Seriously; it's his opinion, yeah, but it's completely illogical.

"Hey guys, being gay is not wrong, but it really is"

I honestly hate that type of thinking. That you can be free to be a bigot as long as you just hate the concept.

 

[sans_pants]

Vs. the film industry? Fo' realz? A stupid college kid vs. a guy who got his feelings hurt, more like. His facebook posts were asinine, but this thread is not much better.

i meant as it pertains to the film industry, which i didn't mention in the title.

 

[jaxword]

Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths. It would be bigoted not to accept the fact that so many people around the world accepts gods word and law on this. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.

Just like lying, stealing, murder and adultery is a sin, so is committing a homosexual act.

Being gay is as sinful as murder.

Well, wrap it up, homosexuals, you heard the man.

 

[Kozak]

Oh, there's more than several. Most are too pussy to post their real opinions though.

No, most know that the hive mind will get them banned. Post an unpopular opinion results in what the OP shows.

 

[archnemesis]

Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths. It would be bigoted not to accept the fact that so many people around the world accepts gods word and law on this. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.

Just like lying, stealing, murder and adultery is a sin, so is committing a homosexual act.

Thankfully some denominations have evolved beyond this hateful line of thinking.

 

[Ryaaan14]

How did he make it this far posting shit like that on Facebook? He knows what the internet is, right?

 

[wwm0nkey]

Homosexuality in Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths IS a sin. That view is shared by billions of devout followers of god across multiple faiths. It would be bigoted not to accept the fact that so many people around the world accepts gods word and law on this. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah is an example of how God feels about this.

Just like lying, stealing, murder and adultery is a sin, so is committing a homosexual act.

So being gay, something that does not effect you or anyone else is as worse as lying, stealing, murder and adultery?

 

[jaxword]

No, most know that the hive mind will get them banned. Post an unpopular opinion results in what the OP shows.

Are you seriously whining that you can't express your hatred for homosexuals?

 

[bishoptl]

Personally, I find his "film production company" just as offensive.

Maelstrom Productions

That was so bad it crashed my browser!

 

[Timedog]

No, most know that the hive mind will get them banned. Post an unpopular opinion results in what the OP shows.

Despite the fact that you wrote "no" at the beginning of your post, you didn't contradict anything I said.