actually, reading that info on Windows 8, sounds like a big change in the underlying architecture. I hope it (a) doesn't fuck up compatibility with apps - they've said not, and (b) doesn't adversely affect performance. I really like how slick current windows phone 7 is with relatively low end hardware. Nice and efficient.
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frontieruk
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As Tango aims to lower hardware requirements for lower end hardware I really doubt they'd destroy that work with the architecture change.
brotkasten
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Not really news, but some confirmation.
http://www.theverge.com/microsoft/2012/2/3/2768279/skype-for-windows-phone-internal-testing
near field communication, i believe. you'll be able to tap your phone at registers to pay for shit, pass info over, etc.
Chiaroscuro
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Better buy a Nokia 900 in April or wait for the WP8 devices?
You mean Microsoft support for PC games made with XNA?
Nay, my girlfriend's Surround won't play music without freezing still.
HTC Titan 2 is what you meant to want.
:lol It is pretty sweet. I never saw your thread about it unfortunately.
The news on Apollo has me contemplating this as well. I want higher resolutions and dual core.
I think that's what I'm gonna do. I just got the Titan and wanted the Lumia 900 but the difference is mostly cosmetic. I think I'll wait and see what Nokia does when WP8 comes out. Higher resolution and larger storage space seems like something worth waiting for.
Vanillalite
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What gets me about this is by time they finally get Tango actually you know out is there really a need to scale down to lower end hardware? I mean mid ranged clocked single core chips and 512 RAM aren't exactly high end these days. Plus they've been in mass production for so many WP and Android devices over the past few years you'd think by volume and years available they should be pretty cheap to make.
Am I wrong in thinking are MS and Handset makers really going to save that much cash making even lower specs if Tango phones aren't hitting till say mid 2012 anyways?
There are probably areas of the world where cheaper phones are a must and carriers don't subsidize.
Vanillalite
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I get that part, but how much cheaper are "cheap" phones really going to be? Is 256 RAM really that much cheaper than 512 RAM these days? Is it really going to be that much cheaper to make a phone with a screen resolution LESS than 800 x 480 these days?
Stuff like this makes me wonder if by time Tango hits if lower end hardware is really going to be that much cheaper to manufacture. Just make smaller phones ie not HTC Titan size, and something smaller in the 3" range to save some on materials.
It would be like at this point saying you're just going to get 512 or 1 gig of RAM for your desktop or laptop. Are you really saving this metric ton of cash over 2 gigs of RAM these days anyways for low end desktops/laptops?
infinityBCRT
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Almost seems like it would make more sense to call Apollo "Windows 8 Phone" instead of "Windows Phone 8".
Steelyuhas
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Yeah actually you're right. I remember seeing 'the nest' thing and they tell you to use Rowi from Metrotwit, so for some reason I assumed that it was the same developers. It's not.
The Abominable Snowman
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Not sure how deep anyone cares about this, but apparently Nokia has boosted Windows Phone sales and have also grabbed about 50% of all Windows Phone shipments already
Canalys have released their 2011 and Q4 2011 estimates, and have for the first time placed a solid number on Nokia’s Windows Phone 7 shipments.
They note 2.5 million Windows Phones were shipped in Q4 2011, with 1.2 million of those being by Nokia, giving it 48% of the market, remarkably close to the 45% we estimated from other data.
They also demolish the notion that Nokia shipped more Meego powered Nokia N9’s that Lumia handsets, saying only 0.6 million of those handsets were shipped then, close to the 0.5 million estimated by AllaboutSymbian.com.
Canalys says about Nokia:
“Its first Windows Phone products, the Lumia 800 and 710, along with the recently announced Lumia 900 through AT&T in the US, have improved the outlook for Nokia,” said Canalys Senior Analyst, Tim Shepherd. “They are well-designed, competitive devices that demonstrate innovation is still alive within Nokia. But the battle is not over and it has huge challenges ahead. Nokia must continue to build out its Lumia portfolio with devices tailored to address all price points and all the markets in which it aims to compete. It must hasten its transition from Symbian to Windows Phone around the world and, with Microsoft, promote and generate excitement for the platform and new products. And it must succeed in attracting more developers to build high quality, locally relevant apps.”
In total Canalys estimates 6.8 million Windows Phones were shipped in 2011, a pretty low number. With 2.85 million handsets shipped at launch in Q4 2010, that bring a total of around 9.65 million handsets shipped so far.
In total Windows Phone holds 1.6% of the market. This should increase in 2012 as Nokia increases its roll-out and Windows Phone itself rolls out to more countries such as China in the middle to later part of the year.
http://wmpoweruser.com/canalys-says...rabbed-50-of-q4-2011-windows-phone-shipments/
http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/smart-phones-overtake-client-pcs-2011
Canalys have released their 2011 and Q4 2011 estimates, and have for the first time placed a solid number on Nokia’s Windows Phone 7 shipments.
