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Dota 2 Beta Thread: [Brewmaster]
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I would pick her if you didn't take her first every time!
Uh, finally.
If anyone cares two really good games could be coming up in the Premier League
First game: aL vs. MYM (picks are on, invoker got through bans!)
Second game: aL vs. Na'Vi (hope Na'Vi is bringing their a-game, would probably be an amazing game then)
The Premier League
edit: Just wanna mention that aL plays one of my absolute favorite tri-lanes; enchantress on an offensive tri-lane trying to be annoying in the woods and pushing, with a hard-carry and another support
If anyone cares two really good games could be coming up in the Premier League
First game: aL vs. MYM (picks are on, invoker got through bans!)
Second game: aL vs. Na'Vi (hope Na'Vi is bringing their a-game, would probably be an amazing game then)
The Premier League
edit: Just wanna mention that aL plays one of my absolute favorite tri-lanes; enchantress on an offensive tri-lane trying to be annoying in the woods and pushing, with a hard-carry and another support
One thing my friend likes to do with laning Axe is simply to cut their lane, letting your creeps assault tower directly and making it way harder for enemy carry to farm.
Ofc it takes a good ranged support and someone relatively harmless early game (Spectre) as the enemy, but that's how my friend do it
Ofc it takes a good ranged support and someone relatively harmless early game (Spectre) as the enemy, but that's how my friend do it
Hang around your carries and pretend to help them farm when you're really just mooching off of their exp.
Participate in team ganks and try not to get killed.
You'll naturally be underleveled, although you shouldn't be less than 3-4 levels behind your team.
Stay alive in Team Fights, if your dying early then your missing out on a lot of experience. Stack the ancients and stand there while your carry does them, farm the easy neutral camps, try to do safe ganks.
Most importantly is not dying early in team fights.
Usually you will be underleveled, just make sure its not by too much, and that you're still contributing to your team. Quick tip with CM: Frostbite, regardless of its level, lasts for 10 seconds on all neutrals but the big furbolg and the big satyr. So, if you ever find urself heading back to base to heal, or moving lanes, sneak in a frostbite and some autoattacks for quick gold+exp
Ditto.
Why am I watching this and why can't I stop.
(Are those padded bras or implants?)
The_Player
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Truly blessed by god.
Goddamn, just reminding me of how terribad axe is by comparison. Legionnaire was just godlike sometimes.
Cydonian__Knight
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They looked pretty strong early on, but by mid-game they just had no initiation. Lifestealer was doing so much damage too.
Procarbine
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Watched half of that video and didn't see sanjay charge once. Me, bzm, and kappy(I think?) did it first!
Blast Processing
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I played in a match with an Idle Thumb last night!
I won't out him because he was feeding the whole time, but we won anyway because there was another guy who, no shit, got like 40 kills all on his own.
I was playing Necrolyte, who has all of 2 activated abilities, including his ultimate.
I won't out him because he was feeding the whole time, but we won anyway because there was another guy who, no shit, got like 40 kills all on his own.
I was playing Necrolyte, who has all of 2 activated abilities, including his ultimate.
lol Best tri-lane ever.
This is laning mid, the end is really funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Zt...lay&list=UUcpu0nbmZKKkDMHpPldiAEw&playnext=11
No you did it after! also don't need charge when you had the tri-lane heroes we had. What heroes did you have?
No, he can't, at least not in a way that'll have Dark Seer getting any reasonable amount of farm. This is exactly why he stopped being used as a long lane solo against trilanes. Dark Seer actually has weak lane presence. The only time he can win or go even with lanes is against solos, people who don't know how to lane against him, or passive dual lanes (or, obviously, bad dual/tri lanes). Usually he can be annoying and Ion Shell his way to a few creeps for a Soul Ring, but any good dual lane will crush him.
Ion Shell is weak early. Don't be afraid of it at level 1 or 2, it does worse damage than Rot -- you aren't afraid of level 1 Rot, are you? -- and you can sit there and whack him out of lane if he tries to stand and fight. Yes, he's probably going to Surge away, but so what? The point is to beat him out of lane, not necessarily kill him. If he Ion Shells a creep, congratulations, he's pushing the lane and your support should be standing near him and attacking him. Just be careful when controlling runes, you don't want to get vacuumed onto a cliff.
The thing is that people are afraid of trading damage with Dark Seer in lane, even if it means they'll win. I remember doing a CM game with Gaf where I was laned against Archie and someone else with a solo Dark Seer. They were Slardar and Venomancer, and as soon as they bothered being aggressive, I was done for. They could have been more aggressive earlier, but they were either too afraid or didn't know they could beat me. As long as you don't have a passive dual lane like Spectre and Warlock, you'll win the lane. It's like a solo Beastmaster in side lane.
He's a good jungler, but putting something like Chen in his jungle will severely cripple him. Dual Laning Dark Seer is a waste of his levels, but I guess if you need to do it so he can get some farm, then it's okay.
Also sup 1.09
Could potentially save the gold for smoke and just slap ion shell onto a creep in the camp itself (that's possible, right? I know you can shell both friendly and enemy creeps in a lane wave).
If neutrals get damaged by an aoe source they cannot trace to a hero, they will run from it.
What I don't know is if that means the entire spawn will run or only the ones being damaged. If it's the latter, Ion shell would not be very useful for clearing neutral spawns.
What I don't know is if that means the entire spawn will run or only the ones being damaged. If it's the latter, Ion shell would not be very useful for clearing neutral spawns.
