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[Kinyou]

I like how Bill instantly slipped back into his Lost in Translation character

They were made in the music factory that continuously puts out new girl band idols for fans to fawn over, so I guess they are kinda robots in a way. Also all the surgery too.

I'd really like to see some documentary about the music industry over there.

 

[Q8D3vil]

the world will end this year anyway.

 

[zychi]

I have 100% more interest in why Bill Murray and Regis are there.

I like it when you can see someone just awkwardly posing in the left of the shot when Letterman is announcing them.

Bill was fantastic(like usual) Regis was the ref for his field goal kicking outside.

Hunt the video of the full interview online.

 

[T.O.P]

In the mid to late 90's, due to media consolidation for the most part, you had a huge influx of one-hit wonders. I mean, I'm sure you can think of about 30 from a 5 year period. But, there was a diversity of hits. Ska, rock, pop, punk, rap, R&B. Even latin and metal. I don't think the Korean pop scene has any of that. Maybe it will come in time, but not right now. I'll be honest, I got a little vicariously embarrassed for them during the Letterman show performance. When you take this out of the context of the Korean pop scene, it's really apparent just how far behind they are as performers compared to popular Western acts, in my humble opinion.

Verbal Jint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ZoIJHHwjY

Epik High (random selection, they're awesome)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUGpPavsE8

Leessang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCIKrfw0ztI

JYJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcecmEa0NEg

IU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqdYqsrsA0

Clazziquai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td8AUQaHxxs

Clazzi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCYOTV92rpE

Tablo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmX-K7eadM

Brown Eyed Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJSJYC-VCw

No diversity, no quality, right

 

[Evening Musuko]

People tend to hate terrible shit, yes. It's fine that you like terrible shit. Most people don't though.

You're talking about GAF and the not the world at large right?

 

[Hot Coldman]

Here's the opposite end of the spectrum of Letterman performances.

 

[Timbuktu]

Do people know of popular music from Asia that's not completely manufactured? I don't really know Korean or Japanese pop, but the more 'authentic' pop stuff i know of would usually be from Taiwan, plus that one band from HK back in the 90s called Beyond.

 

[rdrr gnr]

So hot.
So bad.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

They were made in the music factory that continuously puts out new girl band idols for fans to fawn over, so I guess they are kinda robots in a way. Also all the surgery too.

The fact that their fans still know this and still eat all of the stuff up makes me question their ability to think things through.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Verbal Jint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ZoIJHHwjY

Epik High (random selection, they're awesome)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUGpPavsE8

Leessang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCIKrfw0ztI

JYJ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcecmEa0NEg

IU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqdYqsrsA0

Clazziquai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td8AUQaHxxs

Clazzi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCYOTV92rpE

Tablo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmX-K7eadM

Brown Eyed Soul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaJSJYC-VCw

No diversity, no quality, right

I'd sooner concede to your point than click a single link.

EDIT: I felt that was a dick statement. So I listened to about 20 seconds of each one. I wouldn't call that diversity, man. Not the kind I'm talking about, anyway. I'm talking more about a rock scene, I suppose.

 

[AcciDante]

K-pop Gaf ruins so much

Hey man, at least they're not all about ponies.

 

[hamchan]

You're talking about GAF and the not the world at large right?

I'm sure the majority of GAF likes some form of terrible shit whether it be music, TV shows, movies, etc. We just pretend we don't because we're all pretentious!

 

[oc]

So hot.
So bad.

Ah, so you like Nine Muses aka a strutter?

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

I'd sooner concede to your point than click a single link.

At the very least give Clazziquai a shot. They are truly brilliant on an international scale. Although that particular song isn't one of my favorites.

 

[shuri]

It's weird how not a single of them is really attractive. I'm not sure what kind of market they are going for; they are all grown up but seem to act like kids/teenagers.. is that their gimmick?

 

[Raelson]

I would much rather that Clazziquai, GD & TOP, or IU made it big musically in the US than Girls Generation. Girls Generation is much more fun to look at though.

Meh. Kpop will never really make it in the west as it is today. It really needs to be something extraordinary.
In my opinion, only Clazziquai of the artists you listed would have a chance to pick up new fans that aren't already fans of korean music, since they actually have artistic integrity. I could definitely see them appeal to certain audiences but they definitely wouldn't make it "big".
Regular kpop will never make it big cause their is no incentive to listen to it. Why would you listen to pop music from a foreign country when you can listen to western pop which sounds pretty much the same?

Also, the concept of girl and boy "groups" is bad and dated.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Hey man, at least they're not all about ponies.

Ruin.

Everything.

 

[questionmark]

Nothing against them or their music, but that performance was terrible. Im really wondering if they will hit it big in America.

Doubt it.

I would much rather that Clazziquai, GD & TOP, or IU made it big musically in the US than Girls Generation. Girls Generation is much more fun to look at though.

