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The parent company is based in China and not only do they run a manga website they have one for anime and games I believe. Then again I don't think this matters that much if they have servers hosted in the US since they can probably shut them down on that ground.

If it required a letter or just asking some dept. to shut them down, they wouldn't exist in the first place. The kind of thing you're talking about is SOPA-level shit.
 
Just listened to the OP podcast that had a translator from Mangastream and a VIZ translator (they're both friendly, no bad blood, the VIZ guy is just an OP translator/freelancer) and it's pretty interesting.

That said, they brought up the point that there were people promoting Mangastream on the Shonen Jump Alpha site saying something equivalent to "why pay for this and be behind when you can get the latest here for free". Never knew that, and wow.
 
Just listened to the OP podcast that had a translator from Mangastream and a VIZ translator (they're both friendly, no bad blood, the VIZ guy is just an OP translator/freelancer) and it's pretty interesting.

That said, they brought up the point that there were people promoting Mangastream on the Shonen Jump Alpha site saying something equivalent to "why pay for this and be behind when you can get the latest here for free". Never knew that, and wow.
It doesn't really change the big picture but I guess they panicked a bit after something like that. Nevertheless they went the wrong way about dealing with it.

Anything else worth mentioning from the podcast?

Bakuman

@Stat: mass public freak-out at the relationship being discovered
 
The hilarious part about these seiyu-boyfriend scandals is that even pre-teen girls into boy bands like NSYNC and Justin Beiber don't freak out when the object has a significant other.

This is one of those things that don't actually translate well to US audiences, although maybe they can just call themselves Mashiro and Takagi now instead of that dumb pseudonym.
 
It doesn't really change the big picture but I guess they panicked a bit after something like that. Nevertheless they went the wrong way about dealing with it.

Anything else worth mentioning from the podcast?

Bakuman

@Stat: mass public freak-out at the relationship being discovered

The VIZ guy was saying that there are people at VIZ that monitor all these scanlation sites. They do this for a few reasons, but one is to gauge interest of which series are popular. The specific talk about what happened is only about an hour of the podcast starting around ~59:00.

It's not a bad listen if you have nothing to do. However, both parties admit to not being directly involved with any of this and are just kind of on the side of what's really going on. You do get a good idea of why SJA is two weeks behind (in theory), dealings with jmanga, and whatnot as well.
 
The VIZ guy was saying that there are people at VIZ that monitor all these scanlation sites. They do this for a few reasons, but one is to gauge interest of which series are popular. The specific talk about what happened is only about an hour of the podcast starting around ~59:00.

I had a feeling they were doing that when I saw Psyren in Americas' Shonen Jump...

Is this podcast on youtube?
 
The VIZ guy was saying that there are people at VIZ that monitor all these scanlation sites. They do this for a few reasons, but one is to gauge interest of which series are popular. The specific talk about what happened is only about an hour of the podcast starting around ~59:00.

It's not a bad listen if you have nothing to do. However, both parties admit to not being directly involved with any of this and are just kind of on the side of what's really going on. You do get a good idea of why SJA is two weeks behind (in theory), dealings with jmanga, and whatnot as well.
Japan needs to get on board with what it takes to make money. The fact is, all the stuff they're whining about is ancilllary to the profits they're missing out on.
 
If viz could have translated chapters out before the scanlators get their raws, I would think readers would flock to them, since speed seems to be a big factor especially with these shonen manga. It really is a wasted opportunity for Jump not to be doing that with Viz.
 
If viz could have translated chapters out before the scanlators get their raws, I would think readers would flock to them, since speed seems to be a big factor especially with these shonen manga. It really is a wasted opportunity for Jump not to be doing that with Viz.

Never gonna happen.

Snakeyes said:
I don't understand what the big deal is. Japanese idols have to remain virgins until marriage?
idol culture (tm)

Basically the nerds feel possessive of their chosen object of worship, and when that object veers from some idealized path of Purity and Virginity, shit hits the fan.
 
RRR 70-71

Asahina reminds me of Hawk from Ippo. I'm going to say he wins the title and Iwamaki challenges him for it. I do wonder how much ground it can cover with only 30 or so chapters left though.
 
The earliest they could get them out is a few days after MangaStream did. The chapters we read on a Wednesday aren't out in Japan until the following Monday

Manuscripts are available weeks before they're published... but yeah, that time difference is the real killer here, although to my mind, it would be vastly preferable to have an english version out early and be making money, as opposed to having an english version out early and not be making money.


Just look at the whole "scandal" with Aya Hirano.
 
If viz could have translated chapters out before the scanlators get their raws, I would think readers would flock to them, since speed seems to be a big factor especially with these shonen manga. It really is a wasted opportunity for Jump not to be doing that with Viz.

I don't even see how that is possible.
 
Manuscripts are available weeks before they're published... but yeah, that time difference is the real killer here, although to my mind, it would be vastly preferable to have an english version out early and be making money, as opposed to having an english version out early and not be making money.

Anime industry worries about reverse-importing, it's the same thing here. No publisher wants the shit in their rags show up online a week before they hit the bookshelves.

Alpha doesn't interest me at all, but I can understand the reasoning behind it.
 