Risible
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I think I'm out.
Sartre said "Hell is other people." Sartre was obviously a Dota 2 player.
I want to love the game, I really do.
However, it is dependent on finding nine (nine!) other people who I want to play a game with. That means finding nine other people who won't ragequit, feed, or go afk. Nine other people who will work as a team. Nine other people who won't tell me about how much my mom loves to orally fellate hobos when I'm not doing well. Nine other people with enough of a sense of sportsmanship to not say "u guys fuking suck" while they're winning due to the fact that we had one guy disconnect and another AFK.
Unlike say TF2, Dota 2 is not a game that seems to be fun to play with pubbies.
So it appears that you either go hardcore and join a clan that can gather ten people together regularly, or you resign yourself not to play. I think I'm heading towards the latter
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Sartre said "Hell is other people." Sartre was obviously a Dota 2 player.
I want to love the game, I really do.
However, it is dependent on finding nine (nine!) other people who I want to play a game with. That means finding nine other people who won't ragequit, feed, or go afk. Nine other people who will work as a team. Nine other people who won't tell me about how much my mom loves to orally fellate hobos when I'm not doing well. Nine other people with enough of a sense of sportsmanship to not say "u guys fuking suck" while they're winning due to the fact that we had one guy disconnect and another AFK.
Unlike say TF2, Dota 2 is not a game that seems to be fun to play with pubbies.
So it appears that you either go hardcore and join a clan that can gather ten people together regularly, or you resign yourself not to play. I think I'm heading towards the latter
.Freakinchair
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I think I'm out.
Sartre said "Hell is other people." Sartre was obviously a Dota 2 player.
I want to love the game, I really do.
However, it is dependent on finding nine (nine!) other people who I want to play a game with. That means finding nine other people who won't ragequit, feed, or go afk. Nine other people who will work as a team. Nine other people who won't tell me about how much my mom loves to orally fellate hobos when I'm not doing well. Nine other people with enough of a sense of sportsmanship to not say "u guys fuking suck" while they're winning due to the fact that we had one guy disconnect and another AFK.
Unlike say TF2, Dota 2 is not a game that seems to be fun to play with pubbies.
So it appears that you either go hardcore and join a clan that can gather ten people together regularly, or you resign yourself not to play. I think I'm heading towards the latter
You mean 4 other people.
Togglesworlh
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I've gotten over not having concede option for the most part - largely because I very, rarely want to surrender even if I'm losing, and I can just have fun dicking around, if nothing else - but every once in a while I have one of those games where there's literally no chance of us coming back and I'm just not having fun and no one on my team is having fun and the other team is being dicks about it and there's no point in continuing...
It's stupid not to let me quit without penalty in such a situation.
Mhm, mhm.
It's stupid not to let me quit without penalty in such a situation.
Mhm, mhm.
Risible
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No, nine, because if the other team is acting the fool the game sucks. Straight up stomping another team is no fun.
From my experience, the game is difficult to get a grasp on, but boy is it addicting. I started off years ago just playing against AI bots and I highly recommend you do the same. There are a few pointers that people have posted here and there, I'd go more indepth but I'm working right now.
Looks like another wave of invites then.
Anyway just read the op and the guides/videos it links too. I only started in december but know pretty much all the basics. Had help from a friend though, but I read guides/watched tons of pro matches and spend a lot of time on the wiki and watching dotacinema intro guides for heroes.
Anyway just read the op and the guides/videos it links too. I only started in december but know pretty much all the basics. Had help from a friend though, but I read guides/watched tons of pro matches and spend a lot of time on the wiki and watching dotacinema intro guides for heroes.
ashbash159
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Woo!
Just got the beta and downloading now.
I have no idea how to play these types of games.
Just got the beta and downloading now.
I have no idea how to play these types of games.
Create a private game and fill it with bots. They will beat you hard, but you will learn. Matchmaking straight away is a bad idea. I myself spend 2 days with bots and only went matchmaking early because I was playing with a friend. But yeah see how it goes with bots for a while first.
MultiCore
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Don't listen to me but...
Don't start here. There's no tutorial, no hand holding, no help at all.
The assumption is that you've been playing DotA for years, and are ready to pwn noobs.
That said, perhaps getting on with fellow gaffers will ease your pain, if you find some who want to train you. We have some excellent players on GAF.
I played a few rounds of DotA for WC3, a couple of rounds of HoN, and 500+ games of LoL, so take my opinion for what it's worth.
(Edit: I also am in the DotA 2 beta, and have played about 5 games with friends.)
There are bots and the tutorials will eventually come.
IMO it does. I'm an old time player, been playing since it was Guinsoo instead of Icefrog the one maintaining the builds (around 2006 I believe) and while I'm no pro player by any means I have to say that I get matched regularly with players with similar skills. Currently I'm about 50 wins - 42 losses or so.
By the way I'm amazed at how so much people find this game that intimidating. back when I was a noob I don't recall being so overwhelmed. Perhaps the community was more forgiving back then.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, there were a lot less heroes/items too
The earlier you started, the easier it was to get into the game. Even low level games these days have denying and creep pulling, things unheard of in the days of 6.1x. I can't even imagine what the pub meta was like pre 5.84c.
True, game was so much different back then, IIRC the runes system were different, only 1 type of wards, naix had only passive skills and no flying couriers or dusts of appearance... Hell I remember when Lothar's was introduced, everyone was raving about it
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