Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Field Report:

Yesterday my company had a convention and I met this new girl that started a couple weeks ago.

When I got there I was feeling pretty beast in my athletic fit Star Wars t-shirt I got from Target. As I was checking in I detected a proximity alert and I had a feeling she had been checking me out.

Later on I introduced myself while walking the floor. Then I found a booth that had an Xbox Kinect set up for people to play Dance Central. A crowd had gathered around watching people play and she was there. I moved into position like Ezio from Assassins Creed. Weaving in and out of the bodies to work my way to the front of the crowd. When the last person finished I stepped up to the plate never playing this game before in my life. I had to let all my fears go of embarrassing myself and I knew I had to show a positive energy. I danced to that stupid I wave my hair back and forth song and then all of a sudden the free style part came up. I pulled off a pretty cool dance and the crowd cheered for me. Later on in the evening she even made a comment about my dancing skills.

After dinner I met her at the after hours party and started chatting her up. They had corn hole stations set up so I invited her to join me. At first we were on the same team, but that put us on opposite ends so I had to eventually get another partner so we could play on the same end. When we started playing I made sure to escalate kino by giving her high fives and one armed hugs through out the games. The games were actually really close and provided lots of opportunities to tease her when she messed up.

I also made sure I moved around the room and mingled with other people to show off my social value. I was even doing kino on other girls as they wanted to get pictures and dance. By the end of the night I got her one on one so we could get to know each other and I found out she likes basketball. I used this to try and set up our first date.

There is a basketball game tomorrow night at the college she used to go so today I asked her if she wanted to go. She said she would LOVE to. I got her number so I could call/text her later when I got the tickets. I felt like Jordan in the 4th qtr. with 10 seconds left in the game. I knew I was going to score. Tomorrow night we're set up to out after work and get some food then head to the game. I'm going to go for more kino escalation and go for the kiss close.

TL DR: Met some girl at company convention and got a date with her tomorrow night. Feels good man.

i can't take this seriously with the terms 'field report' 'proximity alert' multiple 'kino' and only because of the others, '____ close' :/
 
yeah, im not hating at all on the style, just the terms used. its what put me off reading any PUA blogs/forums etc past The Game (entertaining book)
 
Anyone here ever hook up with someone during a summer semester at uni?

I might be taking some summer classes to catch up on all the stuff I missed while I was at Bob Jones Uni.
 
Still seeing that one chick I never did anything with. The one I never figured out how to talk to last semester. And it feels too late, but every time I see her, I regret it more and more. It's just eye contact - no smiles or anything, and we go past each other.

Should I attempt to contact her (still have her number)?

Or is it just something I should ignore...?
 
Still seeing that one chick I never did anything with. The one I never figured out how to talk to last semester. And it feels too late, but every time I see her, I regret it more and more. It's just eye contact - no smiles or anything, and we go past each other.

Should I attempt to contact her (still have her number)?

Or is it just something I should ignore...?

more backstory? or links to old posts or anything?

as a general rule of thumb in situations like this... what can it hurt? you no longer catch eyes in the hallway? go for it
 
i can't take this seriously with the terms 'field report' 'proximity alert' multiple 'kino' and only because of the others, '____ close' :/

yeah, im not hating at all on the style, just the terms used. its what put me off reading any PUA blogs/forums etc past The Game (entertaining book)

I wrote my post to be entertaining and a little sarcastic. I agree with you on the fact that reading PUA blog/ forums isn't the way to go, but I do believe in the basic fundamentals of PUA. It really helped me break out of being the guy who never made a move.
 
You mean to tell me that you never hooked up with some super-repressed chick at that nutjob place?
Nope. Which reminds me... a girl who sat beside me (she had to because it was assigned seating) in the freshman orientation class offered to hook me up with one of her single friends. I turned her down because just the thought of hooking up with some fundamentalist Christian girl unnerved me to no end.

Also, when I was still at BJU I was battling depression, intense social anxiety, and on top of all that a ton of school work. I was in no condition for a relationship during that time in my life.
 
To shorten a long story - I met a girl at an after-party thing (I was drunk and she was sober), and she ended up asking for my number, so I gave it to her. I went to text her once, and she seemed interested or whatever, but, damn my awkwardness, I couldn't think of anything meaningful to say. And I'm not even sure if I'm interested in this girl, but then again, I don't know her.

So I haven't texted her in a while, and now whenever we see each other on the street (what's the point of a big campus, really), we don't say anything or do anything past the initial noticing of each other. It's awkward as fuck and I feel terrible.