IU is no slouch.

I don't wanna hate or anything like that, but those pictures creep me out a little. I mean they are doing these "hey, let's spontaneously take a picture" kind of poses but at the same time you know that they trained these hours and hours in front of the mirror.
There's no real emotion behind it. They could be robots and you wouldn't know the difference

I think you're reading too much into it, it's a pose from the end of a song. No more, no less.

I'd really like to see some documentary about the music industry over there.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/101east/2012/01/201212673348120626.html

 

[Dabanton]

In the mid to late 90's, due to media consolidation for the most part, you had a huge influx of one-hit wonders. I mean, I'm sure you can think of about 30 from a 5 year period. But, there was a diversity of hits. Ska, rock, pop, punk, rap, R&B. Even latin and metal. I don't think the Korean pop scene has any of that. Maybe it will come in time, but not right now. I'll be honest, I got a little vicariously embarrassed for them during the Letterman show performance. When you take this out of the context of the Korean pop scene, it's really apparent just how far behind they are as performers compared to popular Western acts, in my humble opinion.

The dance routines for one are horrendous. Stiff and basic compared to top western pop acts.

 

[oc]

It's weird how not a single of them is really attractive. I'm not sure what kind of market they are going for; they are all grown up but seem to act like kids/teenagers.. is that their gimmick?

Okay, the trolling is just over the top now. I'm done.

 

[Megadragon15]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr4pwuykRK1r2g39zo1_500.jpg[IMG]

Ruin.

Everything.[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't that be Un now since Il is dead?

 

[Evening Musuko]

Do people know of popular music from Asia that's not completely manufactured? I don't really know Korean or Japanese pop, but the more 'authentic' pop stuff i know of would usually be from Taiwan, plus that one band from HK back in the 90s called Beyond.

You're going to have to be more specific when you mean "completely manufactured" and "authentic".

 

[Niks]

Who the fuck listens to this shit?
also, Ive seen way hotter asian girls, I mean look at this

ugly as sin.

 

[hamchan]

Do people know of popular music from Asia that's not completely manufactured? I don't really know Korean or Japanese pop, but the more 'authentic' pop stuff i know of would usually be from Taiwan, plus that one band from HK back in the 90s called Beyond.

Jay Chou and Lee Hom I would consider actual musical geniuses with their compositions and how many instruments they play at a top level, yet have still achieved extreme popularity.

 

[LiK]

"Hi, I just watched one random K-pop band on American TV and they suck so all K-pop bands suck. And they can't dance so they all can't dance. And American music is better and my taste in music is better than yours. Oh yea, Western pop is better than everything else. kthxbai."

 

[smurfx]

 

[vas_a_morir]

The dance routines for one are horrendous. Stiff and basic compared to top western pop acts.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. I think they are fine singers and performers, just perhaps the 9 person group kinda makes it difficult to do a lot. It's just a bit too safe. I feel like they've invested so much into each girl that they want to protect them as much as possible, which makes sense.

 

[G-Fex]

WHAT THE? THEY COULD SPEAK ENGLISH THE WHOLE TIME?

None the less I am a fan actually. I give their performance 5 stars.

I hope they do make it and gain popularity. I Like them a lot.

 

[Wendel Clark]

Here's the opposite end of the spectrum of Letterman performances.

<333 beautifulll finally songs that are actually about something i think

 

[Dice]

I'll be honest, I got a little vicariously embarrassed for them during the Letterman show performance. When you take this out of the context of the Korean pop scene, it's really apparent just how far behind they are as performers compared to popular Western acts, in my humble opinion.

That context is more important than you are giving credit for. I don't think it's that they are behind as performers, but they are going for something entirely different. Saying they are bad compared to american performers is like saying chocolate ice cream really sucks at being a chocolate bar. Of course it does, because it's meant for a similar purpose (enjoyment in some manner) but a very different experience. If you had a situation that called for ice cream and you got a chocolate bar, that would suck there. That is the sort of thing going on in context of the music, performance style, cultural difference, and expectations of the minds of american listeners.

Here's the opposite end of the spectrum of Letterman performances.

See, this is what I'm talking about. I enjoy this just fine, but the claim insinuated is so absurd to me. How can knowledge of music and all the ways it is performed and enjoyed be so limited?

artistic integrity

the pretension is hilarious

 

[ryan-ts]

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. I think they are fine singers and performers, just perhaps the 9 person group kinda makes it difficult to do a lot. It's just a bit too safe. I feel like they've invested so much into each girl that they want to protect them as much as possible, which makes sense.

Eh, it's a live performance in a super tight space. What would you expect?

 

[Sammy Samusu]

It's weird how not a single of them is really attractive. I'm not sure what kind of market they are going for; they are all grown up but seem to act like kids/teenagers.. is that their gimmick?

