Mass Effect 3 Demo Impressions [Online Open To All]

To be honest with you I'm expecting the choice to make as much of a difference as choosing whether to save or kill the council in ME1 made in ME2. If it actually makes a difference, I'll be grateful.
True. This is a strong possibility. I let the council die without much worry and nothing real came about it. I'll just continue my current (hand base over) save. I have yet to do any dlc though I have had them all for over a year now.
 
Not being able to holster thankfully doesnt have an adverse affect me, but it is unfortunate that there arent any options for PC players to alter their FOV. Sure you can change the Coalasced.ini but that screws up the convos and stuff. Maybe we'll magically get lucky with ME3.

It would be nice if devs didnt allow themselves to be held back by weaker consoles, but Im sure MS and Sony would not be very happy with them if the PC versions offered a great deal more than their console counter parts. At least theres a significant improvement in the visuals, but yeah PC exclusives would be nice since they have a lot more room to operate in.
 
While I hate being nitpicky, I don't like the new look of the conversation wheel. The whole blue-and-red scheme just doesn't sit right with me. :p

From what I've read elsewhere, I understand the demo has a simplified conversation mechanic. The full version will be more along the lines of what we've been accustomed to.

Also, both in ME1 and 2, certain conversation choices would be highlighted Red or Blue. This was to denote special conversation options that became available if your Paragon/Renegade score was high enough.
 
It would be nice if devs didnt allow themselves to be held back by weaker consoles, but Im sure MS and Sony would not be very happy with them if the PC versions offered a great deal more than their console counter parts. At least theres a significant improvement in the visuals, but yeah PC exclusives would be nice since they have a lot more room to operate in.

Last time BioWare really played to the strengths of the PC was in Dragon Age: Origins, with the top down view and just overall designing the game for PC first. Then of course, you have Dragon Age 2....and well...yeah.


In any event, I'll take a wait and see approach with ME3. I loved ME1, especially on the PC. ME2 was fine, but the actual PC port was very much lacking. Considering BioWare is once again doing the PC port, I don't have much hope they'll do much to make it feel native to the PC beyond what they did in ME2. The lack of shortcuts for things like the journal or having spacebar do everything and little things like not being able to use the mouse wheel in the menus was really annoying.

If I recall, I think I read/heard some interview where the devs were saying they narrowed the FOV or made the camera closer to Shep as a purposeful choice for ME3. It already seemed pretty close on ME2, so I'll be curious to see how it is with ME3 on PC.
 
Last time BioWare really played to the strengths of the PC was in Dragon Age: Origins, with the top down view and just overall designing the game for PC first. Then of course, you have Dragon Age 2....and well...yeah.


In any event, I'll take a wait and see approach with ME3. I loved ME1, especially on the PC. ME2 was fine, but the actual PC port was very much lacking. Considering BioWare is once again doing the PC port, I don't have much hope they'll do much to make it feel native to the PC beyond what they did in ME2. The lack of shortcuts for things like the journal or having spacebar do everything and little things like not being able to use the mouse wheel in the menus was really annoying.

If I recall, I think I read/heard some interview where the devs were saying they narrowed the FOV or made the camera closer to Shep as a purposeful choice for ME3. It already seemed pretty close on ME2, so I'll be curious to see how it is with ME3 on PC.
The VGA 2011 trailer was PC footage at a high resolution if you're curious as to how the FOV will look.

edit:lol forgot how cute garrus and vega look running away together from the hammer in sync with each other
 
Last time BioWare really played to the strengths of the PC was in Dragon Age: Origins, with the top down view and just overall designing the game for PC first. Then of course, you have Dragon Age 2....and well...yeah.


In any event, I'll take a wait and see approach with ME3. I loved ME1, especially on the PC. ME2 was fine, but the actual PC port was very much lacking. Considering BioWare is once again doing the PC port, I don't have much hope they'll do much to make it feel native to the PC beyond what they did in ME2. The lack of shortcuts for things like the journal or having spacebar do everything and little things like not being able to use the mouse wheel in the menus was really annoying.