This was, for the record, last semester. What should/can I do?

Basically, it happened a while ago, but I'm still seeing her. I have *no* idea what to do, and I have no idea how awkward it would be to try and talk to her this late.

Bronzewolf suggested I ask questions and stuff from now on, but should I do anything about her...?
 
So guys! I met this girl about a month ago! We had a good chat, i think we connected, i took of with friends but got number! I texter her but she said she was already gone! Okay yeah sure, i texted her a couple of times afterwards but no response! No 3 weeks later she texts me "name of bar??" i was around so was like suuuree! We meet up, chat a bit, nice and easy. She leaves with her girlfriends, im like yoo wait i need to kis you, shes like mmm noo not now. Im like sure whatever, got home she adds me on FB.


Im drunk btw, dont know what to think!?
 
Had class with the girl who flaked on me. Did not say a single word and she left pretty quickly.

Shame, she was really one of the nice ones. Too bad they're all the same when it boils down to it. I dunno how I should feel, or if I should go talk to her.
 
Yep. It works. Smaller group, closer quarters.
Cool. Now I'll just cross my fingers and hope that my summer classes have:

-Girls who are single
-Girls who are not morbidly obese
-Girls who are not very religious
-Girls who are not politically conservative
-Girls who are not insane
-Girls who do not already have kids

But I live in south so... my odds of meeting a girl who meets my standards are kind of shitty...
 
Basically, it happened a while ago, but I'm still seeing her. I have *no* idea what to do, and I have no idea how awkward it would be to try and talk to her this late.

Bronzewolf suggested I ask questions and stuff from now on, but should I do anything about her...?

start smiling and saying hello, after you do that 1-2 times if it doesnt turn into conversation, then stop her by walking up to her and slowing down so she knows you want to chat. say something like 'hey vanessa! how ya been?" "blahblah" "awesome, well listen ive been meaning to ask you out for the past 3 months since we exchanged numbers but have been super busy, you free for drinks tonight or tomorrow night?

im sure theres guys here that would suggest better things to say, but theres an idea. key is not to make it look like you've been a pussy this entire time, but rather haven't approached her out of choice

Cool. Now I'll just cross my fingers and hope that my summer classes have:

-Girls who are single
-Girls who are not morbidly obese
-Girls who are not very religious
-Girls who are not politically conservative
-Girls who are not insane
-Girls who do not already have kids

But I live in south so... my odds of meeting a girl who meets my standards are kind of shitty...

dude you used the phrase hook up... im sure you'll be able to hook up with a hot politically conservative chick... for the sake of your dick man! hell, who cares if they have kids and are religious, too.
 
Cool. Now I'll just cross my fingers and hope that my summer classes have:

-Girls who are single
-Girls who are not morbidly obese
-Girls who are not very religious
-Girls who are not politically conservative
-Girls who are not insane
-Girls who do not already have kids

But I live in south so... my odds of meeting a girl who meets my standards are kind of shitty...

Never. Fucking. Again.

I can tolerate being slightly religious, but if they are in Chi Alpha or some ridiculous organization like that, nope.avi.
 
Good job, Spacebar. You're gettin' it innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. I admire you for setting your fears aside for a greater cause, I feel like that's the one thing holding MANY people back in life.
 
dude you used the phrase hook up... im sure you'll be able to hook up with a hot politically conservative chick... for the sake of your dick man! hell, who cares if they have kids and are religious, too.
*sigh* Fine...

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Also, because I don't want to get any of these loons preggers what's a good brand when it comes to condoms? >_>
 
Though I'll note that eye contact is more likely to seem creepy (i.e. unnatural) if it's accompanied by low-status signals.

Back when I was a student at university, I took an improv class. One of the most useful things I got out of it was a list of high-status and low-status characteristics, for use in creating characters for improv scenes. Turned out to be pretty helpful for real life, too. :P

I played around a lot with these things, just walking around campus. Some general rules are that mixed high- and low-status signals often come off as weird or creepy, that high-status signals mixed with neutral come off weakened, as you'd expect, and that getting into status one-upmanship invites conflict, especially if you're not quite selling it. Oh, and that this stuff works enormously better with strangers--friends and people you know can be damn resistant to attempted changes in status, and are likely to subconsciously fight back.