They note 2.5 million Windows Phones were shipped in Q4 2011, with 1.2 million of those being by Nokia, giving it 48% of the market, remarkably close to the 45% we estimated from other data.
They also demolish the notion that Nokia shipped more Meego powered Nokia N9’s that Lumia handsets, saying only 0.6 million of those handsets were shipped then, close to the 0.5 million estimated by AllaboutSymbian.com.
Canalys says about Nokia:
“Its first Windows Phone products, the Lumia 800 and 710, along with the recently announced Lumia 900 through AT&T in the US, have improved the outlook for Nokia,” said Canalys Senior Analyst, Tim Shepherd. “They are well-designed, competitive devices that demonstrate innovation is still alive within Nokia. But the battle is not over and it has huge challenges ahead. Nokia must continue to build out its Lumia portfolio with devices tailored to address all price points and all the markets in which it aims to compete. It must hasten its transition from Symbian to Windows Phone around the world and, with Microsoft, promote and generate excitement for the platform and new products. And it must succeed in attracting more developers to build high quality, locally relevant apps.”
In total Canalys estimates 6.8 million Windows Phones were shipped in 2011, a pretty low number. With 2.85 million handsets shipped at launch in Q4 2010, that bring a total of around 9.65 million handsets shipped so far.
In total Windows Phone holds 1.6% of the market. This should increase in 2012 as Nokia increases its roll-out and Windows Phone itself rolls out to more countries such as China in the middle to later part of the year.
http://wmpoweruser.com/canalys-says...rabbed-50-of-q4-2011-windows-phone-shipments/
http://www.canalys.com/newsroom/smart-phones-overtake-client-pcs-2011
Seconded.
Yeah everyone I know loves putting shitty, busy photos as their home screen.
brotkasten
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Eh, in Windows 8 you can't even change the BG of the metro screen, why would you be able to do that on WP8?
Complex Shadow
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you can't? aww. w/e i am pretty sure someone will find a workaround.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
My coworker has an Android phone with an animated marijuana leaf as the live wallpaper. *sigh*
Complex Shadow
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life found a way.
ewwwwww
Open source your mind man.
Complex Shadow
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white BG with blue tiles looks awesome.
Vanillalite
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Kills the battery fast with a white background over a black one though on my Focus.
Complex Shadow
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doesn't anything with a white wallpaper. sucks though.
Joel Was Right
If you smell burning, it's probably the generators acting up. Report it anyway.
Carriers aren't even offering anything but the black Lumia 800. I'm a sad panda
Yeah, my better seems to drain a bit faster.
Joel Was Right
If you smell burning, it's probably the generators acting up. Report it anyway.
Hopefully we'll now have a decent Kindle app, like one that actually is able to make annotations/highlights. Meh, who am I kidding
Vanillalite
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I have mixed emotions about Mr. Watson leaving. On the one hand he's been at MS for years now, and everyone at sometime in their lives can feel the need for a change of scenery. I don't blame him, and Amazon is a great place to go work for.
On the other hand I can see people spinning this as Brandon Watson bailing especially since the job at Amazon doesn't exactly on the surface FEEL like he left to take a more higher up position else where. It feels very much sort of like a lateral move, and I've seen some comments even thinking it's a step downward.
I'm also mixed because I liked Mr. Watson a lot. I think he was really great in terms of getting the word out to developers and such. I'm much more favorable to Mr. Watson than I am towards Mr. Belfiore. That being said. I know some people think a change up for the platform might be a good thing, and maybe some new blood could help spark somethings.
IDK I'm much more saddened Brandon Watson is leaving where as I'm glad Stephen "Stepto" Toulouse is gone. Good riddance I say to that person.
On the other hand I can see people spinning this as Brandon Watson bailing especially since the job at Amazon doesn't exactly on the surface FEEL like he left to take a more higher up position else where. It feels very much sort of like a lateral move, and I've seen some comments even thinking it's a step downward.
I'm also mixed because I liked Mr. Watson a lot. I think he was really great in terms of getting the word out to developers and such. I'm much more favorable to Mr. Watson than I am towards Mr. Belfiore. That being said. I know some people think a change up for the platform might be a good thing, and maybe some new blood could help spark somethings.
IDK I'm much more saddened Brandon Watson is leaving where as I'm glad Stephen "Stepto" Toulouse is gone. Good riddance I say to that person.
brotkasten
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The rats are leaving the sinking ship. Andy Lees' already gone, Belfiore is next.
Windows 8 version.
While subtle, that would imply it can run Windows 8 SW which may not be the case.
antiquegamer
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There seems to be a lot of shake up and moving around at Microsoft during the last few months but that is common I suppose. What do you think of the rumor of Windows Phone on Amazon?
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