Not wearing that Snooki avatar.

Gerl bye.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Here's the opposite end of the spectrum of Letterman performances.

That was great, reminded me a bit of Arcade Fire.

 

[Alucrid]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSS!

Tiffany wearing red and speaking in english.

Life has been received!

Kelly and ten of the same girl?

 

[Evening Musuko]

WHAT THE? THEY COULD SPEAK ENGLISH THE WHOLE TIME?

None the less I am a fan actually. I give their performance 5 stars.

I hope they do make it and gain popularity. I Like them a lot.

Tiffany and Jessica are fluent since they were born and raised in California. You should invite them to guest host of NWA one of these days.

 

[140.85]

I have a crush on Tiffany and some of their Korean songs are catchy and fun...but this was just embarrassing. Awful.

 

[Raelson]

I'd sooner concede to your point than click a single link.

EDIT: I felt that was a dick statement. So I listened to about 20 seconds of each one. I wouldn't call that diversity, man. Not the kind I'm talking about, anyway. I'm talking more about a rock scene, Isuppose.

There are plenty of rock bands in Korea, it's just that no one knows about them. Kpop industry overshadows everything, which is sad. Lots of talent in that country.

 

[Majine]

Here's one Letterman performance I really love:

Robyn - Dancing on my own

 

[Bossniak]

Yesssss takeover the world girls!!!!

 

[G-Fex]

Tiffany and Jessica are fluent since they were born and raised in California. You should invite them to guest host of NWA one of these days.

you joke but a girl host on a NWA show could be great

 

[Dude Abides]

Why are they all doing the V/peace sign all the time? Is it in celebration of the death of Kim Jung Il or are they trying to appeal to drunk college girls on spring break?

 

[Phonomezer]

Here's the opposite end of the spectrum of Letterman performances.

I didn't enjoy that.

Quick, someone create a thread so I can call it shit, her ugly and make ridiculous claims about how unoriginal it is because people were using guitars 400 years ago.

 

[vas_a_morir]

That context is more important than you are giving credit for. I don't think it's that they are behind as performers, but they are going for something entirely different. Saying they are bad compared to american performers is like saying chocolate ice cream really sucks at being a chocolate bar. Of course it does, because it's meant for a similar purpose (enjoyment in some manner) but a very different experience. If you had a situation that called for ice cream and you got a chocolate bar, that would suck there. That is the sort of thing going on in context of the music, performance style, cultural difference, and expectations of the minds of american listeners.

The context changes everything. Their stiff dancing and safe, slightly dated sound felt strangely modern in the context of the Korean pop scene. But, even though I am no stranger to Asian music or SNSD, I gotta admit, I did feel vicariously embarrassed watching that.

Also, it is unfair to compare the Japanese scene to the Korean scene. It's just so much larger, that there is room for a lot more diverse music, and more of it is available to the worldwide audience. I don't doubt there are fine Korean rock bands, but the point is, I've never heard them.

 

[Hot Coldman]

<333 beautifulll finally songs that are actually about something i think

:lol I try not to look into the meaning of songs

See, this is what I'm talking about. I enjoy this just fine, but the claim insinuated is so absurd to me. How can knowledge of music and all the ways it is performed and enjoyed be so limited?

Actually my point was more 'yo motherfuckers, this girl group doesn't kill other music that you may enjoy, SUCH AS [example]'

I believe firmly in promotion of more music rather than harping on about something being crap a million times, so I seized the opportunity to steer this thread about a Letterman performance away from cattiness and towards something better

 

[Kusagari]

There's only one Kpop group that could possibly, a very slim possibility, have success in America.

And it's not Girls Generation.

 

[ryan-ts]

There's only one Kpop group that could possibly, a very slim possibility, have success in America.

And it's not Girls Generation.

Wonder Girls!


For Shizzle.

 

[Timbuktu]

You're going to have to be more specific when you mean "completely manufactured" and "authentic".

For me, it's probably when they write their own music; when they sing you can actually hear their voice; when it's a band that got together instead of a group put together by a producer.

Jay Chou and Lee Hom I would consider actual musical geniuses with their compositions and how many instruments they play at a top level, yet have still achieved extreme popularity.

So yeah, is Taiwan the only place where those artists and bands like Mayday can be popular? I like Tanya Choi from singapore too, her English album is pretty decent. Beyond is pretty much the only band to ever make it big in Cantopop, surely there must be some like them in Japan and Korea.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Sounds like shit.

 

[Phonomezer]

Wonder Girls!


For Shizzle.

Tried and failed.

And now they have Lim. LOL.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

Wonder Girls!


For Shizzle.

Wonder girls is worse than GG. The only possible group I would imagine he means is 2NE1.

I still say GD & TOP, Clazziquai, and IU are better though.