RuinerPrime
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Now i just gotta get Marvel 3 & my 32gb card.
And one of these vita handhelds...
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Now i just gotta get Marvel 3 & my 32gb card.
And one of these vita handhelds...
The day I get to PC game on a 23 inch OLED monitor is the day that....I dont even know. Itll be awesome.
Shining Sunshine
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Futureshop told me they're selling games now and the console tomorrow.
Bestbuy told me they're selling the console tomorrow and the games next week.
What the hell is going on?
The Elite
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I need the PSN store to update early today. If third parties are offering discounts I'm going to finagle a couple of PSN cards out of EB with my store credit and some trades. Then I'll grab Marvel vs. Capcom/Lumines as DD.
Owned by the same company but they like to do things very differently.
Castor Krieg
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The game is straightforward and has no online play. Play for a week, sell, buy Lumines.
That's certainly true I'm sure. To be clear, I'm not shitting on the PSV, I'm excited about it, I'm buying one without doubt, and for it's price, I think it's a very impressive piece of hardware. I just wasn't blown away by the screen. That's probably a mixture of a few things, having seen great small screens before (when I saw the iPhone 4, I hadn't), and the obscene amount of hype about it.
I think it's a much needed upgrade though, the 3DS and PSP screens are both awful.
The_Darkest_Red
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Yep. If you separate yourself from the day one hype it's easy to recognize that these games will probably plummet in price soon. I love Lumines, I bought the first one as soon as it hit the PSP, but there is no way I'm paying $40 for the Vita version when it is almost guaranteed to be at least $15-$20 cheaper within a few weeks. I'd also love Rayman on the Vita even though I own the PS3 version, but the story is the same with that game.
Ken Masters
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when I do eventually get a Vita, Lumines is day1, but I want it as a DL game but I know its going to drop in price very fast for the physical copy
chickdigger802
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AFter reading up the engadget review... the ease of scratch for the device is a bit worry some.
Does the system have at least 1 year of limited warranty? How good is sony at replacing and fixing systems at a speedy manner?
Does the system have at least 1 year of limited warranty? How good is sony at replacing and fixing systems at a speedy manner?
Which is funny, I remember thinking how amazing the PSP's screen was when I got it.
Wow, was that really almost 7 years ago?
Baconsammy
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Sony's made some stupid decisions the past 5-6 years, but they're not dumb enough to fragment their gamers to that degree.
The_Darkest_Red
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The first time I picked up a PSP I was absolutely amazed. It was incredible for its time!
The PSP screen really was amazing when it was released, I remember it wowing even non-gamers. There were very few comparable CE devices out there. How time flies!
I can not believe how frustrating it is to hear that Modnation devs have failed twice on this. (bad framerate and load times) It's a frikkin racer! Those two things should be priority number one and two on your list. The frustrating part is that I really think they have a really awesome idea of custom tracks, cars and racers.
If they don't learn this by the time Little Big Racer comes out....
For gaming, it's not nicer at all.
OLED is faster and has a much better contrast ratio. The resolution is nearly the same, but the larger Vita screen has a lower pixel density as a result.
Zoe
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The PS3 itself doesn't have the RAM to spare to play Skyrim properly. There's no way there'd be extra RAM on top of that to stream it to the Vita :lol
The Elite
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Seven years ago the PSP screen was awesome.
Could someone please explain to me how 3G gaming works, I was always under the impression that it was just some high end wireless network. Now I'm seeing people talking about 3G games, what exactly outside of wireless connectivity can 3G games offer you that a non 3G game can't?
hahahahaha
oh boy
/looks at all the years of ad-hoc party he missed out on because he bought a 20gig launch ps3 instead of a 60gig
Also FF Type 0 only has multiplayer on 2000/3000/Go models. 1000 can't do multi
It's rare, but it does happen where you get screwed for not having bought the right iteration of the system.
What are the response times?
Man-is-Obsolete
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That is my take on it. In a little over a month's time Rayman Origins on PS3 and 360 dropped to $30 and even $20 at Toys R Us, so it is hard to buy in at full price on these games.
Now it kinda looks like Sony was smart by going ahead with LBP Karting and hopefully MM makes it. I trust those guys to get the basics right
practically 0
I don't sell my games.
I'm a bit of a personal collector I guess (it's sentimental - I don't care about monetary value).
I like to look at my game library and just reminisce about the experiences as I read the titles and stuff.
I've been doing this and watching my library slowly grow for like 20 years. I don't think I will ever be comfortable selling games.
OLED response times are generally below 0.01 ms. Instant, for all intents and purposes.
What is it for the iPhone?
Supporting 3G gaming does not mean fragmenting their user base. It can be an optional feature. I know a few Vita games are already doing that. The developers totally should explore that angle more. Even if you only have a WiFi Vita, you can always get a 3G/4G MiFi device later, tether to your cell, or stick to Hotspot gaming.