If I recall, I think I read/heard some interview where the devs were saying they narrowed the FOV or made the camera closer to Shep as a purposeful choice for ME3. It already seemed pretty close on ME2, so I'll be curious to see how it is with ME3 on PC.

I'm expecting the port to be similar to ME2. Though they did say they're going to utilize more keys. Space bar shouldn't do everything in the game this time.
 
ME3 went gold. Grats to Bioware,


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This brings me great sadness :( I wasn't able to obtain one. Anyone kind enough to supply me with one? I would be very very very appreciating!
 
To whoever posted that Shepard's trial isn't in the game, I'm sad because there definitely was a tweet regarding the trial from either Casey Hudson or Mac Walters last year-there's a big "confirmed features" thread being updated with information from the dev twitters, and this entry exists:
The choices you make in the trial at the beginning of ME3 will set the tone for the future in the game.

I really, really hope that the intro in the demo isn't the full intro to the game.
 
To whoever posted that the trial isn't in the game, I'm sad because there definitely was a tweet regarding the trial from either Casey Hudson or Mac Walters last year-there's a big "confirmed features" thread being updated with information from the dev twitters, and this entry exists:
I really, really hope that the intro in the demo isn't the full intro to the game.
That would be cool it did happen, but could have this been just a reference to a new game/decisions of the last games? Not an import character.
 
To whoever posted that Shepard's trial isn't in the game, I'm sad because there definitely was a tweet regarding the trial from either Casey Hudson or Mac Walters last year-there's a big "confirmed features" thread being updated with information from the dev twitters, and this entry exists:


I really, really hope that the intro in the demo isn't the full intro to the game.

Well if it were me making this game, I would make the trial the Genesis of ME3. In it Shepard would defend his/her actions and in doing so allow players to choose the various outcome of the first and second game. With then those of us with save imports would get a much shorter trial that deals with only the most recent things like The Arrival DLC and stuff pertinent to the coming events in ME3.
 
To whoever posted that Shepard's trial isn't in the game, I'm sad because there definitely was a tweet regarding the trial from either Casey Hudson or Mac Walters last year-there's a big "confirmed features" thread being updated with information from the dev twitters, and this entry exists:


I really, really hope that the intro in the demo isn't the full intro to the game.

Yea, I think the demo is the full intro... :\
 
Well if it were me making this game, I would make the trial the Genesis of ME3. In it Shepard would defend his/her actions and in doing so allow players to choose the various outcome of the first and second game. With then those of us with save imports would get a much shorter trial that deals with only the most recent things like The Arrival DLC and stuff pertinent to the coming events in ME3.
It was one of the things I was excited for in the game, so if that's the case taking it out and making me pay for it stings :'(
 
Wow what the fuck....

Looks like we don't get to participate in Shepard's trial after all :-/


Was really looking forward to answering for everything I've done in the past games and let everyone have a piece of my mind. Freaking a...

Same here. This is shitty. Really disappointed, especially since I just finished Lair of the Shadow Broker and during one of the standoffs Shepard starts listing off the 'crimes' he's commited. I was hoping to revisit that.


I have passed the quiz and got 100% but when I go back to the homepage I don't get any redeem code.

I just get this:

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Ahhhh, so annoying!


If this is expertzone, I think it's because you haven't verified your account. I ran into the same issue and had to grab a code from a fellow gaffer here instead.
 
It was one of the things I was excited for in the game, so if that's the case taking it out and making me pay for it stings :'(

Well if thats how they handle the intro and making choices without an import save, I dont think theyll make people pay for it like Genesis. That was only payed cause of the fact that it didnt originally come with the PC or Xbox versions and so they had to port it over and they figured they might as well get some money out of it, especially since half of PC and Xbox players had imported a save and didnt necessarily need it, unlike PS3 players who couldnt import.

At the most a Genesis like trial intro should be say an Alliance Network bonus for all new purchases of ME3 like Zaeed was for Cerberus Network. Theres no reason to make it payed DLC for everyone, that would just be a dick move and blatant robbing of players for content that has no reason not to come standard with the game.
 
