AceBandage
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Yup, gonna be a goodun.
Retro Studios Hires Uncharted 3, Darksiders Artists. Crunch Time "This Year"
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Ignis Fatuus
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I think they have as much money as Nintendo is willing to spend on them.
AceBandage
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ultrazilla
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The Retro "Legend of Zelda" reveal won't be so shocking.
The additional reveal of a Retro "StarFox" or return to "Metroid" being in development at the studio as well would.
Alas, all that talent focusing on what is most likely to be "Zelda" is really exciting. Can't wait to see what they're cooking!
The additional reveal of a Retro "StarFox" or return to "Metroid" being in development at the studio as well would.
Alas, all that talent focusing on what is most likely to be "Zelda" is really exciting. Can't wait to see what they're cooking!
AceBandage
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Well, it's not Zelda...
I don't want another Donkey Kong out of Retro Studios, I think it was suitable as a a stopgap to generate a lot of money whilst allowing Retro to rejuvenate the team, but another one would be a waste as Nintendo have plenty of teams to get yet another 2D platformer from. HAL Lab's, GoodFeel, EAD, the list goes on.
Considering Sakurai has also just handled a game relatively similar to Starfox, I'd like that to be missed out on as well. The only games I want from Retro in this order are
1| Metroid Prime 4
2| New IP
3| Quickly developed Zelda game akin to Majora's Mask
4| F-Zero
In fairness, I think Zelda would be very good for getting it out of the late generation arrival issues it faces. To release a Zelda game whilst Nintendo have the most powerful system in the market would bring the IP back to its cutting edge glory.
Considering Sakurai has also just handled a game relatively similar to Starfox, I'd like that to be missed out on as well. The only games I want from Retro in this order are
1| Metroid Prime 4
2| New IP
3| Quickly developed Zelda game akin to Majora's Mask
4| F-Zero
In fairness, I think Zelda would be very good for getting it out of the late generation arrival issues it faces. To release a Zelda game whilst Nintendo have the most powerful system in the market would bring the IP back to its cutting edge glory.
Eggplant Wizard
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I've started to think that we're all setting ourselves up for disappointment by hoping/assuming that Retro is making a game that isn't DKCR2. While F-Zero, Zelda, etc. would likely be amazing and great for their respective series if they're ready at launch, DK makes the most sense as a quick-to-develop system seller.
But DK2 doesn't need to be a disappointment. If it's Retro's next game, I'd love to see them go completely insane with it and push the limits of the series. If DKCR was New Super Mario Bros., DK 2 could be Super Mario Galaxy (flawed analogy, but you get my point).
But DK2 doesn't need to be a disappointment. If it's Retro's next game, I'd love to see them go completely insane with it and push the limits of the series. If DKCR was New Super Mario Bros., DK 2 could be Super Mario Galaxy (flawed analogy, but you get my point).
AceBandage
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Considering the people they're hiring, DKCR2 doesn't seem likely.
Not that it won't happen, but I don't think that that is this project.
Ignis Fatuus
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I think a hypothetical DKCR2 is more likely to end up on the 3DS rather than whatever they're making for the WiiU.
beelzebozo
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boo hoo, not a sequel to one of the best platformers of the past decade!
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Plenty of teams that could do F-Zero as well.
Too many 2D platformers you imply???
It's a dying breed as retail games, Nintendo is keeping the genre there alive.
Skiesofwonder
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Eggplant Wizard
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I was thinking that it's possible that the new people are being hired for whatever Retro does after DK2, after putting some finishing HD touches on it. Maybe not. I don't see why it would make more sense, money-wise, to put Retro to work on F-Zero or StarTropics or Zelda when a DK2 would sell a lot more. Not that I'd be complaining.
I agree, I think it could be great.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Wii U, 3DS, it doesn't matter, Retro owes it to platforming fans to at least make one more Donkey Kong Country Returns.
The game was so polished and so slick yet likely left so many untapped ideas on he table.
The sequel could be amazing, not getting why some people take that project for granted.
The game was so polished and so slick yet likely left so many untapped ideas on he table.
The sequel could be amazing, not getting why some people take that project for granted.
Out of Working Order
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I would love it if it turns out to be a HD DKC. I really would love another.
I don't feel HAL or GoodFeel could do this series justice, frankly. And why switch to a different developer when Retro knows their newly created engine more than anyone, and can kick it up a few notches for a HD sequel?
I don't feel HAL or GoodFeel could do this series justice, frankly. And why switch to a different developer when Retro knows their newly created engine more than anyone, and can kick it up a few notches for a HD sequel?
AceBandage
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And having NSMB3DS would have probably sold more than 3D Land.
And Sin and Punishment 2 could have been Wii Music 2.
Nintendo doesn't always go after "What can sell the most".
They go after whatever the fuck they want.
TheCongressman1
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I'd be down for that.
Also, there is always the possibility they are making a successor to DK 64. People specialized in large worlds, and whatnot.
He he he... It's gon be Zelda.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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How about a Donkey Kong Country hybrid game like the first Galaxy, platforming parts mixed with open worlds????
Eggplant Wizard
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Nintendo wouldn't have put Treasure on Wii Music 2. You're right about 3D Land, but there it's a case of 3D Land being made as well as SMB3D, where a Retro Zelda at launch would be made instead of DK 2. Plus, Iwata's been talking about the need for a strong launch for months now. What better way to kick off a system if Mario and Smash Bros. aren't available?
TheCongressman1
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I must have missed something in Galaxy. Either way, that sounds pretty nice. I have a feeling DK could work very well as an open world platformer.
AceBandage
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But at the same time, having a good, strong core game that draws in the crowd for games like Darksiders and Batman and CoD from Retro would do Nintendo wonders, more so than a new DKCR. That's a crowd that they can easily get later, but they have a limited timeframe to grab the nicher market.