High-status characteristics are mostly about confidence and having a large personal space:
-feet in a broad stance, shoulders back
-no defensive body language
-high eye-level (i.e. looking towards other people's heads or beyond rather than at your feet)
-economy of motion
-comfortable making physical contact with people
-decisive, willing to make decisions for others
-and of course, making and holding eye contact

Low-status characteristics are mostly about seeming small and invisible, or harmless:
-feet close together, shoulders hunched
-crossed arms, crossed legs, touching your own face
-low eye-level
-fidgeting
-avoid initiating physical contact
-look to others for permission or instructions
-avoid holding eye contact

I don't think this is a complete list, but it's what comes to mind. The important take-away isn't that you must adopt all the high-status characteristics, but that you should avoid the low-status ones.

Though do experiment with high status, it's fun. I've found that it's much easier to move through crowds using high status--shoulders back, long, evenly-paced strides, looking past the people walking towards you. Like, people get out of your way. Good times.

I do a couple of the high-status things and a couple of the low-status things. Touching my face and fidgeting are two of my low-status quirks, never have had a problem with physical or eye contact though.

What are some examples of defensive body language though?
 
I don't know man... that hasn't been my experience.

Then again, I'm not very charming and I'm terrible at seducing women.

You won't be with that attitude
Charming is subjective and you dont have to 'seduce' women
You dont have to be that guy with the oiled chest and open shirt with the rose in his mouth
 
You won't be with that attitude
Charming is subjective and you dont have to 'seduce' women
You dont have to be that guy with the oiled chest and open shirt with the rose in his mouth
Well, I'm going to the gym tomorrow because I've got a bit of a belly that I need to lose. No one wants a chubby blad guy.
 
If you're cheap watch a video of someone doing a video of p90x
All the exercise with none of the copyright violations!

Came to suggest that. If that fails just do some running and hit up crossfit
I guess I'll rely on these alternatives for now.


Doesn't your school have a gym or something? Just run for 20 min everyday.
It does but I would have to drive 30 minutes to get there.

I'll just stick with the gym that is a minute away from my house.
 
I guess I'll rely on these alternatives for now.



It does but I would have to drive 30 minutes to get there.

I'll just stick with the gym that is a minute away from my house.

If you don't like the work out of the day for CrossFit then you can sort of tailor it to your liking. The main idea is that you're constantly doing something for a shorter period of time, rather than waste 90 minutes at the gym but only lift or work out for 30-45.
 
If you don't like the work out of the day for CrossFit then you can sort of tailor it to your liking. The main idea is that you're constantly doing something for a shorter period of time, rather than waste 90 minutes at the gym but only lift or work out for 30-45.
I don't think I need to go too crazy with the workouts so long as I do some sort of physical activity 3 times a week. Sitting on my ass in front of a computer working on design projects and school papers all day isn't helping my physique.

And I really don't know how "hopeless" I am when it comes to my physical appearance. People say I look fine but I guess I'm not "fine" enough for me to attract to opposite sex.
 
I don't think I need to go too crazy with the workouts so long as I do some sort of physical activity 3 times a week. Sitting on my ass in front of a computer working on design projects and school papers all day isn't helping my physique.

And I really don't know how "hopeless" I am when it comes to my physical appearance. People say I look fine but I guess not I'm not "fine" enough for me to attract to opposite sex.

99.9% of that is about attitude. I know morbidly obese dude's that pick up girls b/c they're confident. You don't even need to be confident, but when talking to a girl fake it. That counts far more than being in good shape or anything like that.
 
I don't think I need to go too crazy with the workouts so long as I do some sort of physical activity 3 times a week. Sitting on my ass in front of a computer working on design projects and school papers all day isn't helping my physique.

And I really don't know how "hopeless" I am when it comes to my physical appearance. People say I look fine but I guess not I'm not "fine" enough for me to attract to opposite sex.

I ran 3 times a week
Do that at first to build up stamina, but you'll see MUCH better results once you take it to mon-fri or every day
And by much better I mean double the weight loss if you do mon-sat instead of 3 times a week
 
"I'm not mean. I just don't care."
Hahahah. I know you got it in the right way. You are smart like that. ;)

Oh and to you lads, some useful hints of what not to mention when talking to a girl you are attracted to

1. Don't mention your ex-girlfriends (please, at least not five different ones... if I counted right, it might have been six).

2. Don't talk about a race game (especially when she already mentioned that she isn't into race games in general).

3. Don't open up that when you touched some girl's ass, you felt like you were touching the face of God (don't, even if that would be true).

