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It DOES require people with a Vita to be nearby, yes? Cuz I have a feeling I'm not going to run into anyone else with one. :\

I feel the same way. But according to Engadget the radius is between 2 - 4.5 miles depending on player density. Should be interesting to see if anyone in my area is playing
 
I added a part about response time compensation (RTC). Beyond input lag, that can also result in reverse ghosting, which I hate with the fury of a thousand suns.

I guess it doesn't matter that much to most people, but, as a bit of a display nut, (non-pentile) OLED is just a dream come true. After 20 years we finally have a portable display tech that can keep up with and even surpass CRT for gaming.
Yes, thank you! Fellow display snobs unite!

For the moment I rely on my 2nd gen Pioneer Kuro and Sony OLED HMD to provide the picture I desire (as well as a Sony CRT for retro systems). Can't wait for an actual OLED TV of a reasonable size. I've been waiting so long.

Fuck LCDs.

Yes times a million. OLED is a HUGE step up over LCD.

LCDs CAN look nice in many situations, of course, but throw any challenging material at them and they fall apart. I absolutely detest LCD technology.
 
Does anyone know if you partially pay for your Vita preorder with trade in credit, if it instantly gets refunded to you if you cancel your pre-order?

I ended up doing a second trade in batch so I want to cancel my 3G Launch Bundle and reorder it to include the extra $50 in credit I'm about to get.

If you mean from Amazon, yes. Once you cancel an order that was made with credit it immediately goes back into your account.
 
Final Launch Order

3G + Pre Order Pack
4gb Mem (Free)
Uncharted (Free)
WipEout 2048 (Free with Vodafone Top Up)
Ridge Racer (The free DLC sold me)
Shinobido 2 (This is a total risk for me. Know nothing, hope I enjoy it)
Hori Silicone Gel Protector
2 Pack Screen Protector
16gb Mem


I am excite! The first of my mail order items has shipped today, my 16gb mem card from Planet Axle. Hori Gel Protector was from Ebay and is already in transit. This is the first time in my life I have pre ordered a console of any kind in my 30 odd years of gaming. I feel like a kid at Xmas.
 
I don't see how some of you can be so stingy when it comes to saving what's going to be $10 at most in a month or two for Lumines, if there's any company that deserves that little bit of extra money it's Q.
 
Yes, thank you! Fellow display snobs unite!

For the moment I rely on my 2nd gen Pioneer Kuro and Sony OLED HMD to provide the picture I desire (as well as a Sony CRT for retro systems). Can't wait for an actual OLED TV of a reasonable size. I've been waiting so long.
100% agreed. I mostly use a 120Hz DLP projector. The black level sucks, but overall it's the best option for big screen gaming I have available.

LCDs CAN look nice in many situations, of course, but throw any challenging material at them and they fall apart. I absolutely detest LCD technology.
Let's have a LCD hate party! We'll bathe in plasma and bask in cathode rays.
 
Yes times a million. OLED is a HUGE step up over LCD.

LCDs CAN look nice in many situations, of course, but throw any challenging material at them and they fall apart. I absolutely detest LCD technology.
Well all I can say is, despite what you consider a huge step up, I see a side step, maybe a step down. If I could choose higher DPI, Glass and LCD, or lower DPI, Plastic and OLED, I'd choose the former.

Also, the 'really?' didn't mean what you thought it did.
 
I've seen the Vita screen next to an S2 and iPhone 4S. The Vita screen definitely pops more. 4S has a higher PPI but the blacks are greyish and the colors aren't as vivid. S2 comes closer but the Vita screen looked brighter. Also, the S2 has a very bad blueish tint when viewed from different angles. Vita has this aswell but less apparent.
 
I don't see how some of you can be so stingy when it comes to saving what's going to be $10 at most in a month or two for Lumines, if there's any company that deserves that little bit of extra money it's Q.
You might be right but I honestly think $40 is over-priced for the game based on what I've seen. If it was $30 at launch I would probably bite.
 
Well all I can say is, despite what you consider a huge step up, I see a side step, maybe a step down. If I could choose higher DPI, Glass and LCD, or lower DPI, Plastic and OLED, I'd choose the former.

Also, the 'really?' didn't mean what you thought it did.
Higher PPI wouldn't make any sense on Vita. Developers have a hard time hitting their desired fidelity at native res as is.

And I don't really see the huge deal with glass vs. plastics. As long as the optical and mechanical characteristics are fine it doesn't matter. On the other hand, OLED is just objectively superior as a display technology in pretty much every single way.
 
I need a life.
Or a Vita.

For the discussion above. This image clearly shows an important difference between LCD and OLED screens. Ghosting gets really apparent in fast games.

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3G or Wifi Vita? I'll be interested to see how well the Wifi version finds location data.
I added a link to Skyhook which is used for registering access points for Wi-Fi Vitas to the OP earlier today.
 
