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Oh okay.
I like new announcements.
There was a blurb from Nomura that SE is--get this--developing a game! Who would have thought?
I'm only not a fan because I've never really played them. I suppose if I gave them a good shot I might get into it, they seem like the kind of thing I might enjoy.
Lies. SE doesn't make games anymore.There was a blurb from Nomura that SE is--get this--developing a game! Who would have thought?
Yeah. Metal gear fight was cool, manly fist fight on top of boat thing (I can't remember) was cool, hallway break your finger-athon was cool. I liked MGS4, not my favorite of the series but I think it's overly hated on.
I actually looked to see if such a thing existed. lol
Oh okay.
I like new announcements.
Oh, it exists alright.
Good old British innovation for you.
Pine needles are vacuum poison. It's not so much the canister or bag, it's the hose. You'll break your Dyson
There was a blurb from Nomura that SE is--get this--developing a game! Who would have thought?
I saw that. Those types of announcements piss me off. A game that will probably take 10 years to develop. During that time it will go through countless iterations.
Pine needles are vacuum poison. It's not so much the canister or bag, it's the hose. You'll break your Dyson
Eh, my parents went fake-tree a while ago. I suppose I don't really care though since I'm not the one setting it up or taking it down.
MGS3 has battles with The End and The Sorrow. Absolutely amazing. And of course, The Boss. *white flowers everywhere*
I guess it depends on your definition of game
Pine needles are vacuum poison. It's not so much the canister or bag, it's the hose. You'll break your Dyson
Maybe. If you vacuum using the piece shown in those pictures though? It's not really a hose. I'm not sure what that piece is called.
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Deus Ex is an SE game, and that game was amazing.
I'll have to play that. Anybody know how it runs on PCSX2?
H.Protagonist
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SE game by association you mean (I haven't played it yet, but I'd love to.)
I'm falling in love with Montreal more and more each day.But that's their Eidos (Montreal) Branch.
The ladies already got me covered on this one. SE makes no games
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Still Square Enix.But that's their Eidos (Montreal) Branch.
I hadn't played any of the other Deus Ex games, and I walked away loving this game so much. Outside of the awkward boss battles, it's still so very good.
Grammar-GAF, I beg your help!
I'm writing an article, and I'm not sure about the grammar for the following sentence:
Thus when anyone asks “Why should I watch this television series?”, he can be given the following answers...
Is my placement of the question mark, quotation mark and comma correct?
I'm writing an article, and I'm not sure about the grammar for the following sentence:
Thus when anyone asks “Why should I watch this television series?”, he can be given the following answers...
Is my placement of the question mark, quotation mark and comma correct?
Jamesfrom818
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I don't think you need the comma then again I am not a punctuation master. I have never used a semicolon when writing a paper for school
Pine needles are vacuum poison. It's not so much the canister or bag, it's the hose. You'll break your Dyson
Actually stet, it does have a hose, it's just internal. You're probably right.
Shouldn't a comma come after asks as well?
Technically this is punctuation and not grammar
Hmm, I'm not really a punctuation expert though I've read a few books on the subject. I think whether or not you have a comma would not be wrong in either case, but perhaps a stylistic choice. We have editors around these parts though, I'll leave it up to them.
Actually, this is how I would write it. But I've read that lately people do not use the comma before quotes, as they see it as overusing it.
Not sure about that either.
This is why I was a conversation teacher and not a punctuation teacher.
I'm not exactly a grammar expert, but it seems correct to me. The use of quotation marks is different in American and British English though.
Edit: sorry quotation marks.
Yeah, apparently in British English punctuation goes outside of these (). <-- like this, but in American English we do it inside (.) (please do not confuse this with a singular boob, thank you.)
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I was always taught in school that punctuation goes outside of the parenthesis, and I'm in the US.
Kitsunebaby
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I would write it:
Thus when anyone asks, Why should I watch this television series? he can be given the following answers...
Yep.
I was always taught the opposite. We can't even agree on such a simple thing :<
Jamesfrom818
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Yep. Punctuation goes inside the quotation marks.
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Maybe one day we'll agree on something. One day...
Actually, I think kitsunebaby is right. And that is actually how I would write it. lol
Weird.
Kitsunebaby
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I was taught that punctuation goes inside both parentheses and quotation marks.
Also, that you always use a comma before introducing a quote.
It depends on how you're using it.
For a short phrase that you put in quotation marks, I'm pretty sure the punctuation goes outside. Example:
In his State of the Union address, President Obama touched on the idea of "an America built to last".
Vs any kind of written dialogue where the punctuation goes inside, for example:
President Obama looked at me and said, "We need to build a stronger America for the next generation."
I don't think that I was taught about commas introducing a quote, it was just something I picked up from tons of novel reading.
Actually I think a lot of my ideas about punctuation were just absorbed that way.
Jamesfrom818
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Whatever the case, I've never seen an instance of an author doubling up on punctuations.
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Same here. Although, I don't always trust an author's English skills. I've seen way too many typos that got past an editor while I was reading.
okay!
Yes, that'd be better
Ideal. Well-done.
Not quite. Even without getting into UK vs. US, it can depend- though in the US we favor inside in ambiguous situations, which would be periods and commas.
Let me give you an example of some unambiguous ones:
- Did you hear Shelly ask, "Where are you going with that lightsaber?"
- Did anyone hear him use the phrase "a medieval holocaust"?
In the first case, inquiry was part of the quoted phrase- Shelly was herself asking a question. In the second, I was asking the question, and the quoted phrase didn't involve a question at all, so I left it outside.
Again, it makes sense to teach kids that as it's the safest (at least in the US), but it's more complicated because we are ridiculous. Also, it definitely is always appropriate to introduce a full quoted sentence with a comma as in Puddles' question or my first example, but typically inappropriate to use one just before quoting a partial sentence/fragment or isolated phrase.
Eeeehhhhh... man, this is where we get into trouble.
Your first example: "President Obama touched on the idea of 'an America built to last'."
This is what I'd describe as an ambiguous sentence. That is to say- does the period, communicating nothing more than a pause, occur in the original statement or in your statement quoting it? In truth, pauses are all over the place in speech and there's no way to really determine this as it has no semantic value.
In the UK, your use of punctuation would be correct 100% (are you in the UK?).
In the US, we'd go with: President Obama touched on the idea of "an American built to last."
Um. Sorry to go into so much there.
Punctuation is always inside the quotation marks. In parentheses, it depends on the context. For example, if you're talking about something (but then you have an aside like this, it's outside the parentheses).
If you're talking about something and then you finish. (The parentheses stand on their own, then the punctuation is inside.)
If you're talking about something and then you finish. (The parentheses stand on their own, then the punctuation is inside.)
Jamesfrom818
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A short phrase is another thing I've never used in writing essays and papers. Never get the chance when you mainly write research papers.
That they're of lesser intellect
Well, on at least the first count... see above as to how punctuation marks can sometimes be appropriate on the outside of a quotation mark even in the US.
As far as parentheses, you can use this as a rule: punctuation marks should only ever end a parenthetical statement if it's an entire sentence (not like this). Full parenthetical sentences are rare. (You may find them in textbooks offering a caveat or alternate theory.)
That's a good instance, but not the only one.
To use another source to describe what I gave examples of a few posts up:
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp said:
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