4. And if you end up doing all of the above, don't say, it is cause you had a dream last night of your previous girlfriend (who actually turned to a homosexual, while dating you).

And yes, I seriously had a conversation with a lad and it seriously did involve all of the information above.

All in all I still need to say that he was very adorable and polite in general. I also giggled nearly all the time, so it was rather entertaining to listen.

I also complimented him with awesome praises like "Don't worry, you are quite ok". I am sure I made his day.

It seems even the best of us can have bad days.

But ok, now to bed, it is over 9.30 am.
 
Hahahah. I know you got it in the right way. You are smart like that. ;)

Oh and to you lads, some useful hints of what not to mention when talking to a girl you are attracted to

1. Don't mention your ex-girlfriends (please, at least not five different ones... if I counted right, it might have been six).

2. Don't talk about a race game (especially when she already mentioned that she isn't into race games in general).

3. Don't open up that when you touched some girl's ass, you felt like you were touching the face of God (don't, even if that would be true).

4. And if you end up doing all of the above, don't say, it is cause you had a dream last night of your previous girlfriend (who actually turned to a homosexual, while dating you).

And yes, I seriously had a conversation with a lad and it seriously did involve all of the information above.

All in all I still need to say that he was very adorable and polite in general. I also giggled nearly all the time, so it was rather entertaining to listen.

I also complimented him with awesome praises like "Don't worry, you are quite ok". I am sure I made his day.

It seems even the best of us can have bad days.

But ok, now to bed, it is over 9.30 am.

"Race game" isn't a term I'm familiar with. Can you explain?
 
Hahahah. I know you got it in the right way. You are smart like that. ;)

Oh and to you lads, some useful hints of what not to mention when talking to a girl you are attracted to

1. Don't mention your ex-girlfriends (please, at least not five different ones... if I counted right, it might have been six).

2. Don't talk about a race game (especially when she already mentioned that she isn't into race games in general).

3. Don't open up that when you touched some girl's ass, you felt like you were touching the face of God (don't, even if that would be true).

4. And if you end up doing all of the above, don't say, it is cause you had a dream last night of your previous girlfriend (who actually turned to a homosexual, while dating you).

And yes, I seriously had a conversation with a lad and it seriously did involve all of the information above.

All in all I still need to say that he was very adorable and polite in general. I also giggled nearly all the time, so it was rather entertaining to listen.

I also complimented him with awesome praises like "Don't worry, you are quite ok". I am sure I made his day.

It seems even the best of us can have bad days.

But ok, now to bed, it is over 9.30 am.
So are you a girl or a guy
 
99.9% of that is about attitude. I know morbidly obese dude's that pick up girls b/c they're confident. You don't even need to be confident, but when talking to a girl fake it. That counts far more than being in good shape or anything like that.

I can vouch for this. I'm not morbidly obese, but I'm pretty damn large. Girls don't seem to care when I'm talking to them though.
 
So i came across the backup of texts from last year and started reading the texts from a girl i dated last spring. That was a really fun casual relationship... Really wish i knew what caused her to just fall off the face of the earth.

In regards to the Saturday date, plans set up, she seems totally psyched, there's a bar next to the restaurant we're going to, so we'll do dinner, if things go well we'll move on to the bar, and work our way from there. Good stuff.
 
Hahahah. I know you got it in the right way. You are smart like that. ;)

Oh and to you lads, some useful hints of what not to mention when talking to a girl you are attracted to

1. Don't mention your ex-girlfriends (please, at least not five different ones... if I counted right, it might have been six).

2. Don't talk about a race game (especially when she already mentioned that she isn't into race games in general).

3. Don't open up that when you touched some girl's ass, you felt like you were touching the face of God (don't, even if that would be true).

4. And if you end up doing all of the above, don't say, it is cause you had a dream last night of your previous girlfriend (who actually turned to a homosexual, while dating you).

And yes, I seriously had a conversation with a lad and it seriously did involve all of the information above.

All in all I still need to say that he was very adorable and polite in general. I also giggled nearly all the time, so it was rather entertaining to listen.

I also complimented him with awesome praises like "Don't worry, you are quite ok". I am sure I made his day.

It seems even the best of us can have bad days.

But ok, now to bed, it is over 9.30 am.

when you refuse the 2nd date that guy is gonna go on some other forum complaining how girls make no sense when they compliment you and seem to laugh and enjoy themselves the entire first date but dont want a second.

lol
 
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