The PSP is built like a rock. It's used for holding tech manual and training material in the military. I read that during evaluation, a Sony guy flung his PSP at the wall, and it held up. ^_^

My daughter threw her PSP-1001 at her brother when he was bugging her about not being able to clear some part of LocoRoco a few years back... It missed him, dented the wall and hit the floor. The UMD stopped working for a while, and I CFW'd it and would put ripped ISOs of games we had on her memory stick... then she dropped it again about three years ago and the UMD started working... She's still using that same PSP; it looks like it's been dragged through a warzone, but it still works great!
 
Could someone please explain to me how 3G gaming works, I was always under the impression that it was just some high end wireless network. Now I'm seeing people talking about 3G games, what exactly outside of wireless connectivity can 3G games offer you that a non 3G game can't?

There are 2 aspects to so-called 3G gaming. People usually lump GPS with 3G but they are different.

1) 3G connectivity (requires a 3G dataplan) simply means that your Vita is connected to the Internet at all times. So you can presumably play some games while on the go, or at least update game stats on-the-fly. Because of 3G network's high latency, the games need to be designed specifically to support 3G. A few games like Dynasty Warrior 7, Ridge Racer (Vita) support 3G game mode(s), but these modes can also be played when connected to WiFi.

2) GPS allows Vita to detect your current position (accurately). If you have a WiFi Vita, your position can also be estimated as long as you're connected to a Hotspot. Google Maps and Near are 2 good examples here.

Gust claimed that their new game (Ciel No Surge) is headed for Vita because of 3G. So presumably they will use one or both of the features above. They haven't revealed any details yet.
 
Higher PPI wouldn't make any sense on Vita. Developers have a hard time hitting their desired fidelity at native res as is.
That's certainly a good argument, for practical terms. I was talking more wish list terms. I assume you could make the OLED higher PPI anyway, and have glass, then I wouldn't have any reason to favor the iPhone screen at all, I'd love that. Maybe PSV-2000 will do it.
 
The 4S has higher DPI and brightness. It's quite easy to tell at first glance. But the larger Vita screen is close. I could read the small words on it just fine. I wouldn't be bothered about the differences. Gorilla Glass is nice though.




I was more wow'ed by the first PSP Sharp screen years ago. It was rare to have such a big and colorful screen at that price.

The last time I was wowed by a display tech was the 3D visual from HMZ-T1. The effect was stunning (The way 3D *should* be presented) even though the harness took time to get used to in the demo room.

My next display tech wow moment will probably be the transparent, flexible (roll-up, foldable) color screens.

How much higher dpi is it? Is it that noticeable? I have a 4s and have played with the Vita for a bit and even though the dpi may be the different and possibly higher brightness, the colors are what does it for me and OLED does that hands down. The gorilla glass helps with the IQ a bit but it's mainly for protector. IF GG was present in the Vita it would have cost more, people are complain at the price as it is already.

I tried the HMZ-T1, I liked the concept of it but I felt it a bit underwhelming :(
 
Well all I can say is, despite what you consider a huge step up, I see a side step, maybe a step down. If I could choose higher DPI, Glass and LCD, or lower DPI, Plastic and OLED, I'd choose the former.

Also, the 'really?' didn't mean what you thought it did.
I think you're using the wrong metrics to judge this. If you look at a bright image on an LCD, it's going to look good. LCDs CAN produce very nice imagery when displaying specific content.

The problem is that they simply are not well suited to all situations. Watching a dark film on an LCD is awful, for instance. Playing a 60 fps game on an LCD is also awful.

If you're throwing around lower framerate super colorful imagery without a lot of deep contrast it'll look great and the higher pixel density + glass screen could potentially produce a nicer image.

If you were here right now I could show you a lot of side by side comment that would change your mind, I'm sure of it. I've managed to turn many a friend away from buying an LCD by simply showing them the type of content that LCDs cannot handle.

The Vita itself is not necessary the best foot forward for OLED technology due to its plastic screen, but most of its benefits still shine through. A proper OLED TV will slaughter any and every LCD ever made.

Of course, one issue Apple is facing in regards to PPI is the fact that people are calling for a larger iPhone. If they bump up the size of the phone they'll have to keep 960x640 as the resolution for compatibility purposes. The result would be a decrease in pixel density.

PSV is 960x544, by the way, which is due to its 16:9 aspect ratio (the iPhone is narrower hence the extra pixels).
 
Regarding the screen differences and such, Id actually benefit from playing a PSP game on the Vita because of the lack of ghosting, etc? Im currently rolling through LoH:TiTS and Im panning the camera constantly in that game. It looks so bad sometimes that the screen almost becomes this blur ugly blur.

If I dont beat this game in the next week, Im probably going to buy digital and finish up on the Vita.
 