Shin Johnpv
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3rd person Star Tropics.
I figure if I say it enough, the universe will make it true.
I figure if I say it enough, the universe will make it true.
JaseMath
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This. Again.
Eggplant Wizard
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Zelda very much still has the Nintendo label on it, and I don't think there's much Retro can do to change that. I could see this being accomplished with StarTropics or a new IP or MAYBE F-Zero, but it's always struck me that the way to draw in the HD Twin crowd is to actually get those third parties to publish for the console, not to make similar games.
If Retro is making something other than DK2, it's probably a case of Nintendo playing the long game, which would be smart but doesn't strike me as a move to be made by a company that just had its first annual loss in years. Or you're right and Nintendo is just doing whatever the hell it wants, which is certainly possible.
AceBandage
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It's a bit of both.
It's Nintendo's job to shape the audience of their system. And if they want a sustainable third party friendly userbase, it would be in their best interest to make games that would lead to third party titles doing well.
Also, keep in mind that this title will have been in production for a while. Long before Nintendo knew it would be taking a loss.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Retro should make Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 or a brand new adventure game IP.
/my post
/my post
Oh boy. Just thinking about a 3D DK open world platformer on WiiU with HD and all of Retro's brilliance is... torture. Cos it's not gonna happen :-(
Eggplant Wizard
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Okay, I get both of your points. I still don't see Zelda filling this role though.
squid said:
I just want a non-Mario 3D platformer, period. But I have no idea which developer should be put to task on it because nobody makes 3D platformers anymore. :/ Maybe Next-Level?
AceBandage
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Right, and Retro isn't working on Zelda...
Eggplant Wizard
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I'd forgotten your earlier post, sorry. D: What do you think it is?
AceBandage
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Most likely scenario is Metroid, honestly. Though not Prime, and maybe not even staring Samus.
Though, a revival of another action series could also happen.
It won't be anything obscure, and probably not a new IP.
Not saying any of this is 100%, just that it's more likely.
StreetsAhead
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Just a question, but did someone tell you what they're working on?
ShockingAlberto?
So why exactly is a sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns a bad thing? The game was one of the best games that Nintendo has published in the last 5 years. Let alone one of the highest selling Wii games of all time.
Im guessing it has nothing to do with the quality of games, and more to do with people wanting something more epic than Donkey Kong.
I don't care what Retro works on. I only expect excellence from them.
Im guessing it has nothing to do with the quality of games, and more to do with people wanting something more epic than Donkey Kong.
I don't care what Retro works on. I only expect excellence from them.
AceBandage
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No.
Just guesses based on information we have.
We can say with good certainty that they aren't making Zelda (Based on what Alberto has said, as well as the fact that we just got a Zelda game).
Retro has stated that they aren't working on a new DKCR.
They are hiring people with knowledge of large worlds, people who have created very advanced engines and people who have done more realistic and "mature" art.
So, we have a few choices. It's either Metroid in some form. Or another older action franchise.
GodfatherX
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i think they likely have multiple projects in development right now, not just one, so I can see another DKC as well as their next big thing
Ether_Snake
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Sounds like a Zelda reboot to me.
TheCongressman1
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You can't just rule out Zelda. It's got just as much chance as Metroid, or DK 64 Returns for that matter. We don't know anything right now, they could be doing anything, you know, aside from DKCR because they said so.
Sounds like a good fit for HD Zelda, don't you think?
I don't know man, I just don't see any evidence against them working on Zelda.
StreetsAhead
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Fair enough, just thought you sounded awfully certain. That DK quote is from a while ago and things can change, not that they necessarily have.
AceBandage
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Well, people with far more insight and connections than me have stated that is isn't Zelda, so I'm going with their call on this one.
While that's true, again, the people that they are hiring are not the people that would be likely for another DKCR. Not saying they won't make one, because they likely will.
Just that that isn't what these hirings are for.
While that's true, again, the people that they are hiring are not the people that would be likely for another DKCR. Not saying they won't make one, because they likely will.
Just that that isn't what these hirings are for.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Retro is actually working on the next Goonies game.
TheCongressman1
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That's different then, I missed that. Still, there's always the chance they don't have the right info, unless they are fairly close to Retro or Nintendo, even then... Tight lips are very common for Nintendo.
Am I allowed to ask who or is it a secret?
TheExplodingHead
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My hunch is that it is DKCR2, for launch window release. As well as hiring for the hopeful Metroid Prime 4 or Zelda game, even though I see Sakamoto rightfully getting another shot.
So it'll hopefully be new IP, Zelda, or another revival. So let's hope for keeping staff members around sake that Nintendo greenlights Zelda/MP4/New IP, otherwise they might end up selling Retro in 10 years. But right now if given full artistic (see DKCR concept art) and design freedom (as well as the ability to mix 3D and 2D gameplay on a HD machine) and take back the platformer crown from Meat Boy...it's gonna be DKCR2...and it's gonna be glorious if done right as a launch window game. In any case it'll be a showstopper visually.
So it'll hopefully be new IP, Zelda, or another revival. So let's hope for keeping staff members around sake that Nintendo greenlights Zelda/MP4/New IP, otherwise they might end up selling Retro in 10 years. But right now if given full artistic (see DKCR concept art) and design freedom (as well as the ability to mix 3D and 2D gameplay on a HD machine) and take back the platformer crown from Meat Boy...it's gonna be DKCR2...and it's gonna be glorious if done right as a launch window game. In any case it'll be a showstopper visually.
AceBandage
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They've posted in this thread. The most notable being ShockingAlberto. You can find his posts on the first page, in fact.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Everything he says is a lie though.
AceBandage
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