Anime industry worries about reverse-importing, it's the same thing here. No publisher wants the shit in their rags show up online a week before they hit the bookshelves.

Alpha doesn't interest me at all, but I can understand the reasoning behind it.

I doubt there's much of a reverse-scanlation scene, although I could be wrong. Of course, this will never happen, but I would like to see improvement on the availability/ease of access to official material.
 
I doubt there's much of a reverse-scanlation scene, although I could be wrong. Of course, this will never happen, but I would like to see improvement on the availability/ease of access to official material.

Not reverse-scanlation, since Japanese readers could just read the 'raws.' It's been a while but the interview between Ken "I love red haired tsundere characters who are full of shit and aren't worth the paper they're drawn on so I'll end a series out of nowhere in order to gratify my almost incestuous feelings for my own character" Akamatsu and Kentaro "Much Better Than Akamatsu" Takekuma had something about that, iirc.
 
RRR 70-71

Asahina reminds me of Hawk from Ippo. I'm going to say he wins the title and Iwamaki challenges him for it. I do wonder how much ground it can cover with only 30 or so chapters left though.

Oh...OH! It finished already? :(

This is sad news I love this series.
 
Bakuman

This arc is going to end with them going public with their relationship and winning back her fans by being brave enough to stand up to the rumors or some other cliche.
 
Some of y'all are really impatient. Wanting an "official" version to come out before its even published? C'mon, son.
Not reverse-scanlation, since Japanese readers could just read the 'raws.' It's been a while but the interview between Ken "I love red haired tsundere characters who are full of shit and aren't worth the paper they're drawn on so I'll end a series out of nowhere in order to gratify my almost incestuous feelings for my own character" Akamatsu and Kentaro "Much Better Than Akamatsu" Takekuma had something about that, iirc.

You don't sound bitter at all.
 
We get our raws five days before the Japanese street date.

I was more referring to the fact that technically speaking, there's nothing impossible about giving Viz manuscripts early. I know that raws come out days before the magazines go on sale.
Some of y'all are really impatient. Wanting an "official" version to come out before its even published? C'mon, son.


You don't sound bitter at all.

I think you're misunderstanding me, it's not that I want super early manga, I just would like the actual creators/licensors to more effectively distribute stuff to foreign audiences.
 
Bakuman 166:

I was worried about this boyfriend reveal stopping the anime at first, but it is obvious it won't. Especially if all the jump mangaka rally behind Saiko and Shujin.

Not really about the chapter, but why are some posters acting like the idol worship shown in this chapter is exclusive to Japan? Heck, just look at young pop music fans.
 
Bakuman

This arc is going to end with them going public with their relationship and winning back her fans by being brave enough to stand up to the rumors or some other cliche.
He theoretically could do some kind of social commentary on how dumb this creepy Idol Worship is, but my guess is they won't and will just resolve the conflict within those confines.


Bakuman 166:

I was worried about this boyfriend reveal stopping the anime at first, but it is obvious it won't. Especially if all the jump mangaka rally behind Saiko and Shujin.

Not really about the chapter, but why are some posters acting like the idol worship shown in this chapter is exclusive to Japan? Heck, just look at young pop music fans.
US Pop music fans, even pre-teen girls, are nothing like that. Timberlake was with Britney Spears while he was still a pre-teen idol, and Bieber has had several girlfriends. It isn't really comparable at all.
 
Manuscripts are available weeks before they're published... but yeah, that time difference is the real killer here, although to my mind, it would be vastly preferable to have an english version out early and be making money, as opposed to having an english version out early and not be making money.



Just look at the whole "scandal" with Aya Hirano.

Plus the incident with the manga Kannagi (where IIRC the author states that the love interest of the MC had a previous relationship and hints that she's not a virgin)
 
Wait a minute... so we technically read the newest chapters from the big 3 before the average Joe picks up the latest issue of WSJ? I always thought it comes in japan someone picks up a magazine and scan and translate from there
 
Bakuman 166:

I was worried about this boyfriend reveal stopping the anime at first, but it is obvious it won't. Especially if all the jump mangaka rally behind Saiko and Shujin.

Not really about the chapter, but why are some posters acting like the idol worship shown in this chapter is exclusive to Japan? Heck, just look at young pop music fans.

I really don't see how the two compare. Asking about pop stars girlfriends/boyfriends seem like a normal thing here.
 
Wait a minute... so we technically read the newest chapters from the big 3 before the average Joe picks up the latest issue of WSJ? I always thought it comes in japan someone picks up a magazine and scan and translate from there

Yes, scanlated chapters are available several days before the actual magazines go on sale.

Of course, that doesn't apply to most series that aren't the most popular shounens, those are done by magazine/volume scans.
 
Wait a minute... so we technically read the newest chapters from the big 3 before the average Joe picks up the latest issue of WSJ? I always thought it comes in japan someone picks up a magazine and scan and translate from there

For some series the latter happens but with the the Big 3 and others those are basically "hot of the press"
 
wait a minute, I'm kinda late to the party on all this and not very knowledgeable on how manga distribution actually works...

Are we no longer going to get the big 3 on Wednesdays?
 
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