The Vita itself is not necessary the best foot forward for OLED technology due to its plastic screen, but most of its benefits still shine through. A proper OLED TV will slaughter any and every LCD ever made.
I am not talking about OLED versus LCD as technologies, I'm talking about the PSV's screen, versus the iPhone's screen. Those two specific instances of those technologies.

EDIT: archnemesis' post is pretty cool.
 
so besides toys r us are there any deals that we know about yet? there are still a couple of games i would like to get but im going to wait for some kind of deal for them
 
I have like 15 psp games on psn, cant wait to see them on this fantasic screen. I also have about 24 ps1 games....any word on when the support patch for that is coming?
 
I am not talking about OLED versus LCD as technologies, I'm talking about the PSV's screen, versus the iPhone's screen. Those two specific instances of those technologies.
Well, in that case, I still prefer the Vita's OLED. The faster response time + insane contrast ratio (better than any other display ever made) far outweigh a slightly higher pixel density.

The iPhone screen blurs too much in motion for fast games and cannot support the deep contrast I desire. It suffers from the same problems as any other LCD with its only trick being the super high DPI.

Again, for me, contrast ratio + speed >>>>>> DPI

Now, if we were talking about a really LOW DPI like the 3DS I would take the iPhone LCD but the Vita is very close to it.
 
That's certainly a good argument, for practical terms. I was talking more wish list terms. I assume you could make the OLED higher PPI anyway, and have glass, then I wouldn't have any reason to favor the iPhone screen at all, I'd love that. Maybe PSV-2000 will do it.
I don't think they'll ever change the display res in a revision, unless the API really abstracts te whole framebuffer away from the devs that would be hard to make compatible with existing games. And ultra high PPI for OLED is currently a bit hard to manufacture, but that will probably not be an issue forever.

Still, generally I don't see the point of PPI beyond ~200 for almost all purposes except reading lots of text. It's nice to have, but contrast, responsiveness and color are of much higher priority for me.
 
I thought the GPS in the 3G version was used to find location data and then the 3G was used to download/upload gifts.

I'm wondering what methods, other than Skyhook, the Wifi version uses to determine the user's location.

Well, I mean "near" as in finding other nearby Vita's. Maybe they all rely on a "near" server to send each other information via 3G. I'm not sure.

Just thinking it's like street pass.
 
I don't think they'll ever change the display res in a revision, unless the API really abstracts te whole framebuffer away from the devs that would be hard to make compatible with existing games. And ultra high PPI for OLED is currently a bit hard to manufacture, but that will probably not be an issue forever.

Still, generally I don't see the point of PPI beyond ~200 for almost all purposes except reading lots of text. It's nice to have, but contrast, responsiveness and color are of much higher priority for me.
I actually meant making the screen smaller, it needs to remain the same resolution. They did it with the Go.
 
I honestly didn't know I posted so much in this thread. Though I have been trying to just answer questions people had and there have been quite a few questions asked.
 
How much higher dpi is it? Is it that noticeable? I have a 4s and have played with the Vita for a bit and even though the dpi may be the different and possibly higher brightness, the colors are what does it for me and OLED does that hands down. The gorilla glass helps with the IQ a bit but it's mainly for protector. IF GG was present in the Vita it would have cost more, people are complain at the price as it is already.

I tried the HMZ-T1, I liked the concept of it but I felt it a bit underwhelming :(

The DPI difference is noticeable but it's not a big deal since both are crisp. Color-wise, they are both vivid and bright. Their relative differences may only be apparent when you compare them side by side. For day-to-day use, I'd say they are both more than good enough for now.

As for HMZ-T1, it takes time to get the right settings/configs. If the lens are aligned, the 3D effect is eye-popping, but you also need the right content to showcase it.
 
I'm in that annoying position. I want it to sell well, so that it can build up a library that ensures that it would be a worthwhile purchase for me in the near future. I just can't justify contributing to its sales at this point though, I did the same with the PSP and imported one before it was out in the EU, and only ended up buying like 5 games for it.

Also, I'm sure I could easily google this, but can the PSV function as an e-book reader, preferably compatible with Kindle books. Can it play itunes audiobooks as well?
 
Damn, this thread is moving a mike per minute.

Picked up my 32GB card and official SCEA starter kit today. All I wanted out if the kit was the pouch, screen protector and cleaning cloth. My FEB is "shipping soon" from Amazon. Can't wait until tomorrow.

If anyone is interested in a 4GB memory card and official card case, let me know.
 
I tried a bunch of PSP games, mostly fighting games, and I think the Vita is amazing for how well it breathes life into old visuals like SFAlpha 3 and Guilty Gear: Accent Core +. The buttons are a little small, but the dpad is the best sony has ever made (wayyy better than dual shock1,2,3).

Somewhat interested in checking out Darkstalkers on Vita, but it would be nice if someone could post some impressions.
 
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