I don't know the exact values, but no LCD technology, particularly not IPS, gets below 10 ms for at least some color transitions. So it's a factor 1000 difference. (Not that this means much, anything below 1 ms would be fine)
More importantly, to get acceptable image response, LCD screens usually implement some type of RTC/overdrive logic. This increases input lag, and is completely unnecessary on OLED.
Baconsammy
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hahahahaha
oh boy
/looks at all the years of ad-hoc party he missed out on because he bought a 20gig launch ps3 instead of a 60gig
Also FF Type 0 only has multiplayer on 2000/3000/Go models. 1000 can't do multi
It's rare, but it does happen where you get screwed for not having bought the right iteration of the system.
How many games were unplayable because you bought the "wrong" PS3? Any game that comes out on the Vita that requires 3G or the GPS to work is going to fail and fail hard, which is why I don't think anyone will be stupid enough to do it. Except maybe an app or a really cheap downloadable title, but if that's what you want you have so many better options on smartphones.
TheExecutive
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I will leave the childish comment alone but I held my iphone 4s up to the vita and I have to say the vita "looks" better to me glass or not.
craigrushforth
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I just received confirmation that my First Edition Bundle has shipped from ebgames.ca (Gamestop Canada)
It'll probably arrive Thursday or Friday.
It'll probably arrive Thursday or Friday.
Shining Sunshine
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Wi-Fi does have triangulation.
Anyways, all three companies pretty much did it with the motion controls. Motion+, Kinect, and Move.
This is the first time I've made a top 10 post count list thingy in a topic.
So we're talking about a 9ms advantage? It's nice to have that, but every 30fps game has a theoretical pipeline limit of 33ms anyway, then factoring in input lag too, I don't think it'd make some huge difference to my play experience. I've never felt an iPhone didn't have a crisp response personally.
It almost doesn't matter what the exact number is as it is much slower than OLED. LCD screens are slower across the board, that's all there is to it.
OLED can display near perfect black, unlike all LCDs.
OLED technology is flat out better than LCD across the board which is precisely why so many of us are excited about TVs using such panels. I've been hanging onto my Kuro for years waiting for a suitable replacement and OLED might be the only thing that can deliver. LCDs simply don't compare.
The iPhone screen looks great in most cases due to its high pixel density (as a result of its smaller size). In motion, however, there is still plenty of blurring that is absent on an OLED screen.
The mistake you're making here is the assumption that this has anything to do with Vita. We're arguing about display tech. OLED >>>>>>>>> LCD
Just because you don't notice or don't care about those differences doesn't mean they don't exist. LCDs STILL suffer from awful ghosting and smearing. It's been reduced significantly but it's still there. Go back to a CRT and you'll remember what motion USED to look like. OLED is much closer to plasma and even CRT than LCD in that regard. Even 30 fps stuff benefits from this.
The super high contrast ratio is even more important to me as LCDs just can't handle dark material well.
Baconsammy
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How many third parties were stupid enough to limit their games to Motion+? There's a reason that peripheral failed and Kinect did not. You have to sell a ton of them to make it more palatable to devs to make something for it. It's just a guess, but I'm assuming Sony is forcing the 3G on early adopters because it's the version most people would walk across the street to avoid. Everyone's moving to 4G (even iPad 3 next month is), and here comes Sony with their 3G option. Come on, Sony.
Glorious Ownage
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I bought it anyways. For $20 it's worth a shot since I loved it on the ps3. Load times be damned.
I find most people complaining about frame rate almost always blow it out of proportion (in my opinion!) so I'm sure I'll enjoy it. And heck they may even release a patch with some improvements.
Dog Problems
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I'm going to be downloading Vita and PSP games to my PS3 today so they'll be ready for tomorrow.
graywolf323
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yay
edit: wonder how many of Marty Chinn's posts were to tell people they were stupid to buy the First Edition bundle, etc.
It DOES require people with a Vita to be nearby, yes? Cuz I have a feeling I'm not going to run into anyone else with one. :\
I added a part about response time compensation (RTC). Beyond input lag, that can also result in reverse ghosting, which I hate with the fury of a thousand suns.
I guess it doesn't matter that much to most people, but, as a bit of a display nut, (non-pentile) OLED is just a dream come true. After 20 years we finally have a portable display tech that can keep up with and even surpass CRT for gaming.
This is what I'm talking about. All hail our new OLED overlords, and give me that 120Hz OLED monitor already.
Does anyone know if you partially pay for your Vita preorder with trade in credit, if it instantly gets refunded to you if you cancel your pre-order?
I ended up doing a second trade in batch so I want to cancel my 3G Launch Bundle and reorder it to include the extra $50 in credit I'm about to get.
I ended up doing a second trade in batch so I want to cancel my 3G Launch Bundle and reorder it to include the extra $50 in credit I'm about to get.
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