I thought I'd read people saying that the leaked demo/beta stuff a while back had more conversational/lore stuff than the current demo.

If they're cutting out minor talking spoilers to lay out an action heavy demo, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume there's a meatier trial/startup than just the demo's intro?
 
True. This is a strong possibility. I let the council die without much worry and nothing real came about it. I'll just continue my current (hand base over) save. I have yet to do any dlc though I have had them all for over a year now.

Bioware did say there are choices you made in ME1 that won't show up in ME2 but will in ME3. So I'd imagine something like sacrificing the council and allowing humans to dominate after will have repercussions in trying to rally the whole galaxy full of different species...
 
Bioware did say there are choices you made in ME1 that won't show up in ME2 but will in ME3. So I'd imagine something like sacrificing the council and allowing humans to dominate after will have repercussions in trying to rally the whole galaxy full of different species...

Didn't everyone hate the council and they had to flee into hiding if they were alive in ME2? I always kill them so I don't remember.
 
I thought I'd read people saying that the leaked demo/beta stuff a while back had more conversational/lore stuff than the current demo.

If they're cutting out minor talking spoilers to lay out an action heavy demo, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume there's a meatier trial/startup than just the demo's intro?

Well the leaked beta and demo intros are the exact same, its only the Sur'Kesh part that was trimmed down, but yeah theres a possibility for sure. Even the leaked beta was just a work in progress demo so who knows that even that was leaving out. And if the trial is like Genesis where it allows new players to make all the important choices of ME1/2 then it makes sense that it wasnt in the demo since it wouldnt serve much of a purpose but it could and would still lead perfectly well in to the intro we have seen.

The one thing about the intro we know of that make me think theres more to it is the how Shepard and Vega are already rather chummy and it seems like there should be more to that and it would be weird for BioWare to create a foundation for a relationship that we werent present for and allowed to have input on.
 
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Didn't everyone hate the council and they had to flee into hiding if they were alive in ME2? I always kill them so I don't remember.

The only time I ever killed the council.... I had to restart from an earlier save because I just couldn't deal with "... they've shut off communications...."
 
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Thank you, you are the man I got one really appreciate it.
 
That renegade ending for ME1, where it was dark lit in a back allay somewhere with Udina and Anderson scheming about taking over is way better than what ME2.

But no, we don't talk to the council much in 2, hopefully we will in 3 and Shepard will have a renegade interrupt for them.
 
I thought I'd read people saying that the leaked demo/beta stuff a while back had more conversational/lore stuff than the current demo.

If they're cutting out minor talking spoilers to lay out an action heavy demo, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume there's a meatier trial/startup than just the demo's intro?

The Sur'Kesh part had more, the Earth part was the same apart from some hilarious bugs. I could see them doing a small trial as a way for new players to select their story choices, but otherwise I think what's in the demo is all we are going to get. Would love to be proved wrong however.

The one thing about the intro we know of that make me think theres more to it is the how Shepard and Vega are already rather chummy and it seems like there should be more to that and it would be weird for BioWare to create a foundation for a relationship that we werent present for and allowed to have input on.

I daresay we are meant to judge from the comic that with Vega watching over Shepard, they get a bit chummy. Somehow giving some info on Shepard blowing up a relay and his relationship with Vega would be good though.

ME3 went gold. Grats to Bioware, hopefully they get a good response from the GAF crew.

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"Ah, yes. Gold. We have dismissed that claim."

To be serious, good to know. I assume the game is 2 discs again on 360?

Doesn't the cinematic trailer come out on Tuesday with the demo? Very excited for that.

Yeah, looking forward to that. Hopefully not full of spoilers, but a glimpse of Tali or Thane would be sweet.
 
Nice, I already have the demo, but that is quite the gesture.


And as for the Wrex/Wreav thing, no it wasn't confirmed, but the leaked demo with Wreav there had the exact voice/lines as the one in the demo.
 
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Got one too. Much thanks!
 
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